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[quote=NC_Skins;1212622]It could be worse. We could be stuck with Cousins 90mil guaranteed contract.[/quote]

Yeah after seeing him play this year against good teams (0-5) I'm not really missing Kirk anymore. That guy just can't win the big games

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[quote=Meks;1212590]As for last night? Look no further than that absolute JOKE of a ruling on the friggin opening kickoff, man. No clear recovery? Lolllllll riiiigghhhhtttt just 5 eagles players one of which emerges with the fucking ball. It's laughable man and your blue tinted glasses fog more than your vision, it's your judgement of fair competition as well.[/quote]

Wow. Really!?!?!
You are saying the first 6 seconds of the game decided the outcome? What about the remaining 59 minutes and 54 seconds? That missed call is what decided the game right then and there?

If you are so convinced that the league is 'rigged against' the Redskins, why do you even watch? It is obviously rigged by your account. Redskins will never 'be allowed' to compete for a championship? Right?

So why watch? Why engage on this forum? Why not just stick to Madden where the obvious conspiracy against the Redskins cannot reach?

Did you watch Vikes@Seahawks last night? What about that obvious no call on Wagners blocked field goal? Clearly there is a conspiracy for such an obvious no call. Right?

All you have brought forward is conjecture. Still no proof.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1212645]Wow. Really!?!?!
You are saying the first 6 seconds of the game decided the outcome? What about the remaining 59 minutes and 54 seconds? That missed call is what decided the game right then and there?

If you are so convinced that the league is 'rigged against' the Redskins, why do you even watch? It is obviously rigged by your account. Redskins will never 'be allowed' to compete for a championship? Right?

So why watch? Why engage on this forum? Why not just stick to Madden where the obvious conspiracy against the Redskins cannot reach?

Did you watch Vikes@Seahawks last night? What about that obvious no call on Wagners blocked field goal? Clearly there is a conspiracy for such an obvious no call. Right?

All you have brought forward is conjecture. Still no proof.[/quote]

While I prefer you just go away, I think the point isn't that it's rigged against the Redskins, as much as the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings. I think the centralized review and call procedures have added to that appearance, and any time one team starts getting clear non-calls/favorable calls the questions are going to be asked.

Like has been pointed out, starting with the Boys win over the Skins there have been several non-called egregious helmet to helmet hits, and the "no clear recovery" ruling was a joke.

A similar one in the Seattle game is as you mentioned the picked up flag against Seattle for jumping over the line. Basically the point being if you want to know who the NFL wants in the playoffs from a ratings perspective, look at how the egregious calls have gone, and I am betting you will see a trend.

-written with tinfoil hat on.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1212656]While I prefer you just go away, I think the point isn't that it's rigged against the Redskins, as much as the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings. I think the centralized review and call procedures have added to that appearance, and any time one team starts getting clear non-calls/favorable calls the questions are going to be asked.

Like has been pointed out, starting with the Boys win over the Skins there have been several non-called egregious helmet to helmet hits, and the "no clear recovery" ruling was a joke.

A similar one in the Seattle game is as you mentioned the picked up flag against Seattle for jumping over the line. Basically the point being if you want to know who the NFL wants in the playoffs from a ratings perspective, look at how the egregious calls have gone, and I am betting you will see a trend.

-written with tinfoil hat on.[/quote]


Did the NFL want a Colt Mccoy led Redskins team with no "Star" appeal at all on offense and barely any on defense in the playoffs??? Yeah right lol, don't tell me ratings don't influence calls. Dallas is a MEDIA DARLING and also "Americas Team" They get better calls than anyone, its clear as day and only Cowboys fans will say otherwise.

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Sorry calls aren't rigged. This conversation is dumb.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212657]Did the NFL want a Colt Mccoy led Redskins team with no "Star" appeal at all on offense and barely any on defense in the playoffs??? Yeah right lol, don't tell me ratings don't influence calls. Dallas is a MEDIA DARLING and also "Americas Team" They get better calls than anyone, its clear as day and only Cowboys fans will say otherwise.[/quote]

-still with tinfoil hat.

So the NFL has pretty much set the NFC line up now. 1-5 are likely set, and I believe you will see calls even out so that the nfl can make the claim that every team had egregious calls. Might see the Eagles get some calls their way to get them in at the 6th seed, good for business to have the SB champs in.

And the only real drama in the AFC looks like the Ravens/Steelers and the NFL has had it's share of questionable calls to keep that division close.

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[quote=MTK;1212662]Sorry calls aren't rigged. This conversation is dumb.[/quote]

I think the point of the conversation is that it's a lot more questionable this year, with the new york booth influencing so many calls, and so many clearly bad calls being called out by teams/players/on air previous refs . I know it's very likely not rigged, but it's a lot more shady than in the past.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1212656] the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings. [/quote]

Think. Really think about what is said here. Do you understand or grasp the depth or complexity of what you are saying? Is there like a secret underground meeting in the off-season that the NFL evaluates fan revenue, TV ratings and attendance and then tells all officials which teams to 'look the other way' on? Because that sounds precisely what you are saying.

Do you comprehend the sheer number of people that would have to be involved to bring any validity to this speculation? Not one 'leaked email'. Not one TMZ exclusive?

Theres a handful here that speculate that the officials 'favor' Dallas. But in each game you guys mention as an example, Dallas is assessed MORE penalties and penalty yards in each of those games. That does make since and only add to contradict your claims.

Again I ask the question. If the winners are 'predetermined by the league in advance of the game'. Why do you watch?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1212665]I think the point of the conversation is that it's a lot more questionable this year, with the new york booth influencing so many calls, and so many clearly bad calls being called out by teams/players/on air previous refs . I know it's very likely not rigged, but it's a lot more shady than in the past.[/quote]

People have short memories, every year is always "the worst".

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Back to last nights game, The Seahawks are starting to look pretty damn scary on Defense again. It looks like a lock they will be playing Dallas in RD1. That will be a good defensive battle.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1212669]Think. Really think about what is said here. Do you understand or grasp the depth or complexity of what you are saying? Is there like a secret underground meeting in the off-season that the NFL evaluates fan revenue, TV ratings and attendance and then tells all officials which teams to 'look the other way' on? Because that sounds precisely what you are saying.

Do you comprehend the sheer number of people that would have to be involved to bring any validity to this speculation? Not one 'leaked email'. Not one TMZ exclusive?

Theres a handful here that speculate that the officials 'favor' Dallas. But in each game you guys mention as an example, Dallas is assessed MORE penalties and penalty yards in each of those games. That does make since and only add to contradict your claims.

Again I ask the question. If the winners are 'predetermined by the league in advance of the game'. Why do you watch?[/quote]
It's really not as complex as you are saying, because it's not predetermined per se but having a few well timed calls/no calls. And since the people in the booth in new york are now centralized the possibility is more realistic.

That said, I noted all these things with my tinfoil hat on, because it's not really likely but at this time of year with a season in shambles and a cowboys fan coming on here spewing cowboys propaganda, its as good a yarn as any.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1212669]Think. Really think about what is said here. Do you understand or grasp the depth or complexity of what you are saying? Is there like a secret underground meeting in the off-season that the NFL evaluates fan revenue, TV ratings and attendance and then tells all officials which teams to 'look the other way' on? Because that sounds precisely what you are saying.

Do you comprehend the sheer number of people that would have to be involved to bring any validity to this speculation? Not one 'leaked email'. Not one TMZ exclusive?

Theres a handful here that speculate that the officials 'favor' Dallas. But in each game you guys mention as an example, Dallas is assessed MORE penalties and penalty yards in each of those games. That does make since and only add to contradict your claims.

Again I ask the question. If the winners are 'predetermined by the league in advance of the game'. Why do you watch?[/quote]

I don't think the NFL is rigged but to sit here and vehemently disagree with the slightest CHANCE that it might be seems a bit asinine. Especially when we all know, and have seen, how corrupt the NFL as an organization can be at times.

We've seen the NBA with Tim Donaghy and MLB with Pete Rose get manipulated at some level. To think the NFL is beyond this type of meddling is close-minded.

Again, NOT saying it's true. But it definitely is a possibility.

With all that being said, and as hard as it is to admit, the Cowboys are Red-Hot right now. I don't think NFL officiating has anything to do with their wins, they're simply playing good football.

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Viks fire John DeFilippo

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212675]Back to last nights game, The Seahawks are starting to look pretty damn scary on Defense again. It looks like a lock they will be playing Dallas in RD1. That will be a good defensive battle.[/quote]

Im impressed with P. Carroll man. I thought with the team sort of breaking up over the past couple years they'd be in a worse situation. He's got these YOUNG guys playing hard and winning games.

Of course it doesn't hurt to have Russell Wilson as your QB1 either.

Just another good organization with solid leadership finding ways to win. I'm jealous.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212697]Viks fire John DeFilippo[/quote]

At least one team is upset enough about the direction of its franchise to make a statement.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212697]Viks fire John DeFilippo[/quote]

whoa...Im a little surprised, but I think DeFlippo has disappointed a bit. gotta think he's going back to the Eagles in some capacity because Wentz has looked more like a basic bitch this year.

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I have a hard time believing that any games are rigged. The nonsense about not having star power for a reason is equally silly. By that logic Jacksonville would've never sniffed the AFC championship game. They have little star power. Fournette? Ramsey? They would not bring nearly as much viewing interest to the table as a Steelers Patriots game. I just think that NFL officiating is that bad. Plus they have absolutely no accountability. Players, coaches have to do post games and answer for their decisions. Refs should be required to do the same.

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Cousins got OC fired. What a dick.

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[quote=Chico23231;1212700]whoa...Im a little surprised, but I think DeFlippo has disappointed a bit. gotta think he's going back to the Eagles in some capacity because Wentz has looked more like a basic bitch this year.[/quote]

Coming off a knee , Next yr he will be back to top 10 level IMO

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1212703]Cousins got OC fired. What a dick.[/quote]

no it doesn't work like that. Big Zim has done this before with Norv. I think it was too quick of a trigger finger myself.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212707]Coming off a knee , Next yr he will be back to top 10 level IMO[/quote]

You testing out this excuse early?

:Smoker:

Expect to some to be saying the same thing around this time next year...

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[quote=Chico23231;1212708]no it doesn't work like that. Big Zim has done this before with Norv. I think it was too quick of a trigger finger myself.[/quote]

Yeah, I know. Was more tongue in cheek. Apparently with Zinmer you either become a HC or get shitcanned.

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Gotta wonder if Gruden could end up in Minnesota next year as OC

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1212708]no it doesn't work like that. Big Zim has done this before with Norv. I think it was too quick of a trigger finger myself.[/QUOTE]Reading through Twitter feeds, Zim was wanting to run the ball more.

Defillipo said they couldn't.

HC wins.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1212715]Reading through Twitter feeds, Zim was wanting to run the ball more.

Defillipo said they couldn't.

HC wins.

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What been Minny biggest problem this year? The Oline begin the season down 3 starters....one has come back, the other 2 went to IR. They've had problem there all year long

It has affected them running the ball.

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i didn't watch last night i was busy. And in anther thread sand I answered your question about why i watch the skins i dont feel like repeating that. And yes. the first 6 seconds of the game could have played a part in determining the outcome. Dallas goes down 7-0 that early it could set a tone, it could turn out completely different. They blew a HORRID fucking call on a review that gave your team an advantage and its been a theme for weeks now. Period. No proof my ass. Bye Felicia.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1212701]I have a hard time believing that any games are rigged. The nonsense about not having star power for a reason is equally silly. By that logic Jacksonville would've never sniffed the AFC championship game. They have little star power. Fournette? Ramsey? They would not bring nearly as much viewing interest to the table as a Steelers Patriots game. I just think that NFL officiating is that bad. Plus they have absolutely no accountability. Players, coaches have to do post games and answer for their decisions. Refs should be required to do the same.[/quote]

no one is saying it is consistently and overall rigged. no one is talking about the afc at all in fact. we've been specifically talking about the NFCE and the past 5 weeks about specifically in this thread, and others, currently.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212697]Viks fire John DeFilippo[/quote]

I guess I wasn’t the only that didn’t think much of him, post #118.

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[quote=Meks;1212724]i didn't watch last night i was busy. And in anther thread sand I answered your question about why i watch the skins i dont feel like repeating that. And yes. the first 6 seconds of the game [B]could have[/B] played a part in determining the outcome. Dallas goes down 7-0 that early it [B]could[/B] set a tone, it [B]could[/B] turn out completely different. They blew a HORRID fucking call on a review that gave your team an advantage and its been a theme for weeks now. Period. No proof my ass. Bye Felicia.[/quote]

I count 4 instances of 'could' in your statement. 'Could' is conjecture, speculation or assumption. In other words a guess. Which is far from proof.

Look man, why don't we just agree to disagree on this one. I do not believe your theory. I do respect your opinion on this. But I just cannot buy into it. Even if the roles were reversed.