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[quote=OldRiggoFan;1237419]That's my hunch too. I'm a SEC guy, so that would be fine with me. I doubt NFL teams will know enough by draft time to risk a high draft pick on him. If he goes back to 'Bama for a year and rises back to the top, he'll be an easy first-rounder. Waiting the year will probably be worth it financially for Tua.[/quote]

I wouldn't go back. Get your money now

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1237440]Trade Kerrigan for a 4th and sign one of these 3 guys below:

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I wouldn't part with Kerrigan. It may come as a shock but I don't think the Redskins have "A damn good culture." Kerrigan needs to be kept around as a role model to the young players, as a piece to build a good culture.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1237455]I wouldn't part with Kerrigan. It may come as a shock but I don't think the Redskins have "A damn good culture." Kerrigan needs to be kept around as a role model to the young players, as a piece to build a good culture.[/QUOTE]What effect has Kerrigan had on culture since he's been here?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1237457]What effect has Kerrigan had on culture since he's been here?

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This. The New England model is the one I think we should go with. Trade them a year before they break down.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1237455]I wouldn't part with Kerrigan. It may come as a shock but I don't think the Redskins have "A damn good culture." Kerrigan needs to be kept around as a role model to the young players, as a piece to build a good culture.[/quote]

I have never agreed with this. Kerrigan should have been traded to the Ravens at the deadline. The new leaders of the team are the ones that establish culture, Payne, Allen, Guice, Haskins, McLaurin... along w/ the head coach.

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The rookie revolution showed what it can do. Mostly due to injuries, most of the veterans are out or grounded. I say: keep it that way for the rest of the season. Why play a veteran who won’t be on the team next year? Who’s old enough to know to give up.
Youth movement and rookies sink or swim in the deep end.


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Imo Haskins is not the quarterback of the future, but if Chase Young is available you have to take him.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1237682]Imo Haskins is not the quarterback of the future, but if Chase Young is available you have to take him.[/QUOTE]I agree on young. I'm not sure on Haskins tbh, let's see what he does with a new regime

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I like the young core of the offense. Give Haskins time this season to mature and find a groove and i think he will be ok. Seems like he's reading the defense better, and just a bit off on his throws. That will straighten out. The last two minutes were a good indication of poise in pressure.

I will go on a limb and say we will finish 4-12 or 5-11 and really aggravate the fan base.

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That’s a heck of a limb... packers ,eagles, cowboys are all double digit favs .. we might beat giants and Carolina ain’t a gimmie.. I wish I had your optimism..I really do not think Haskins is gonna work out and I pray I’m wrong

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1237686]I like the young core of the offense. Give Haskins time this season to mature and find a groove and i think he will be ok. Seems like he's reading the defense better, and just a bit off on his throws. That will straighten out. The last two minutes were a good indication of poise in pressure.

I will go on a limb and say we will finish 4-12 or 5-11 and really aggravate the fan base.

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Again fine line between learning how to win, and winning a game. We go 5-11 than Ill be happy. But we are going 2-14 and the two wins were against trash like us.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1237686]I like the young core of the offense. Give Haskins time this season to mature and find a groove and i think he will be ok. Seems like he's reading the defense better, and just a bit off on his throws. That will straighten out. The last two minutes were a good indication of poise in pressure.

I will go on a limb and say we will finish 4-12 or 5-11 and really aggravate the fan base.

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You must have watched the game through beer goggles.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1237693]You must have watched the game through beer goggles.[/QUOTE]



Im not sure how from the television angles people are saying he is seeing the field better? I hope he is but that is almost impossible to say unless you are seeing film.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1237693]You must have watched the game through beer goggles.[/QUOTE]Nah, I saw a young qb putting throws on tape and routes that were working.
I also think Dallas in the last game will rest their team.



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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1237712]Nah, I saw a young qb putting throws on tape and routes that were working.
I also think Dallas in the last game will rest their team.



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Dallas is such a pretender. Wins: Skins, Giants, Dolphins, Lions, Giants, Eagles. Lol.
Their wins come against teams with a combined 14-40 record. Gtfoh with them.

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There's 1 win tops left on the schedule.

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[quote=MTK;1237779]There's 1 win tops left on the schedule.[/quote]

Agree, we will still get a top 4 pick and possibly the #2 pick if we lose to NY

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If we don't finish with the second overall pick we probably won't get young. I hate to say it but winning anymore will definitely hurt our draft. I was hoping to trade down a little and still get a player we covet and get some extra picks.

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[QUOTE=Randall Nestor;1237818]If we don't finish with the second overall pick we probably won't get young. I hate to say it but winning anymore will definitely hurt our draft. I was hoping to trade down a little and still get a player we covet and get some extra picks.[/QUOTE]



Im going to keep saying that Young is a generational talent. Obviously anything can go wrong, no sure things, all that jazz. But based on what I have seen - holy smokes. That man is an absolute difference maker. I would rather have him than trade down and get two.

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Young is likely not a possibility. The skins seem to want to win games for some reason. Right now it doest seem likely they’ll get the 2nd pick


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Is there a Lamar Jackson in this draft? lol

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1237834]Young is likely not a possibility. The skins seem to want to win games for some reason. Right now it doest seem likely they’ll get the 2nd pick


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Lol. I want a million dollars and a bunch of hot blondes for breakfast this morning. Guess what?
Miami and Cincy play this year, and we are not winning another game.

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Chase young is a great prospect but a lot can happen between now and the draft. I think we will most likely have a top 4 pick which has a lot of value, but if Bruce and Dan are making the pick...they will screw it up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1237838]Is there a Lamar Jackson in this draft? lol[/quote]

we already had him in 2012...

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Jackson is way more dynamic as a runner than RG3.




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[quote=MTK;1237853]Jackson is way more dynamic as a runner than RG3.




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He is a little but Griff was scary good too his rookie yr.. If Lamar can take those hits and stay healthy he will be great but the dude is like 200 Pounds max.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1237855]He is a little but Griff was scary good too his rookie yr.. If Lamar can take those hits and stay healthy he will be great but the dude is like 200 Pounds max.[/quote]

RG3 was an accident waiting for a place to happen, it was just a matter of time before injuries took away his athletic ability. He was like the opposite of a QB who was good at protecting himself.

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Baltimore is a more complete team than we were in 2012. I just think we have seen this type of offense and it just doesn't stay sustainable. It wasn't with us or the 49ers w/ Kap. At some point Jackson is going to break down.

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Got to milk it while you can and hope your QB develops the long term skills needed.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1237859]RG3 was an accident waiting for a place to happen, it was just a matter of time before injuries took away his athletic ability. He was like the opposite of a QB who was good at protecting himself.[/quote]

Agree, he played recklessly. Pretty much had complete (unintentional) disregard for his well-being.

But intentional or not, reckless gets you hurt. That's just who he was.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1237859]RG3 was an accident waiting for a place to happen, it was just a matter of time before injuries took away his athletic ability. He was like the opposite of a QB who was good at protecting himself.[/quote]

Very true but if u watch Lamar, he doesn't really slide at all

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1237859]RG3 was an accident waiting for a place to happen, it was just a matter of time before injuries took away his athletic ability. He was like the opposite of a QB who was good at protecting himself.[/quote]


[quote=skinsfaninok;1237895]Very true but if u watch Lamar, he doesn't really slide at all[/quote]

It isn't just about sliding, some guys are just good at not getting blasted with a hard tackle because they move to lessen the blow right before they are hit. Kind of like a boxer who slips punches thrown at him. Barry Sanders was real good at that, it was rare when a tackler got a straight hard shot on him.

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Gotta be weird to backup Lamar Jackson if you're RG3. He is watching everything he was supposed to be. Jackson is clearly more talented, but a huge part of RG3s downfall was his humongous ego. Came from the Big 12 and thought he could just walk into the NFL and automatically be an elite drop back passer.

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Pretty sure Jackson will suffer the same fate as RGIII eventually. It's just a matter of time as often as he runs it. He'll get blasted at some point. He's awesome right now though...too bad they didn't convert him to receiver.lol

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[QUOTE=MTK;1237853]Jackson is way more dynamic as a runner than RG3.




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Totally. RG3 was just a sprinter. Jackson could literally play RB.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1237925]Pretty sure Jackson will suffer the same fate as RGIII eventually. It's just a matter of time as often as he runs it. He'll get blasted at some point. He's awesome right now though...too bad they didn't convert him to receiver.lol[/quote]


Running the ball in the NFL is very dangerous. No question.
But a qb throwing in the pocket with eyes down field looking for receivers, blind to DL/LB’s is just as vulnerable or more.
When running the ball, at least your eyes are looking for defenders. You can be blindsided at any time, but when running, you can also stiff arm, dive, and angle yourself to try to lessen the blow. A QB throwing the ball cannot defend themselves at all, just like a Reciever catching the ball. Exposing yourself to a defenseless situation like this over and over again will eventually catch up to you

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I think theres 4 5 star prospects Im fine with, all fill a team need.

QB Burrow
Edge Young
CB Okudah
LT Andrews

We should be in the top 4 so I feel good taking any one of these 4.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1239678]I think theres 4 5 star prospects Im fine with, all fill a team need.



QB Burrow

Edge Young

CB Okudah

LT Andrews



We should be in the top 4 so I feel good taking any one of these 4.[/QUOTE]



I’m sure Burrow will go at #1 (Bengals). I hope we get either Young at Edge or Andrew Thomas at OT. If they are gone, then it’s the best OT left. We have two holes to fill: Moses and Trent Williams.


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[quote=Warthog;1239685]I’m sure Burrow will go at #1 (Bengals). I hope we get either Young at Edge or Andrew Thomas at OT. If they are gone, then it’s the best OT left. We have two holes to fill: Moses and Trent Williams.


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I think Id keep Moses for another year. In Trents absence, it seems like he has become the vocal leader of the O line. Hes cut down drastically on his false starts. We arent in cap hell and hes on a modest enough contract. He could have a bounce back yea next year.

LT and CB1 (FS a distant 3rd) are the 3 big holes that need filled imo. Okudah has all they hype and good size (6'1" 200 lbs) to be a potential game changer on the outside.

im fine taking the best LT over the best CB .. but Im not fine w taking the second best LT over the best CB.

1st round has to be BPA over need imo.

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[quote=SunnySide;1239678]I think theres 4 5 star prospects Im fine with, all fill a team need.

QB Burrow
Edge Young
CB Okudah
LT Andrews

We should be in the top 4 so I feel good taking any one of these 4.[/quote]

They won't draft a QB so we can take that off the list.

EDGE
LT
CB

In that Order IMO