Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

If the Skins do trade for Rosen, then I DO NOT want them to give up the #15 pick for him.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1219953]If the Skins do trade for Rosen, then I DO NOT want them to give up the #15 pick for him.[/quote]

After the Antonio Brown trade with the Steelers getting a 3rd and 5th, I doubt anyone gives up a 1st.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

I'd give a 3rd for Rosen and that's it.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

It's a given that the Redskins will draft another QB....we have too many QBs that are 30 years plus....I'm expecting Keenum to be practically the same game manager that Alex Smith was if not slightly more....he's proven that he can play....

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=MTK;1219955]I'd give a 3rd for Rosen and that's it.[/quote]

That's all I'm giving too, if they want more let him go elsewhere and just roll with Case for a yr and draft a rookie

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220025]It's a given that the Redskins will draft another QB....we have too many QBs that are 30 years plus....[B]I'm expecting Keenum to be practically the same game manager that Alex Smith was[/B] if not slightly more....he's proven that he can play....[/quote]

Except he throws a lot more picks

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220036]If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.[/quote]

Definitely not a game manager.

And yes anytime a player jumps around there's a good reason for it.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220036]If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.[/quote]

And that is why the skins know a QB is a top priority

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1219954]After the Antonio Brown trade with the Steelers getting a 3rd and 5th, I doubt anyone gives up a 1st.[/quote]

This is why I think NY did a good job in the Odell trade .

A #1,#3 and a two year starter former #1 pick at safety. Plus when all is said and done it will save about 3 million in cap space this year.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Giantone;1220044]This is why I think NY did a good job in the Odell trade .

A #1,#3 and a two year starter former #1 pick at safety. Plus when all is said and done it will save about 3 million in cap space this year.[/quote]

:doh:

Another question, if the Giants are rebuilding why do they have a 38 year old QB

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220036]If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.[/quote]

This is the main reason I don't understand the trade. We already have close to 25 million tied into QBs over 30 for next year. 45 million if Smith retires before June 1st I think. Someone will correct me on that if I am misinterpreting the AS contract. I was hoping for a rebuild but I just don't see it.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

The trade for Keenum is fine, we need more than Colt and Keenum is a very similar player and a good fit.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220036]If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.[/quote]


[quote=skinsfaninok;1220042]And that is why the skins know a QB is a top priority[/quote]

My comment was directed at those dwindling few in here that always seem to be overly optimistic. I remember getting lit up when I when I called Alex Smith Captain Checkdown the day the Redskins signed him. A good many seemed to think he could duplicate his KC success in DC. Then there were those that thought Colt was as good as Cousins. A handful thought JJ could succeed in the right situation. I admit I am a glass half full type person, but some people are optimistic to the point of insanity.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=MTK;1220051]:doh:

Another question, if the Giants are rebuilding why do they have a 38 year old QB[/quote]

They'll probably draft a guy and have Eli teach him up. There is no way the Giants are competing this yr.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220036]If Keenum was any good he would not be on his sixth team by the age of 30. He also had double digit fumbles last year.[/quote]

I concur....there's a reason why Keenum went undrafted.....and he's a journeyman quarterback...he's somewhere near a poor man's Tony Romo and a rich man's Jeff Garcia.....

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220939]I concur....there's a reason why Keenum went undrafted.....and he's a journeyman quarterback...he's somewhere near a poor man's Tony Romo and a rich man's Jeff Garcia.....[/quote]

Garcia is a 4x Pro Bowler.


Keenum is a rich man's Uncle Rico.
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Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

Keenum is a rich mans Colt Mccoy and nothing more

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1220991]Keenum is a rich mans Colt Mccoy and nothing more[/quote]

Agreed. Both are low-end starting NFL QBs. They can get us through 2019, but after that, we either need to start a young guy we draft in 2019/2020 or hope Alex Smith is back (unlikely).

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1220992]Agreed. Both are low-end starting NFL QBs. They can get us through 2019, but after that, we either need to start a young guy we draft in 2019/2020 or hope Alex Smith is back (unlikely).[/quote]

In 2020 Alex will be 36 years old, his career is most likely done. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retired at some point in 2019.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1220995]In 2020 Alex will be 36 years old, his career is most likely done. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retired at some point in 2019.[/quote]

I think that is almost certainly what will happen, and I hope it does. If i recall correctly, if he never plays football again due to his injury, we get a $10-12MM salary cap credit due to an insurance policy the team took out.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1220996]I think that is almost certainly what will happen, and I hope it does. If i recall correctly, if he never plays football again due to his injury, we get a $10-12MM salary cap credit due to an insurance policy the team took out.[/quote]

I hope so, also why would he risk playing again? This team isn't a contender anytime soon

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=jamf;1220990]Garcia is a 4x Pro Bowler.


Keenum is a rich man's Uncle Rico.
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True.....Garcia played in a slightly different NFL when defenders were a little slower and defenses weren't blitzing as much as they do now.

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1220995]In 2020 Alex will be 36 years old, his career is most likely done. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retired at some point in 2019.[/quote]

Jason La Canfora is saying now that it is unlikely that Alex Smith ever plays again. I wonder if he has heard some sort of rumbling from a team source / something?

Re: Case Keenum to the Skins
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1221040]Jason La Canfora is saying now that it is unlikely that Alex Smith ever plays again. I wonder if he has heard some sort of rumbling from a team source / something?[/quote]

I’d imagine he has heard it from a close source