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Love AP's contract.

So far it almost feels like our FO's thinking "let's build a [I]badass D[/I], admit next season is a [I]rebuilding one[/I], and worry about the offense later"... But Jay and/or Bruce having to [I]save their jobs[/I], I don't see them going into the season with so many holes on one side of the ball.

Per [URL="https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/"]OTC[/URL], we currently have 16.8M available, not including AP's 2.5M cap hit.
So that's [I][U]14.3M[/U][/I].
Could create some more space by [I]extending Scherff[/I] (WTF are they waiting for?!!!) and [I]cutting VD[/I] (maybe even Mason Foster but then you have to worry about ILB depth).

So we still have some cap to maneuver with.
What I would prefer to happen is us signing a [I]proven vet at LG[/I] and a[I] solid #2 like Donte Moncrief[/I], then go WR/Edge rusher in the first 2 rounds... and hope you can trade for Rosen or do something at QB without compromising your future...

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Rumor going around that the Skins are interested in AJ Green, this is per Keim and Finlay via twitter. I'm not sure how serious it is just throwing the thought out there.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1220130]Love AP's contract.

So far it almost feels like our FO's thinking "let's build a [I]badass D[/I], admit next season is a [I]rebuilding one[/I], and worry about the offense later"... But Jay and/or Bruce having to [I]save their jobs[/I], I don't see them going into the season with so many holes on one side of the ball.

Per [URL="https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/"]OTC[/URL], we currently have 16.8M available, not including AP's 2.5M cap hit.
So that's [I][U]14.3M[/U][/I].
[B]Could create some more space by [I]extending Scherff[/I] (WTF are they waiting for?!!!) and [I]cutting VD[/I] (maybe even Mason Foster but then you have to worry about ILB depth).[/B]

So we still have some cap to maneuver with.
What I would prefer to happen is us signing a [I]proven vet at LG[/I] and a[I] solid #2 like Donte Moncrief[/I], then go WR/Edge rusher in the first 2 rounds... and hope you can trade for Rosen or do something at QB without compromising your future...[/quote]

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want us going TE if Hockensen is available at 15. Talk about an area that has felt neglected for years. You just can't count on Reed.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220131]Rumor going around that the Skins are interested in AJ Green, this is per Keim and Finlay via twitter. I'm not sure how serious it is just throwing the thought out there.[/quote]

AJ Green was injured last year and his production has declined. So I would imagine we would do a new deal as well since he will be UFA after this year.

A WR who is clearly past his prime...I really hope we wouldn't do a lot of guaranteed money and he's not worth more than the last pick in the 3rd round.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220131]Rumor going around that the Skins are interested in AJ Green, this is per Keim and Finlay via twitter. I'm not sure how serious it is just throwing the thought out there.[/quote]

Interesting, I'd take Green for the right price. At 31 he's still got a few more quality years left.

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To me it seems like a reach for a desperate team in need of selling seats. I'd take him because we literally have one of the worst WR Cores in football but not for anything higher than a 5th rd pick. He's 31 and has had injuries of late. Mahamad Sanu has also been mentioned by Keim. It's obvious the team needs to bring in a couple WRs via draft or trade.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220140]To me it seems like a reach for a desperate team in need of selling seats. I'd take him because we literally have one of the worst WR Cores in football but not for anything higher than a 5th rd pick. He's 31 and has had injuries of late. Mahamad Sanu has also been mentioned by Keim. It's obvious the team needs to bring in a couple WRs via draft or trade.[/quote]

While AJ Green is much better player, I would prefer for us to go for FA WR such as Sanu or whoever else only because of the position Redskins are at now. We are not one WR away from being a contender, thus we should not give up much for a player who will not be with us in few years later.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220140]To me it seems like a reach for a desperate team in need of selling seats. I'd take him because we literally have one of the worst WR Cores in football but not for anything higher than a 5th rd pick. He's 31 and has had injuries of late. Mahamad Sanu has also been mentioned by Keim. It's obvious the team needs to bring in a couple WRs via draft or trade.[/quote]

I wouldn't necessarily call this desperate. AJ Green makes any offense automatically better. I mean the Red Rifle is not an elite QB by all means. I think AJ Green, AP/Guice/CT, and a healthy QB can get something done with how good our defense looks.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1220142]I wouldn't necessarily call this desperate. AJ Green makes any offense automatically better. I mean the Red Rifle is not an elite QB by all means. I think AJ Green, AP/Guice/CT, and a healthy QB can get something done with how good our defense looks.[/quote]

Wonder if they would take Green for Doctson and a 5th?

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If Green was 35 I'd call trading for him desperate. But at 31 it's not crazy to think he can still be a very productive WR for another 2-3 years.

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I really hope this isn't true about Green. With all the issues we've had w/ injuries, why would they go after Green? How about develop one of your own Wr's. How about draft one or two that can actually stay on the field and produce.

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Right now Bruce and Jay are definitely desperate...both jobs on the line

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1220130]Love AP's contract.

So far it almost feels like our FO's thinking "let's build a [I]badass D[/I], admit next season is a [I]rebuilding one[/I], and worry about the offense later"... But Jay and/or Bruce having to [I]save their jobs[/I], I don't see them going into the season with so many holes on one side of the ball.

Per [URL="https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/"]OTC[/URL], we currently have 16.8M available, not including AP's 2.5M cap hit.
So that's [I][U]14.3M[/U][/I].
Could create some more space by [I]extending Scherff[/I] (WTF are they waiting for?!!!) and [I]cutting VD[/I] (maybe even Mason Foster but then you have to worry about ILB depth).

So we still have some cap to maneuver with.
What I would prefer to happen is us signing a [I]proven vet at LG[/I] and a[I] solid #2 like Donte Moncrief[/I], then go WR/Edge rusher in the first 2 rounds... and hope you can trade for Rosen or do something at QB without compromising your future...[/quote]

That is a lot to ask for with only 14.3 million available and still needing to draft. Agree cuts need to be made but as you point at what cost? I never feel like the Skins ever go in with an adequate amount of $ and are always up against the cap going into FA and draft. Would love for them to blow the whole thing up and go into a full rebuild.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1220147]I really hope this isn't true about Green. With all the issues we've had w/ injuries, why would they go after Green? How about develop one of your own Wr's. How about draft one or two that can actually stay on the field and produce.[/quote]

Agreed, he hurt his toe last year, came back and re-injured it, not a good sign.
A lot of skill position players decline quickly after 30.

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Trading for AJ Green would not hinder the development of young players or stop the team from drafting a WR.

I think injuries would be a concern and the money of course. But a healthy AJ Green in 2019 would be huge for the team.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1220150]That is a lot to ask for with only 14.3 million available and still needing to draft. Agree cuts need to be made but as you point at what cost? I never feel like the Skins ever go in with an adequate amount of $ and are always up against the cap going into FA and draft. Would love for them to blow the whole thing up and go into a full rebuild.[/QUOTE]When they're able to sign a 84M contract and structure it so the first year cap hit is 4M, I don't think it's that crazy to hope 15M-20M would be enough to get a decent LG, a #2 WR and sign our draft picks. That's assuming we could get Rosen, which right now I'll admit is a pretty big reach... but even if we don't, Keenum has proven to be capable of playing decently with the proper supporting cast.

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Would lOVE AJ Green. Even at 31, he's still a match up nightmare for any team with his size and still decent speed.

Do it!

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How about r Cobb or g tate

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[QUOTE=bigant;1220157]How about r Cobb or g tate[/QUOTE]



Tate is a slot and we already have Quinn who I think will be a good Crowder replacement.


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No splash with Cobb or Tate

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[quote=MTK;1220159]No splash with Cobb or Tate[/quote]

More like a sprinkle. LOL.

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Wonder how much Justin Houston wants, always been a fan of that guy

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The Skins might be able to sign Shane Ray on the cheap. I wonder if they have any interest in him. He could be worth a look as an Edge Rusher if the price and terms were right.

Also, Stefan Wisniewski might be able to help us out at LG - again, if the deal is right. He has played there before.

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We might have the worst offense right now in the national football league ,I'm pretty sure we do

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^ Good thing games aren't played in March.

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[quote=MTK;1220161]Wonder how much Justin Houston wants, always been a fan of that guy[/quote]

and Quinton Spain. Maxx Williams on a prove it deal too.

Houston would be a good catch

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1220163]The Skins might be able to sign Shane Ray on the cheap. I wonder if they have any interest in him. He could be worth a look as an Edge Rusher if the price and terms were right.

[/quote]


Edge rusher is one of the most important positions in the NFL and you want to get a guy on the cheap to start?

That's like buying Sushi at a gas station.

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[quote=MTK;1220165]^ Good thing games aren't played in March.[/quote]

Yup

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[quote=jamf;1220167]Edge rusher is one of the most important positions in the NFL and you want to get a guy on the cheap to start?

That's like buying Sushi at a gas station.[/quote]

Sign a cheap vet like Ray and still draft someone

That way you're just snacking on the gas station spicy tuna roll while on your way to the classy steak joint

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[quote=MTK;1220169]Sign a cheap vet like Ray and still draft someone

That way you're just snacking on the gas station spicy tuna roll while on your way to the classy steak joint[/quote]

This would be only way. Ray is another often injured guy...so I'm sure we'll get him.

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Collins wants to wear #21

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Can't he just wear 36 instead? I know ST was his idol but.... Still.... Id rather he didnt

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I agree , I don't understand why it's not already retired or is it?

Also

Per Keim

Doug Williams says QB is still in play for the Redskins, and he says there are lot of options. Moving up or moving back at 15 as well as a later round passer

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Anyone else think we should look at Bryce Callahan? It would save a pick on a CB, and just leave starting FS to firm up. Think he'd work well with Dunbar and Norman (assuming we don't let Norman go).

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220174]Collins wants to wear #21[/quote]

F Collins! He ain't ever getting that number. Nobody is ever going to get it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220176]I agree , I don't understand why it's not already retired or is it? [/quote]

I think the Redskins don't retire numbers but there are some numbers they won't give out. Number 21 is one of those numbers.

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[quote=MTK;1220169][B]Sign a cheap vet like Ray and still draft someone[/B]

That way you're just snacking on the gas station spicy tuna roll while on your way to the classy steak joint[/quote]

That was my thought when I posted about Ray. I had the same thought about possibly signing Wisniewski. Both of them might become stop-gaps but the idea is to only sign them to team-friendly short-term contracts.

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[quote=MTK;1220169]Sign a cheap vet like Ray and still draft someone

That way you're just snacking on the gas station spicy tuna roll while on your way to the classy steak joint[/quote]

Problem is Bruce driving the car and says, we don't have time to stop again (trades draft pick for broken 31-year old AJ Green)....tells you to eat 6-month stale Funyuns (UDFA) off the floorboard while you shit your pants (Ray, injured out for year second game)

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[quote=Chico23231;1220190]Problem is Bruce driving the car and says, we don't have time to stop again (trades draft pick for broken 31-year old AJ Green)....tells you to eat 6-month stale Funyuns (UDFA) off the floorboard while you shit your pants (Ray, injured out for year second game)[/quote]

This metaphor has officially jumped the shark.