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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220506]Will Grier in the 3rd[/quote]

Not in my plan obviously, but an acceptable solution if he slips since we have two thirds and he is probably a second round talent.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1220507]Not in my plan obviously, but an acceptable solution if he slips since we have two thirds and he is probably a second round talent.[/quote]

On tape he throws a good ball, arm strength is fine. I think he’s a sleeper

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When I see Bruce Allen at Haskins pro day I cringe. He is a guy that could come here and sell tickets since he's a local kid. And apparently he's friends w/ Snyder's kid as they went to the same private school. I could easily see Bruce pissing away draft picks to move up.

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[quote=MTK;1220505]Yeah but the Skins were set to take Kerryon Johnson before the Lions jumped ahead to take him


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They obviously had Kerryon rated higher (i think everyone did), but probably had no idea either RB would fall that low. I remember being quite surprised to see both fall.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220506]Will Grier in the 3rd[/quote]

Adam Shefter just tweeted that the Redskins have scheduled a private visit with Wil Greir.

But there are 3 other teams (including the G-Men) that has also scheduled visits with Grier.

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This is from a Vikings board, just reminded me of the exchanges on this site (change names appropriately)

[QUOTE]Spielman has done a good job building the team in general, but there has been 2 spots he really struggles in the oline and qb. He has done a terrible job with the oline since he has been gm. He almost completely ignores it and traditionally doesn’t like investing great value in it. The problem is the oline is essentially the tool of which the offense success starts and ends with. All the consistently successful teams either have an elite qb (top 3 in nfl) or above average to good qb and good oline. You have that and you don’t require great skill players (although they help). I still think the old philosophy holds true in that the success of a football teams starts with the oline and dline. If you are strong in the trenches you are going to have a good team.

Read more: [url]http://minnesotavikingsnation.com/thread/36518/saints-sign-easton?page=2#ixzz5ipeV8Laq[/url][/QUOTE]

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1220533]Adam Shefter just tweeted that the Redskins have scheduled a private visit with Wil Greir.

But there are 3 other teams (including the G-Men) that has also scheduled visits with Grier.[/quote]

It's the 3rd meeting with Grier so we'll see, apparently they must really like him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1220529]When I see Bruce Allen at Haskins pro day I cringe. He is a guy that could come here and sell tickets since he's a local kid. And apparently he's friends w/ Snyder's kid as they went to the same private school. I could easily see Bruce pissing away draft picks to move up.[/quote]

Thanks for the scary news. The friends with Snyder's kid part could be major trouble. All we need is another RG3 situation where the QB gets special privileges
that upset team chemistry.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220585]Thanks for the scary news. The friends with Snyder's kid part could be major trouble. All we need is another RG3 situation where the QB gets special privileges
that upset team chemistry.[/quote]

From what has been said, He is not friends with Dans son, they just went to the same HS. It's more media trying to create drama

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Sounds just fuckin grand....

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1220586]From what has been said, He is not friends with Dans son, they just went to the same HS. It's more media trying to create drama[/QUOTE]



Seriously overblown



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End of the day guys we need a young QB.

Rosen, Haskins , Grier , Lock.

One of these guys and I'm happy

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220597]End of the day guys we need a young QB.

Rosen, Haskins , Grier , Lock.

One of these guys and I'm happy[/quote]

Agreed.
Didn't study any of these guys in depth, but I'm always a believer that having an at least decent rookie QB allows you to build a good team around him because you're saving cap space on his rookie contract.

So as long as they don't break the bank in any kind of trade, I'll be fine with it.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1220586]From what has been said, He is not friends with Dans son, they just went to the same HS. It's more media trying to create drama[/QUOTE]



Agreed. They weren’t even at the high school at the same time.

Haskins is almost 22 and Snyder’s son is 17.... how many 22 year guys in college are friends with high schoolers?


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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220585]Thanks for the scary news. The friends with Snyder's kid part could be major trouble. All we need is another RG3 situation where the QB gets special privileges
that upset team chemistry.[/quote]

[quote=skinsfaninok;1220586]From what has been said, He is not friends with Dans son, they just went to the same HS. [B]It's more media trying to create drama[/B][/quote]

Like the Redskins need any help creating drama.

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Funny how 3 months ago, this was a weak class of QBs.. Now you are seeing names move higher and higher.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1220610]Funny how 3 months ago, this was a weak class of QBs.. Now you are seeing names move higher and higher.[/QUOTE]



Always happens with QBs


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Draft Brett Rypien or Will Grier by the 2nd round.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220610]Funny how 3 months ago, this was a weak class of QBs.. Now you are seeing names move higher and higher.[/quote]

In this day and age if you can score a good QB on a rookie deal you have a big salary cap advantage, so teams are going to reach for QBs.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1220629]Draft Brett Rypien or Will Grier by the 2nd round.[/QUOTE]Totally Agree [emoji106]

Seeing the video [emoji329] clips of Brett Rypien he seems to be a good choice as a 2nd Round selection for the Redskins!

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[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/24/18279751/redskins-injury-update-colt-mccoy-is-still-in-a-cast-and-using-crutches[/url]

Is this expected or unexpected?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1220644][url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/24/18279751/redskins-injury-update-colt-mccoy-is-still-in-a-cast-and-using-crutches[/url]

Is this expected or unexpected?

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Can't be good the injury was 3 months ago already.

If we don't take a QB in this draft I'm going to lose my shit.

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[quote=MTK;1220646]Can't be good the injury was 3 months ago already.

If we don't take a QB in this draft I'm going to lose my shit.[/quote]

Yop, and then, just like the rest of us, you're going to make yourself believe that Case Keenum looked decent that year with Minnesota, that if the injury bug doesn't bite us we may have a chance to win some games, that anything can happen, that our D looked good when healthy, that Guice and AP are back etc... and it's going to be another long season, with just enough hope and belief to make it really painful.

Life of a Skins fan, we all know as the season opener moves closer, it'll be harder and harder to not believe at all.
Heck, I still have hope we find a starting LG, a #1 WR and a decent QB... how weak and stupid am I ?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1220646]Can't be good the injury was 3 months ago already.

If we don't take a QB in this draft I'm going to lose my shit.[/QUOTE]Rosen, Haskins or Grier

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1220648]Yop, and then, just like the rest of us, you're going to make yourself believe that Case Keenum looked decent that year with Minnesota, that if the injury bug doesn't bite us we may have a chance to win some games, that anything can happen, that our D looked good when healthy, that Guice and AP are back etc... and it's going to be another long season, with just enough hope and belief to make it really painful.

Life of a Skins fan, we all know as the season opener moves closer, it'll be harder and harder to not believe at all.
Heck, I still have hope we find a starting LG, a #1 WR and a decent QB... how weak and stupid am I ?[/QUOTE]The LG and WR should be happening in this draft

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I am worried that Smith and Colt are both in crutches as of 3/24/19. I don't like the idea of the Redskins trading picks or obtaining an aging Vet. I want us to trade down and draft Parris Campbell in the first, then pick up Ryan Finley in the 2nd. Hopefully, we pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd, then I could justify trading pics for AJ Green or picking up an additional LG, TE, or Receiver.

Finley is a pure pocket passer with comps to Smith, Cousins, and we have seen those types do well in Gruden's system. I'd also draft Rypien or Jackson in later rounds.

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I would take 5 or 6 Qbs in this draft before Tyree Jackson. Kid has a great arm with no accuracy.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1220644][url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/24/18279751/redskins-injury-update-colt-mccoy-is-still-in-a-cast-and-using-crutches[/url]

Is this expected or unexpected?

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Why in god name do we keep so many injury prone players around on this team? It makes no sense. Its so aggravating to see the same mistakes over and over again by this Front office.

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[quote=Chico23231;1220663]Why in god name do we keep so many injury prone players around on this team? It makes no sense. Its so aggravating to see the same mistakes over and over again by this Front office.[/quote]

Because "He knows the system"

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1220648]Yop, and then, just like the rest of us, you're going to make yourself believe that Case Keenum looked decent that year with Minnesota, that if the injury bug doesn't bite us we may have a chance to win some games, that anything can happen, that our D looked good when healthy, that Guice and AP are back etc... and it's going to be another long season, with just enough hope and belief to make it really painful.

Life of a Skins fan, we all know as the season opener moves closer, it'll be harder and harder to not believe at all.
Heck, I still have hope we find a starting LG, a #1 WR and a decent QB... how weak and stupid am I ?[/quote]

I'm not falling for anything with Keenum. He is what he is, a journeyman QB who can play well if you have a loaded team around him. Without strong support he's JAG, basically a Rex Grossman type and we've seen how that goes.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1220665]I'm not falling for anything with Keenum. He is what he is, a journeyman QB who can play well if you have a loaded team around him. Without strong support he's JAG, basically a Rex Grossman type and we've seen how that goes.[/QUOTE]Oh I definitely agree.
I'm just pointing out that even know, while it seems this offseason could very well turn out to be a terrible one if some crucial moves aren't made (#whytheFhasn'tScherffbeenextendedyet?) , part of me can already see how I could, and probably will, spin the narrative so, as the season moves closer, I'll sincerely start thinking we have a shot at not being that terrible.

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My plan is Keenum and a rookie who is drafted no higher than the second round, unless he happens to be the best player - not just the best QB - available at #15. That's a good enough plan for now, as they will be playing for a lame duck coach.

I'm beginning to think that Alex is definitely done and that Colt may also be done with the NFL because of their injuries.

We need a long term plan to land the Alabama kid as our future QB in the 2020 draft more than we need to trade away assets in order to reach for a QB in this draft.

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Keenum is 31 Years old, he is who he is. In Minnesota his career year with A Loaded offense he only managed 22 TDs. Last years Case is about what u get. 18 Tds - 15 Ints.

If he is QB1 going into this season, we better hope Guice and AD run wild.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1220674]My plan is Keenum and a rookie who is drafted no higher than the second round, unless he happens to be the best player - not just the best QB - available at #15. That's a good enough plan for now, as they will be playing for a lame duck coach.

I'm beginning to think that Alex is definitely done and that Colt may also be done with the NFL because of their injuries.

We need a long term plan to land the Alabama kid as our future QB in the 2020 draft more than we need to trade away assets in order to reach for a QB in this draft.[/quote]

The problem is, Keenum can manage 6 wins. Tua is going to be a top 5 pick, maybe the #1 pick. Tanking for QB's is hard to do, unless you go Cleveland Browns style and make sure you get that guy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220675]Keenum is 31 Years old, he is who he is. In Minnesota his career year with A Loaded offense he only managed 22 TDs. Last years Case is about what u get. 18 Tds - 15 Ints.

If he is QB1 going into this season, we better hope Guice and AD run wild.[/quote]

I don't know if I'm missing something, but how loaded was the Vikings offense, aside from having Diggs and Thielin that year? Because Dalvin Cook got hurt in game 4 that year and going into the season, Thielin was just a WR and he broke out that season.

I feel the Vikings and Keenum's success had more to do with the Vikes' defense being elite, rather than having a "loaded offense."

Granted, that we probably don't have two good WRs in our team, but perhaps with a good defense and running game, Keenum can recreate some of his magic from 2017.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1220689]I don't know if I'm missing something, but how loaded was the Vikings offense, aside from having Diggs and Thielin that year? Because Dalvin Cook got hurt in game 4 that year and going into the season, Thielin was just a WR and he broke out that season.

I feel the Vikings and Keenum's success had more to do with the Vikes' defense being elite, rather than having a "loaded offense."

Granted, that we probably don't have two good WRs in our team, but perhaps with a good defense and running game, Keenum can recreate some of his magic from 2017.[/quote]

Rudolph at TE, Murray at RB1.

They had plenty of talent for today's NFL.

We don't have 1 guy anywhere close to Diggs or Thielen

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Draft a rookie and start him day one. Period.

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We're going to go with Keenum or Rosen. If we draft a rookie it means Jay has been given some sort of assurances he'll be given time with a rookie, and that's my worst case scenario. Lame duck coaches don't want rookie QBs.

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[quote=Daseal;1220694]We're going to go with Keenum or Rosen. If we draft a rookie it means Jay has been given some sort of assurances he'll be given time with a rookie, and that's my worst case scenario. Lame duck coaches don't want rookie QBs.[/quote]

Rosen makes the most sense, his style fits Jays offense more than Haskins, Grier , etc.

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It's clear as crystal that the Redskins must draft more than one QB.....I see no QB worthy of a 1st rd pick except Murray and maybe Haskins...a QB can be taken in the 2nd or 3rd round and another QB can be added later in the draft....Colt McCoy will be ready for the season but once in 2014 and again in 2018 he's shown that he gets injured when he's given the keys to the offense...and to hell with Josh Johnson....if they make Johnsin a 3rd QB so be it....if Colt McCoy played for New England or Pittsburgh he would have been traded by now....our front office has a competence problem of being unable to let go of players that are average....such as Colt McCoy and Rob Kelley.

But I have no problem with Case Keenum starting.