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[quote=mooby;1233594][url]https://twitter.com/1067theFan/status/1181231901497024512[/url]

Lombardi with the good analogy, says firing Jay is like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.[/quote]

Here's the direct link to anyone who wanna take a listen: [url]https://www.radio.com/media/audio-channel/michael-lombardi-grant-and-danny-0[/url]

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From Day one of this year, it looked to me like Jay had already checked out. I could see him being really pissed at DS for over-ruling him about Haskins being picked for the team. Especially because Jay is a GB guy. It kind of adds insult to injury. After he got fired he was probably dancing for joy. Now he has this huge dysfunctional monkey off his back. And he still has millions of dollars. That's a win, win.

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Lombardi as usual just crushes the front office.

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Big fan of Lombardi...he has become a leading voice of the “real”resistance

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[QUOTE=mooby;1233594][url]https://twitter.com/1067theFan/status/1181231901497024512[/url]



Lombardi with the good analogy, says firing Jay is like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.[/QUOTE]



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So Bill is gonna stick with Case or Colt,wtf,I hate this organization

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Had an uber waiting for him at 5:30 am from what I have heard

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27795536/jay-gruden-laments-injuries-lack-total-say-washington-redskins-tenure[/url]

Nobody talking about this yet?

[quote=Jay Gruden]"I have mixed emotions about it," Gruden said. "At the end of the day, if you're not the GM, you have to accept the fact that you don't get everything you want. You accept the players given to you. I had input in some areas, but there are some major issues there. It's that way with most coaches. You don't have that total say. It's something you have to overcome and work with the guys you have."
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Wtf do we gotta do to get Danny to see the light?

[SIZE="7"]#FIREBRUCE[/SIZE]

I also agree with Gruden on Haskins.

[quote=Jay Gruden]
On Friday, Gruden told ESPN, "If you haven't done it, there's a lot on your plate. Until he gets really comfortable, it's for his own good. If I didn't like him, I'd put him out there right now. I do like him. I think the world of him. He's going to be a great quarterback one day. Time is really important for him."
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People really think it's gonna suddenly click for Haskins while he's staring down defensive formations on the field? I really don't understand the hostility towards having qb's who aren't pro-ready sit out their first season to get acclimated. Did it hurt Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady? Patrick Mahomes? Phillip Rivers?

Did it help Dak Prescott to start since game 1 as a rookie? More than it helped surrounding him with a stud offensive line, a top-5 running back and multiple weapons at WR/TE?

Everybody is different. If multiple coaches say Haskins isn't ready, I'm inclined to agree. If they felt like he could run enough plays to win games I am positive he would be in there taking his lumps.

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Starting Haskins with an OL in disarray (injuries and no TW) would be a bad decision and can ruin a young QB’s confidence. Team is going nowhere, so lets be patient.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2019/09/30/should-washington-name-dwayne-haskins-starting-qb[/url]

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Scott Van Pelt on SC "1 Big Thing" tonight was spot the fuck on tonight in regards to the last 20 years and everything we have been complaining about here for years and most recently... Visibly fed up like we all are and you could see it all over him. SMH this fuckin FO

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[QUOTE=mooby;1233635][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27795536/jay-gruden-laments-injuries-lack-total-say-washington-redskins-tenure[/url]



Nobody talking about this yet?







Wtf do we gotta do to get Danny to see the light?



[SIZE="7"]#FIREBRUCE[/SIZE]



I also agree with Gruden on Haskins.







People really think it's gonna suddenly click for Haskins while he's staring down defensive formations on the field? I really don't understand the hostility towards having qb's who aren't pro-ready sit out their first season to get acclimated. Did it hurt Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady? Patrick Mahomes? Phillip Rivers?



Did it help Dak Prescott to start since game 1 as a rookie? More than it helped surrounding him with a stud offensive line, a top-5 running back and multiple weapons at WR/TE?



Everybody is different. If multiple coaches say Haskins isn't ready, I'm inclined to agree. If they felt like he could run enough plays to win games I am positive he would be in there taking his lumps.[/QUOTE]



My question is this: what changes NEXT SEASON for Haskins? Is this OL going to miraculously improve in 2020? Won’t Haskins have a new HC next year? What if Haskins has to compete against Alex Smith next season - could he go another year riding pine while he watches another experienced QB beat him out due largely to his inexperience?

For every QB you list as having waited a year before starting, there are others who started on the first day of their rookie season AND THRIVED earlier due to that experience. Wentz of the Eagles is one such example.

The Redskins have not had a franchise QB in over two decades. Their extremely poor team record reflects this lack of quality in a team’s most important position. They drafted Haskins to be that franchise QB. Let him play and gain game time experience. Do you think he’s really learning anything watching Keenum or McCoy play?


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[quote=Meks;1233639]Scott Van Pelt on SC "1 Big Thing" tonight was spot the fuck on tonight in regards to the last 20 years and everything we have been complaining about here for years and most recently... Visibly fed up like we all are and you could see it all over him. SMH this fuckin FO[/quote]

I just caught that this morning,yep you’re right and he was right,we can only hope Dan saw it

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[quote=htownskinfan;1233655]I just caught that this morning,yep you’re right and he was right,[B]we can only hope Dan saw it[/B][/quote]

The IMAX screen on his yacht is blocking Snyder's vision.

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Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.

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Great breakdown of the BA presser. it is one man's opinion but....

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/10/8/20898352/the-5-oclock-club-soup-answers[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233637]Starting Haskins with an OL in disarray (injuries and no TW) would be a bad decision and can ruin a young QB’s confidence. Team is going nowhere, so lets be patient.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2019/09/30/should-washington-name-dwayne-haskins-starting-qb[/url][/quote]

Definitely agree, he needs plenty of improvement on his footwork and learning to protect himself, you can do those in practice.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

Agree.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.

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[QUOTE=irish;1233693]DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I think BA will get fired after the next coach has 2 abysmal years. Think of this next coach as BA's Zorn hire. No one of note is going to come but in BAs smugness he won't realize it til he is hiring a 3rd tier position coach. The fans will either revolt like with Cerrato or their complete apathy will force any stadium deal to collapse under the weight of voter rebellion against tax breaks for the Skins FO. At that point BAs value as a local politcal voice will be nil and Snyder will fire him and replace him with a third stooge with another 10year lease on life. By that point the team will be so desolate of fans that they will move to Mexico and be renamed the Aztecs.

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Snyder fired Vinny so I don't think firing Bruce is off limits.

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[quote=MTK;1233707]Snyder fired Vinny so I don't think firing Bruce is off limits.[/quote]

December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.

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[quote=SunnySide;1233712]December [B]7[/B][B][/B], 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December [B]17[/B], 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.[/quote]

I thought you were going on some numerological IB tangent for a second.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1233706]I disagree. I think BA will get fired after the next coach has 2 abysmal years. Think of this next coach as BA's Zorn hire. No one of note is going to come but in BAs smugness he won't realize it til he is hiring a 3rd tier position coach. The fans will either revolt like with Cerrato or their complete apathy will force any stadium deal to collapse under the weight of voter rebellion against tax breaks for the Skins FO. At that point BAs value as a local politcal voice will be nil and Snyder will fire him and replace him with a third stooge with another 10year lease on life. By that point the team will be so desolate of fans that they will move to Mexico and be renamed the Aztecs.

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What I'm says in DS will tell BA he's fired but allow him to resign and save face.

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[quote=SunnySide;1233712]December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired

I think we need a new best buddy waiting in the wings for Snyder to feel comfortable letting go of Bruce. I dont think we have that person. I dont think Snyder will let go of Bruce's hand until then.

Scary part is I dont have a clue who could be the next bestie for Snyder. Bruce might be around for a long time.[/quote]

Alex Smith and Dan Snyder have been hanging out in the owner's booth, and at Sunday's game there was a prominent video shot of Alex and Dan walking on the sidelines together, with Dan staring at Alex lovingly. He may be the on his way to being the bestie that can get Dan to let go of Bruce.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEiGd5AXUAQTAOk.jpg:large[/IMG]

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[quote=SunnySide;1233712]
December 7, 2009 -- Vinny was fired

December 17, 2009 -- Bruce was officially hired
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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233723]I thought you were going on some numerological IB tangent for a second.[/quote]

December 17, 2019 -- Bruce will retire

December 27, 2019 -- Mark Brunell takes over GM role after Peyton Manning rejects the job offer.

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[quote=Warthog;1233640]My question is this: [B]what changes NEXT SEASON for Haskins?[/B] Is this OL going to miraculously improve in 2020? Won’t Haskins have a new HC next year? What if Haskins has to compete against Alex Smith next season - could he go another year riding pine while he watches another experienced QB beat him out due largely to his inexperience?

For every QB you list as having waited a year before starting, there are others who started on the first day of their rookie season AND THRIVED earlier due to that experience. Wentz of the Eagles is one such example.

The Redskins have not had a franchise QB in over two decades. Their extremely poor team record reflects this lack of quality in a team’s most important position. They drafted Haskins to be that franchise QB. Let him play and gain game time experience. Do you think he’s really learning anything watching Keenum or McCoy play?


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Is this really a legit question? Literally we're talking about having a new HC, a new offensive scheme to learn, new offensive linemen in front of him, new wideouts/TE/backs to throw to, [B][I]literally[/I][/B] everything could be totally different for him next year.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1233680]Short of fans developing a grass roots movement to boycot Skins games and merch, and/or protest at the stadium, Snyder isn’t going to do anything to can Allen. But I think we are at a point where those measures are warranted and need to happen.[/quote]

With revenue sharing I don't think that's going to hit Dan as hard as it would without.

I think our best measure is working in coordination with the opposing fans that will fill Fedex every other weekend to get #firebruce chants going, as well as bringing a ton of signs to the stadium like in '09.

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[quote=irish;1233693]DS will never overtly fire BA the way Gruden was fired. If the day ever comes when BA resigns I expect it because DS asked him to resign rather than firing him.[/quote]

I don’t care how it happens as long as it happens.

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[quote=mooby;1233733]With revenue sharing I don't think that's going to hit Dan as hard as it would without.

I think our best measure is working in coordination with the opposing fans that will fill Fedex every other weekend to get #firebruce chants going, as well as bringing a ton of signs to the stadium like in '09.[/quote]

Is Fedex field in a no fly zone? If not let's take up a collection to fly a fire bruce banner around the stadium during a game.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233783]Is Fedex field in a no fly zone? If not let's take up a collection to fly a fire bruce banner around the stadium during a game.[/quote]

+1

Get back to the grassroots. I like it.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233783]Is Fedex field in a no fly zone? If not let's take up a collection to fly a fire bruce banner around the stadium during a game.[/quote]


[quote=mooby;1233785]+1

Get back to the grassroots. I like it.[/quote]

Just on a quick Google flight time is $400-$500 an hour which starts when the banner is flown into the air from the airport. It said banners cost $1.75 a square foot, so figure $200 there. That was just a quick Google hit, I wonder if there is such a service close to Fedex? All you would need for 2 hours and a banner was 100 people donating the cost of their next 12 pack.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1233787]Just on a quick Google flight time is $400-$500 an hour which starts when the banner is flown into the air from the airport. It said banners cost $1.75 a square foot, so figure $200 there. That was just a quick Google hit, I wonder if there is such a service close to Fedex? All you would need for 2 hours and a banner was 100 people donating the cost of their next 12 pack.[/QUOTE]I would be surprised if Fedex airspace was open, locked as it is between Joint Base Andrews and the US capital.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1233790]I would be surprised if Fedex airspace was open, locked as it is between Joint Base Andrews and the US capital.

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Lets do the mobile ad truck.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233787]Just on a quick Google flight time is $400-$500 an hour which starts when the banner is flown into the air from the airport. It said banners cost $1.75 a square foot, so figure $200 there. That was just a quick Google hit, I wonder if there is such a service close to Fedex? All you would need for 2 hours and a banner was 100 people donating the cost of their next 12 pack.[/quote]

Closest Airport that might have it is Bowie right off of RT 50 .

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[QUOTE=mooby;1233799]Lets do the mobile ad truck.[/QUOTE]It worked last time(maybe). But this one needs to say sell the team not fire bruce. Dan needs to know the anger is toward him not his bestie.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233787]Just on a quick Google flight time is $400-$500 an hour which starts when the banner is flown into the air from the airport. It said banners cost $1.75 a square foot, so figure $200 there. That was just a quick Google hit, I wonder if there is such a service close to Fedex? All you would need for 2 hours and a banner was 100 people donating the cost of their next 12 pack.[/quote]

Fuck a banner, how much for an air strike on fed ex?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1233802]It worked last time(maybe). But this one needs to say sell the team not fire bruce. Dan needs to know the anger is toward him not his bestie.

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President Trump will admit to seeking foreign help for the next election before Snyder sells the team. Let's not waste our money. Our only hope is that somehow, someway, Snyder realizes he fucked up and gets Bruce out of football ops.

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Will someone volunteer to start a donors choose or another similar online fundraising platform to raise money for signs to take to the stadium? Local DC dwellers on this page should start a standing committee on here to coordinate. Get a Facebook page going. Start sending out event requests. It could go viral like the Area 51 situation.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1233812]Will someone volunteer to start a donors choose or another similar online fundraising platform to raise money for signs to take to the stadium? Local DC dwellers on this page should start a standing committee on here to coordinate. Get a Facebook page going. Start sending out event requests. It could go viral like the Area 51 situation.[/quote]

A gofundme page to have the fans buy the team like the Packers.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233813]A gofundme page to have the fans buy the team like the Packers.[/quote]

Snyder will never sell the team. I’m talking about a real fan based push for publicly pressuring Snyder for change.