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[quote=SolidSnake84;1214422]DJ Swearinger was called into Jay's office this morning and was informed that the Redskins were releasing him.

Good riddance. His public belly aching couldn't continue, and it wouldn't have been allowed on any other NFL squad.

This is a move that I am proud of Jay for making. I think it was a long time coming.[/quote]

He is a pro bowl player. Just another stupid move. Should have been put on the inactive list, with conduct detrimental to the team. And let the new coach and GM decide what to do with him. Unless, they fire the coach and GM and get me a new quarterback, I am done with the Redskins. They have disgraced themselves and made a fool of me enough. Lets cut DJ not accepting being a loser and let take all the gutless women beaters, that other teams don't want, come here. Why haven't these idiots signed Kareem hunt yet? Oh yeah, add Doug Williams to the top of the list.

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This is all about perception...... yes BA, JG and GM need to be gone, I don't see many disagreeing with that sentiment, but if you fire a coordinator (let alone the HC or GM) after a player complains openly about the schemes they are running then the perception among the players and outsiders is that the owner lets the players decide what schemes to run and which coaches get hired/fired..... what coach /GM candidate in his right mind would want to come with in a million miles of here under those circumstances, if they did they would be compelled as their first act to get rid of anybody airing team issues in public to set the standard...... there is no doubt that DJ is one of the top 5 talents on our defence, but he is just too stupid(as are the front office) to realise there is only one game left and to deal with it in the off season...... just get rid of the lot of them

They aren't going to be serious contenders anytime soon so they are going to have to tear it down before they can move forward and build a well structured perennial contender

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;1214580]He is a pro bowl player. Just another stupid move. Should have been put on the inactive list, with conduct detrimental to the team. And let the new coach and GM decide what to do with him. Unless, they fire the coach and GM and get me a new quarterback, I am done with the Redskins. They have disgraced themselves and made a fool of me enough. Lets cut DJ not accepting being a loser and let take all the gutless women beaters, that other teams don't want, come here. Why haven't these idiots signed Kareem hunt yet? Oh yeah, add Doug Williams to the top of the list.[/QUOTE]



Exactly! Don’t let this joke of a coaching staff and front office make decisions on the good talent we have! Let the future staff decide!


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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1214581]This is all about perception...... yes BA, JG and GM need to be gone, I don't see many disagreeing with that sentiment, but if you fire a coordinator (let alone the HC or GM) after a player complains openly about the schemes they are running then the perception among the players and outsiders is that the owner lets the players decide what schemes to run and which coaches get hired/fired..... what coach /GM candidate in his right mind would want to come with in a million miles of here under those circumstances, if they did they would be compelled as their first act to get rid of anybody airing team issues in public to set the standard...... there is no doubt that DJ is one of the top 5 talents on our defence, but he is just too stupid(as are the front office) to realise there is only one game left and to deal with it in the off season...... just get rid of the lot of them



They aren't going to be serious contenders anytime soon so they are going to have to tear it down before they can move forward and build a well structured perennial contender[/QUOTE]



This team has been “rebuilding” since 92...literally, no joke


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214583]Exactly! Don’t let this joke of a coaching staff and front office make decisions on the good talent we have! Let the future staff decide!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]What would you do when he criticized the next coach in the media?

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214585]This team has been “rebuilding” since 92...literally, no joke


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Sad but true..... and the rebuilding goes on...

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214587]What would you do when he criticized the next coach in the media?

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That depends on a lot of things. What does the next coaching staff play calling look like? What’s our success and win/loss? Are other starters complaining of the SAME things? Do they have a good reputation for making GOOD FOOTBALL decisions. This staff fails on all those

DJ (along with 4-5 other starters) have voiced their concerns over the SAME things. DJ is speaking honestly to the lazy ass practices, joking, and incompetence of our coaching staff.

Cutting him solves nothing and is like a regime killing protesters to keep dissent quiet. Just helps the coaching staff cover up the BS a little more


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Let’s put it this way. If it was Andy Reid, Bill Bellechek, McVay, Sean Payton, or someone like that I would support the move. They’ve proven to make GOOD FOOTBALL decisions and have a proven track record.

Allen, Gruden and Manusky couldn’t run a pop Warner football team


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So then if he is right about the next coaching staff you fire them too?

What if 4 or 5 starters hate the next coaching staff and their right for doing so but the other 6 or 7 like the next coaching staff?

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214591]So then if he is right about the next coaching staff you fire them too?

What if 4 or 5 starters hate the next coaching staff and their right for doing so but the other 6 or 7 like the next coaching staff?

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No, you’re taking my position and the same position as most others on this out of context.


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214590]Let’s put it this way. If it was Andy Reid, Bill Bellechek, McVay, Sean Payton, or someone like that I would support the move. They’ve proven to make GOOD FOOTBALL decisions and have a proven track record.

Allen, Gruden and Manusky couldn’t run a pop Warner football team


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Your statement is a bit hypocritical.

McVay didn't have a track record until ownership took a chance on him and said we are doing it his way.

You only want retreads?

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214592]No, you’re taking my position and the same position as most others on this out of context.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]How is this out of context?

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214593]Your statement is a bit hypocritical.

McVay didn't have a track record until ownership took a chance on him and said we are doing it his way.

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You get my point. Those coaches have proven reputations. Our coaches and Bruce Allen’s reputations are trash, and DJ was speaking up against the trash. He’s completely right.

If he was on any of the team’s coached by the people I mentioned I’d disagree with him because their records, winning ways and reputations speak otherwise


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DJ plays with heart, and works extremely hard. He’s one of the best safeties in the NFL. No one disputes that.

What is Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden or Greg Manusky in this league? What have they done expect nothing?

DJ said he watches more film than the coaching staff. I’d believe that AND THATS THE PROBLEM.

Let’s cut a guy who probably prepares HARDER than the shit staff we have

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214596]DJ plays with heart, and works extremely hard. He’s one of the best safeties in the NFL. No one disputes that.

What is Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden or Greg Manusky in this league? What have they done expect nothing?

DJ said he watches more film than the coaching staff. I’d believe that AND THATS THE PROBLEM.

Let’s cut a guy who probably prepares HARDER than the shit staff we have

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Your hate isn’t letting you be objective. No team is going to tolerate a player who keeps blasting coaches in the media. He was warned repeatedly to stop. Enough was enough.

He’s worn out his welcome with 4 teams now. If that doesn’t say something to you nothing will.



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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214595]You get my point. Those coaches have proven reputations. Our coaches and Bruce Allen’s reputations are trash, and DJ was speaking up against the trash. He’s completely right.

If he was on any of the team’s coached by the people I mentioned I’d disagree with him because their records, winning ways and reputations speak otherwise


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]He knew about their reputations when he came here. Should he have cashed their checks?

I'm not a Manusky fan and I think he should be replaced.

But...

There have been many many instances this season, on pivitol plays where Manusky's calls and schemes put DJ and others in the right place at the right time and they (the players) missed a tackle, or went to the wrong place.

Haha missed an interception that would have probably won the Titans game.

DJ has made a ton of great plays but he has missed big tackles and been out of position on coverage too.

Should the coaches cone out and point out all the missed tackles and bad plays by the players as long as it is truthful and accurate?

Should Manusky have said after the game, "I schemed it up and put a spiral to win the game in HaHa's hands and his drop is making my scheme look bad."

You do know the play DJ was complaining about resulted in an incompletion. Fabian held the dude and it was a penalty.

Should DJ have ripped his team mate for dropping the interception? Or ripped Floyd for dropping the pass that would have set up at least a field goal?

Plenty of criticism to go around my friendand ALL OF IT should stay out of the media.

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Cardinals claimed DJ


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[QUOTE=MTK;1214604]Cardinals claimed DJ


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I know when he left the Texans and Bucs there was bad blood there.

I couldn't find anything about why the Cardinals let him walk. Anything out there?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1214580]He is a pro bowl player. Just another stupid move. Should have been put on the inactive list, with conduct detrimental to the team. And let the new coach and GM decide what to do with him. Unless, they fire the coach and GM and get me a new quarterback, I am done with the Redskins. They have disgraced themselves and made a fool of me enough. Lets cut DJ not accepting being a loser and let take all the gutless women beaters, that other teams don't want, come here. Why haven't these idiots signed Kareem hunt yet? Oh yeah, add Doug Williams to the top of the list.[/quote]

He is a Pro Bowl alternate and evwryone knows the Pro Bowl is watered down hot garbage. The two best teams don't send their players. DJ is a solid player who can be replaced. That is obvious since he will now be on his 5tth team if someone signs him. No need for loud mouthed cry babies.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214597]Your hate isn’t letting you be objective. No team is going to tolerate a player who keeps blasting coaches in the media. He was warned repeatedly to stop. Enough was enough.

He’s worn out his welcome with 4 teams now. If that doesn’t say something to you nothing will.



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You are right. I’m angry at everything this team does. I’ve grown so fed up and tired of it.

They could have kept DJ and I’d be bitching that they should have let him go.




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[quote=skinsfan69;1214607]He is a Pro Bowl alternate and evwryone knows the Pro Bowl is watered down hot garbage. The two best teams don't send their players. DJ is a solid player who can be replaced. That is obvious since he will now be on his 5tth team if someone signs him. No need for loud mouthed cry babies.[/quote]Really? Tell me why is it that our defense has been below average for so long if it is easy to to acquire players like DJ?

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1214611]Really? Tell me why is it that our defense has been below average for so long if it is easy to to acquire players like DJ?[/QUOTE]



Agree with this!! DJ and Haha are best Safety tandem since Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Let that sink in....


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214612]Agree with this!! DJ and Haha are best Safety tandem since Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Let that sink in....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] Who said anything about HAHA?

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214612]Agree with this!! DJ and Haha are best Safety tandem since Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Let that sink in....


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Yikes. How hard have you been hitting the egg nog?


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Name a safety tandem with more talent than DJ and Ha Ha since Sean Taylor and Landry....

I’ll wait


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[quote=DynamiteRave;1214614]Yikes. How hard have you been hitting the egg nog?


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He's an Eagles fan. Whatever he says is just a bunch of hot air.

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[quote=httr198020;1214611]Really? Tell me why is it that our defense has been below average for so long if it is easy to to acquire players like DJ?[/quote]

The defense has struggled for many reasons. We are not talking about Ronnie Lott here. He has missed tackles got beat in coverage yet can't shut his mouth. Like I said. Ok player that can be replaced.

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Sean Taylor never aired any dirty laundry in the media, even in 2006 when they were terrible.

He kept it in house.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214619]Name a safety tandem with more talent than DJ and Ha Ha since Sean Taylor and Landry....

I’ll wait


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Adrian Amos and Eddie Jackson
Bills
Chargers
Eagles
Falcons before Neal got hurt
Jags
Ravens
Saints
Titans
Texans

You still waiting

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[quote=skinsfan69;1214621]The defense has struggled for many reasons. We are not talking about Ronnie Lott here. He has missed tackles got beat in coverage yet can't shut his mouth. Like I said. Ok player that can be replaced.[/quote]

Exactly, he was playing out of his mind for the first half of the season and has been mediocre for the last 7 games or so. (Basically since the first Giants game and Cowboys game)

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1214623]Adrian Amos and Eddie Jackson

Bills

Chargers

Eagles

Falcons before Neal got hurt

Jags

Ravens

Saints

Titans

Texans



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I’m taking about a tandem the Redskins have had


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The fact that we have to compare DJ and HHCD to ST and Landry in terms of skills, means we really haven’t had a good safety duo in an extremely long time because DJ is above average and HHCD is fucking terrible.


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I still believe Swearinger wasn’t far off from the truth, but you don’t go to the press about this stuff. That being said, look for Manusky to be let go by season’s end.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1214629]I still believe Swearinger wasn’t far off from the truth, but you don’t go to the press about this stuff. That being said, look for Manusky to be let go by season’s end.[/QUOTE]Todd Bowles, you heard it here first.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1214626]The fact that we have to compare DJ and HHCD to ST and Landry in terms of skills, means we really haven’t had a good safety duo in an extremely long time because DJ is above average and HHCD is fucking terrible.


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Exactly. We have had terrible safety tandems since Area 51. God awful terrible safety tandems actually. So now we have a decent Safety in DJ, and since HAHA happens to be paired up with him he is automatically part of some great safety tandem. No. He is one of thee worst defensive starters on our team. Who gives a fuck about loudmouth DJ? Still a ton of changes need to be made in the FO and staff, but getting rid of dipshits (talented or not) is a good place to start.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214630]Todd Bowles, you heard it here first.

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I will take Todd Bowles.


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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214598]He knew about their reputations when he came here. Should he have cashed their checks?

I'm not a Manusky fan and I think he should be replaced.

But...

There have been many many instances this season, on pivitol plays where Manusky's calls and schemes put DJ and others in the right place at the right time and they (the players) missed a tackle, or went to the wrong place.

Haha missed an interception that would have probably won the Titans game.

DJ has made a ton of great plays but he has missed big tackles and been out of position on coverage too.

[B]Should the coaches cone out and point out all the missed tackles and bad plays by the players as long as it is truthful and accurate? [/B]

Should Manusky have said after the game, "I schemed it up and put a spiral to win the game in HaHa's hands and his drop is making my scheme look bad."

You do know the play DJ was complaining about resulted in an incompletion. Fabian held the dude and it was a penalty.

Should DJ have ripped his team mate for dropping the interception? Or ripped Floyd for dropping the pass that would have set up at least a field goal?

Plenty of criticism to go around my friendand ALL OF IT should stay out of the media.

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Maybe I am not understanding your statement but coaches do this and they should. Every week Gruden calls out players in his presser. He should there is nothing wrong with accountability.

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[quote=metalskins;1214629]I still believe Swearinger wasn’t far off from the truth, but you don’t go to the press about this stuff. That being said, look for Manusky to be let go by season’s end.[/quote]

After this incident I think he stays if Jay stays.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214630]Todd Bowles, you heard it here first.

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I’ve been saying that, only if Jets fire him, they might not. If Bowles stays, Tomsula would be an excellent choice.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1214637]Maybe I am not understanding your statement but coaches do this and they should. Every week Gruden calls out players in his presser. He should there is nothing wrong with accountability.[/QUOTE]

No he doesn't. Not at all. He is very protective of his players and coaches.

Gruden always protects his players as much as possible in the media after games.

The lone exception was when RG3 came out and started talking bad about the other players.

Accountability happens in the meeting room not the media.

What good organizations let their players bad mouth coaches and front office through the media? Even if everything is true.

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