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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206180]This is what Finlay wrote at the time on Twitter:

Scherff got cheap shotted too[/quote]

Then I don't like the lack of reaction by the team. You never want to praise brawls in sport, but man if he got hit while on the ground is whining at the official really all you gonna do for your teammate?

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206182]Then I don't like the lack of reaction by the team. You never want to praise brawls in sport, but man if he got hit while on the ground is whining at the official really all you gonna do for your teammate?[/quote]

Put it this way, Finlay saw that, Keim saw Reed pissed off yelling at the Falcons bench and Moses got a PF penalty. Something dirty must have happened.

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Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game [U][I]I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball.[/I][/U] Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

[B]Geron Christian C+[/B] (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

[B]Ty Nsekhe A-[/B]

[B]Tony Bergstrom C-[/B] (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206188]Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game [U][I]I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball.[/I][/U] Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

[B]Geron Christian C+[/B] (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

[B]Ty Nsekhe A-[/B]

[B]Tony Bergstrom C-[/B] (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B[/quote]

I agree...I don't think all is lost. Im encouraged Mo Harris and A Smith seemed to make a connection on the field. While we need to continue to invest on a Guard and interior Oline depth....We need to find playmakers at WR and RB. This WR core isn't cutting it at all. Cooley said this at the beginning of the year as well. At RB, AP is a good find...Is he resign able? CT is always fucking hurt. Guice is coming off knee surgery....We need to add more pieces.

Nsekhe played great...the Rook played fine. Bergstrom sucked period.

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i hope and expect that this game will light a fire under these guys. the team showed some fire calling out the refs and alex bounced up smiling after a huge hit. this could be just what we needed. if not for some momentum stopping drops and bad calls this game could have turned out much different. teams need momentum. we had ours taken away at ever turn. i still have faith!

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This game will be very close....if we win it'll be by a field goal or perhaps less..

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206188]Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game [U][I]I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball.[/I][/U] Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

[B]Geron Christian C+[/B] (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

[B]Ty Nsekhe A-[/B]

[B]Tony Bergstrom C-[/B] (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B[/quote]

I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1206259]I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.[/quote]

Good point.

The way I see it:

-The pick was a good throw, just a great play by the 2 DBs. Takes away potential points but doesn't significantly downgrade anybody.

-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.

-The run game didn't get going because of a lot of missed assignments by an OL line up that had never practiced like that together, so maybe he didn't downgrade individual grades for it.

-I think he's going to be wayyy more harsh on the Defense. [I][U](EDIT: Just started listening to the Defensive Film Breakdown, he opened by saying he's not even sure he's going to say the grades... a lot of Ds, best one is a B to Matt Ioannidis)[/U][/I]

-He doesn't give Fs, so he only gives a D when the guy played atrociously bad.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1206259]I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.[/QUOTE]



Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1206259]I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.[/quote]

He's grading individual performance. One can play well independently of the overall team performance.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1206271]Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.[/QUOTE]He can be wrong but what I like is that he always gives details and examples of why he gave the grade. I honestly am way more interested in the explanations than the grades. I just posted them to highlight that we might not be as doomed as we think as far as the OL is concerned.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1206259]I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.[/quote]

That was my thought, since C is an average grade on an official grading scale the Redskin offense had a 2.6 GPA which is above average and equaled 14 points. So that would imply the average NFL team scores 10 points a game.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206288]That was my thought, since C is an average grade on an official grading scale the Redskin offense had a 2.6 GPA which is above average and equaled 14 points. So that would imply the average NFL team scores 10 points a game.[/quote]

He must have graded them on a curve because our offense sucked nearly as bad as our defense did last week. Graded as a unit, the running game was an F - a complete failure. We were so bad as a team, that game should just be forgotten.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1206291]He must have graded them on a curve because our offense sucked nearly as bad as our defense did last week. Graded as a unit, the running game was an F - a complete failure. We were so bad as a team, that game should just be forgotten.[/quote]

Like I previously posted in other threads, if the running game stops, then what?
Hopefully (been waiting) Smith gets of his funk and finds his receivers, having a healthy Harris helps.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206260]
-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.
[/quote]

A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206299]A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.[/quote]

Cooley plays the nice guy, Doc sucked Sunday and he has all yr. He never gets separation and he drops passes.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206299]A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.[/quote]

Does scoring a TD on a tough catch count? I guess not.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206299]A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. [B]So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday[/B]. That makes no sense.[/quote]

This is were his grades are misleading. In his system, C+ is not above average, I'd say it's slightly below: he has a % grading scale (that he explained in his first podcast episode) where 86% and above is an A, 85% to 76% is B, 75% to 66% is C, 65% to 51% is D, 50% and below is an F.

You expect your average WR to do his job/have a positive impact on more than 70% of the plays, don't you?

And again, I really don't think grades are the best part of his Film Breakdowns, [B]the explanations are[/B]. Because he did say Doctson is not getting any separation and he went into details on why his drops were ugly and 100% on him.
So yeah, maybe a C is being too nice, but if you listen to the film breakdown, he's not trying to make you believe Doctson had a solid game.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206307]This is were his grades are misleading. In his system, C+ is not above average, I'd say it's slightly below: he has a % grading scale (that he explained in his first podcast episode) where 86% and above is an A, 85% to 76% is B, 75% to 66% is C, 65% to 51% is D, 50% and below is an F.

You expect your average WR to do his job/have a positive impact on more than 70% of the plays, don't you?

And again, I really don't think grades are the best part of his Film Breakdowns, [B]the explanations are[/B]. Because he did say Doctson is not getting any separation and he went into details on why his drops were ugly and 100% on him.
So yeah, maybe a C is being too nice, but if you listen to the film breakdown, he's not trying to make you believe Doctson had a solid game.[/quote]

Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206313]Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.[/quote]

Man on some aspects the US are really hard to wrap your mind around... Even the smallest village lost in the middle of nowhere in France has access to unlimited Wifi for 40€ per month max... Granted the territory is much much wider but it's always surprising to me.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206313]Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.[/quote]


[quote=FrenchSkin;1206316]Man on some aspects the US are really hard to wrap your mind around... Even the smallest village lost in the middle of nowhere in France has access to unlimited Wifi for 40€ per month max... Granted the territory is much much wider but it's always surprising to me.[/quote]

It just really depends where you are at in the states. I am not that far out in the woods. I am only 10 miles away from Interstate 95 which runs the whole east coast of the USA and into Canada. The general area I live in is very backward, the bank I use and their website reminds me of the infant years of the internet, a lot of businesses here don't have websites, and advertise in the phone book like it was 30 years ago. I have customers in other states further off the beaten path than I am yet they have WIFI, broadband internet, piped in natural gas and water. I have none of those things.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206321]It just really depends where you are at in the states. I am not that far out in the woods. I am only 10 miles away from Interstate 95 which runs the whole east coast of the USA and into Canada. The general area I live in is very backward, the bank I use and their website reminds me of the infant years of the internet, a lot of businesses here don't have websites, and advertise in the phone book like it was 30 years ago. I have customers in other states further off the beaten path than I am yet they have WIFI, broadband internet, piped in natural gas and water. I have none of those things.[/quote]

Growing up in an affluent valley-suburbia of Southern California, it's hard for me to even imagine places like this. You don't have gas and water lines?? Even as I've traveled the country and seen some really run-down areas they still had these provided.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206321]It just really depends where you are at in the states. I am not that far out in the woods. I am only 10 miles away from Interstate 95 which runs the whole east coast of the USA and into Canada. The general area I live in is very backward, the bank I use and their website reminds me of the infant years of the internet, a lot of businesses here don't have websites, and advertise in the phone book like it was 30 years ago. I have customers in other states further off the beaten path than I am yet they have WIFI, broadband internet, piped in natural gas and water. I have none of those things.[/quote]


[quote=sevier2;1206323]Growing up in an affluent valley-suburbia of Southern California, it's hard for me to even imagine places like this. You don't have gas and water lines?? Even as I've traveled the country and seen some really run-down areas they still had these provided.[/quote]

I lived in Southern California for 50 years! I wanted to live somewhere else for quite awhile, any time I vacationed in another state I did not want to go home. I researched satellite internet and the cell service for this area before moving, two things, both those services have gotten worse since I arrived here and they were worse than expected to begin with. The electric company here is a joke also, very rough on electronics, I must blow up a microwave oven every year.

There are a lot of large farms with big fancy houses including places that breed expensive race horses in this county, yet the infrastructure is a joke.
I have an aunt that lives in a nice house on the beach in Tijuana Mexico, I am sure you are aware of that city, she has better internet and utilities than I have.

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Are we having a Socal reunion?

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[quote=jamf;1206331]Are we having a Socal reunion?[/quote]

Headquartered at Pacers.

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Any of you San Diego guys been to the Tijuana lately? I used to spend weekends down at the sportsbooks there during football season when I lived in San Clemente in the 90's.
I heard a lot of the once bustling areas down there are now boarded up and abandoned.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206341]Any of you San Diego guys been to the Tijuana lately? I used to spend weekends down at the sportsbooks there during football season when I lived in San Clemente in the 90's.
I heard a lot of the once bustling areas down there are now boarded up and abandoned.[/quote]

Nope, haven't been down there in years. Things in TJ are no good right now. Murders just about every day it seems. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze in my opinion. Sucks because i had good times down there.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1206341]Any of you San Diego guys been to the Tijuana lately? I used to spend weekends down at the sportsbooks there during football season when I lived in San Clemente in the 90's.
I heard a lot of the once bustling areas down there are now boarded up and abandoned.[/quote]

Yeah, TJ is a no-go for me nowadays. Still some cool spots and isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just such a hassle getting through the check and back in. At that point the cons sort of out weight the pros, so i just stay local.

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[quote=sevier2;1206343]Yeah, TJ is a no-go for me nowadays. Still some cool spots and isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just such a hassle getting through the check and back in. At that point the cons sort of out weight the pros, so i just stay local.[/quote]

New Pedestrian West Entrance and Global Entry make it easy to cross.
Never have to wait more than a few minutes.

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[quote=sevier2;1206343]Yeah, TJ is a no-go for me nowadays. Still some cool spots and isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just such a hassle getting through the check and back in. At that point the cons sort of out weight the pros, so i just stay local.[/quote]

Oh the memories. Back when I went you didn't need a passport. I had went by myself to run bets for myself and friends. I was talking to some guys behind me in line at the USA enterance. I saw a dog wondering around not realizing it was a drug sniffer. The dog alerted on both guys behind me, since I was talking to them we all got put in a room and interrogated. Those guys were scared to death, I was pissed off because I did nothing wrong. I also didn't appreciate being called a liar when I said those guys were strangers to me. The border patrol agent must have been new and dumb as rocks as to him our evidence of being together was we all had Pueblo Amigo betting tickets. At the time all the betting places from TJ to Rosarito sold betting tickets with that printed on them. The guys had no drugs on them, they probably had just smoked a joint recently. The two guys were let go and I was detained even though I neither smelled of drugs or had any on me. They told me as soon as I apologized for my mouthiness they would let me go, I refused. I told them to charge me with something or let me go. I was finally cut lose after 4 hours. I never went back.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1206331]Are we having a Socal reunion?[/QUOTE]Easier to bond over things like that than one the worst performances of your favorite team in a while...

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There you go: Cooley gave an overall D/Not Good Enough grade to the Defense on this one.
Best grade is a B to Ioannidis, a LOT of Ds, some C (to Norman and Payne IIRC).

As I thought, Mason Foster and Zach Brown had their worst game of the season, by far.

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Would be impossible for us all to meet at one time, but it would be cool to pick a game to go to or some city to even just watch in a bar, for as many of us that could make it to all get together. Probably a pipedream.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1206359]Would be impossible for us all to meet at one time, [B]but it would be cool to pick a game to go[/B] to or some city to even just watch in a bar, for as many of us that could make it to all get together. Probably a pipedream.[/quote]

Yeeeah let's pick the week 14 Giants @ Skins game I'm crossing the pond to go to!!!!

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1206302]Does scoring a TD on a tough catch count? I guess not.[/QUOTE]



Not when you average one every three years. No.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206361]Yeeeah let's pick the week 14 Giants @ Skins game I'm crossing the pond to go to!!!![/quote]

I was thinking more like next season or later. Already used my vacation money this year lol.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1206363]I was thinking more like next season or later. Already used my vacation money this year lol.[/QUOTE]Roooooo C'mon MAN ! OK for next season but you might have to pay for my plane tickets ^^

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[quote=punch it in;1206362]Not when you average one every three years. No.[/quote]

He had 6 last year, remember that?

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1206366]He had 6 last year, remember that?[/QUOTE]



You said tough catches.

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[quote=punch it in;1206368]You said tough catches.[/quote]

All I know is he’s playing better the last couple of weeks.