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11.6M is an expensive luxury but with us not being contenders, strange covid season ahead and plenty of cap space ... its a luxury we can afford.

Personally .. I do want to see him play in meaningful playoff games. Thats what most of these players spend their whole lives dreaming about .. then you get drafted by the Skins or Bengals or Browns or Dolphins or Jags and you end up being a Joe Thomas.

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I am starving for some real Training camp news, little clips etc ..

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[quote=MTK;1257280]In a part time role RK could be really effective getting after the passer. And you can never have enough of those guys.[/quote]

True, but just don’t want it at the expense of another player. I don’t really mind the money this year, but I would balk at an extension. I would not be onboard with that unless it’s a 1 year 6,7 million deal which would reflect that role.

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[quote=SunnySide;1257282]11.6M is an expensive luxury but with us not being contenders, strange covid season ahead and plenty of cap space ... its a luxury we can afford.

Personally .. I do want to see him play in meaningful playoff games. Thats what most of these players spend their whole lives dreaming about .. then you get drafted by the Skins or Bengals or Browns or Dolphins or Jags and you end up being a Joe Thomas.

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[B]I am starving for some real Training camp news, little clips etc .[/B].[/quote]

Dude...you and me both. Once the calendar switches from July to August, it’s fucking football season and I’m ready to go.

Also gotta say, some of these reporters need to get in gear and start providing some info.

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[quote=Chico23231;1257287]Dude...you and me both. Once the calendar switches from July to August, it’s fucking football season and I’m ready to go.

Also gotta say, [B]some of these reporters need to get in gear and start providing some info[/B].[/quote]

Im coming to the conclusion they have been completely shut out of Ashburn and wont be able to really be anywhere near the building until tomorrow for the first time.

Be nice if Julie Donaldson could be there and put out some twitter shots etc .. we saw a few last week

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Listened to the Sheehan and Ron interview

Sheehan asked him who has stood out so far who may be under the radar with Skins coming together and working...

Kevin Pierre-Louis OLB
Troy Apke S
Saahdiq Charles LT

WR...Cam Sims and Steven Sims

Montez Sweat

Also said this is the competition for left tackle: Charles, Geron Christian and Cornelius Lucas.

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I didn't realize Cam Sims is still with us, I thought we released him last year after a key drop.

Surprised to see Apke's name although, I can see him becoming an important special team player for us eventually.

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Terry is scary fast.


[url]https://twitter.com/WashingtonNFL/status/1294293323302285312[/url]

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Doesn't Cam Sims do this every year? He kills it in practice but is no where to be found once the season starts. He has the perfect opportunity to take the #2 job..

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1257350]Doesn't Cam Sims do this every year? He kills it in practice but is no where to be found once the season starts. He has the perfect opportunity to take the #2 job..[/QUOTE]


Yes he does. If he doesn’t seize the opportunity this time around, it’s hard to see him doing that. WR2 is open; I’d imagine S Sims grabs the slot.


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[quote=skinsfan69;1257350]Doesn't Cam Sims do this every year? He kills it in practice but is no where to be found once the season starts. He has the perfect opportunity to take the #2 job..[/quote]

Well he was basically a rookie last year (in 2018 suffered a season ending ankle injury in the first game of the season).

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We playing fantasy football this year?

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I am.

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Padded practices today with media. Should be a good day for twitter info

edit -- looks like JP Finaly is giving good minute updates

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Kyle Allen gets second team reps in 11v11. Alex Smith not cleared for team drills yet

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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First tight end I’ve noticed in 11v11 is Logan Thomas.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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11v11 starting now. Haskins at QB. FIrst down connection with Steve Sims. 2nd pass sailed to McLaurin and Darby breaks it up.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Something I noticed - Reuben Foster wearing a big brace on his knee. Doesn’t look like Bryce Love is wearing anything on the knee.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Watching Alex Smith - he’s zipping the ball. Footwork seems normal.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Steve sims having a good showing in 7v7. Connecting w Haskins a few times. Those two worked out together this summer and Sims said on the pod how strong he felt in the pairing

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Quick observation - DB coach Chris Harris has a lot of energy. Going thru stretches and drills with the DBs.

[url]https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor[/url]

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Alex Smith participating in 7v7 but not 11v11

videos and more on his twitter feed

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Heard some speculation in the media that Logan Thomas could be our guy at TE and really step up.


We'll see. TE is a crapshoot. Too bad there's no preseason, I'd like to see what Moss can do. He may not even make the team because we'll definitely keep 3 other TEs in Sprinkle, Thomas and Rodgers. Hale Hentges is even in the mix for another spot.

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JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Ron Rivera said he wants his team to play fast and he was disappointed at times with the tempo. Saw some good things too but he wants his guys aware of the situation and players to know their assignments.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Dwayne Haskins staying after practice and getting more work in


JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Practice is ending and Ron Rivera is dressing down his team for standing around confused during portions of drills. Delivered a loud “get in your book and study”

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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This much is obvious - D line depth is much better than O line depth


JP Finlay
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More hitting today than I expected.

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Troy Apke has gotten a ton of work with first team defense paired with Landon Collins.

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I imagine Ron Rivera yelling at you to "get in your book and study!" sounds and is received a little bit different than Jay.

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[quote=SunnySide;1257449]I imagine Ron Rivera yelling at you to "get in your book and study!" sounds and is received a little bit different than Jay.[/quote]Lol definitely. As in listen to me or I will cut you.

Interesting to hear about Apke. Know he's athletic for sure. Love hearing the reports about Haskins. Kid wants it and that is great to hear.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1257446]Heard some speculation in the media that Logan Thomas could be our guy at TE and really step up.


We'll see. TE is a crapshoot. Too bad there's no preseason, I'd like to see what Moss can do. He may not even make the team because we'll definitely keep 3 other TEs in Sprinkle, Thomas and Rodgers. Hale Hentges is even in the mix for another spot.[/quote]

I have a feeling Thomas will surprise people this fall. I know there is only a really small sample of Thomas's playing time as TE but his highlights shows how athletic he is and he isn't afraid of physical contacts. This along with the new TE coach who coached Olsen, hopefully this will translate well on the field.

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"In the first practice open to the media, one improvement jumped out under new coach Ron Rivera: There was more crispness and urgency during practice than in years past. Players hustled between drills; that wasn’t always the case in previous years. Safety Landon Collins said there was more intensity than last year. Also, at the end, coach Ron Rivera told the players a list of areas he wanted to see improved, including attention to detail. Then he told the rookies: Get more in the playbook."

John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer
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I like hearing that Rivera is pushing the players to change the lazy, slow pace, no sense of urgency attitude that existed under Gruden.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1257456]I like hearing that Rivera is pushing the players to change the lazy, slow pace, no sense of urgency attitude that existed under Gruden.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, listened to [URL="https://art19.com/shows/washington-football/episodes/7066fba0-b884-4d84-ae5b-685fd98b9626/"]this episode of Finlay's podcast[/URL] and among other interesting things I loved how Steven Sims JR repeatedly said how coach Rivera was a "there's a time for fun and there's a time for football" coach, that he wanted things done his way, and that you had do to what coach Rivera said...
You can feel in his voice it's less funny and way more strict than under Jay.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1257456]I like hearing that Rivera is pushing the players to change the lazy, slow pace, no sense of urgency attitude that existed under Gruden.[/QUOTE]


Right on the money. Many players (coming from other NFL teams) were shocked at the slow pace of practices under Gruden. In addition, Gruden was Uber-soft. Players were not challenged in his practices. In my opinion, that’s why the team always started off the season slow and they could not get up for the big games. Teams like the Patriots finished practice by running hills.

In the fighter pilot world, “You practice as you fight”. Football [emoji458] is the same, which is why I’m happy that Rivera has emphasized a fast tempo in practice, and yelled at the players who were just standing around. Killing the Gruden, lazy ass practice tempo will take a little time but players will appreciate it later when they start winning games.


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[URL="https://art19.com/shows/washington-football/episodes/aceff1f5-8d40-4f08-aba9-7a6d9d43cfee/"]Interesting episode after 1st public padded practice[/URL]

JP Finlay made a way too early bold prediction saying you can lock Wes Martin down as your starting LG. Love it !

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[SIZE="5"]Chase is throwing offensive linemen already.[/SIZE]


[url]https://twitter.com/WashingtonNFL/status/1295715896330203143[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1257480][SIZE="5"]Chase is throwing offensive linemen already.[/SIZE]


[url]https://twitter.com/WashingtonNFL/status/1295715896330203143[/url][/quote]

I expect something like this from Young in the training camp, I would be excited if he did that to Tyron Smith, Terron Armstead or Ronnie Stanley in real games.

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[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/washington-trying-be-smart-chase-young-hip-flexor-injury"]Chase Young dealing with hip injury[/URL]

Not looking too serious but still hate that feeling...

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You guys do this every year. It is practice and take it with a grain of salt. Docston was killing it in practice a few years ago, as was Pryor.. lol.

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[quote=Chico23231;1257218]Ryan Anderson is only practicing with the DE...he will not be with the LB. surprising but this is where they have him.

At this point, with Anderson, predator and Sweat...why is RK on the team? We also have 2 other young guys with some potential. Move RK finally...in a offseason of change, this is the perfect time to see if we can get a 3rd or 4th round pick.[/quote]

He should have been traded last year. He is a part time player at best right now.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1257446]Heard some speculation in the media that Logan Thomas could be our guy at TE and really step up.


We'll see. TE is a crapshoot. Too bad there's no preseason, I'd like to see what Moss can do. He may not even make the team because we'll definitely keep 3 other TEs in Sprinkle, Thomas and Rodgers. Hale Hentges is even in the mix for another spot.[/quote]

At least Thomas is an athlete. Sprinkle = LOFT - Lack of Fuckin' Talent. I don't see him making the team and he shouldn't.

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Sprinkles other problem is he counts more ($2.2m) on the cap than the others and it is the last year of his rookie deal. He has had three years to show something, I would prefer my 3rd TE to have some upside and be cheap like Moss or Hentges (sp?). I don't think there is enough talent there to warrant keeping a fourth TE, if we need a replacement during the season those on the FA market are going to be just as good I think. So if he is not the starter of principle backup/blocking TE I don't think you can justify keeping him at that salary.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257510]You guys do this every year. It is practice and take it with a grain of salt. Docston was killing it in practice a few years ago, as was Pryor.. lol.[/quote]

The problem with pessimists like you is that you are usually right (lol). I guess that makes you a realist, now that I think about.

Although I tend to think like you during the regular season, right now I prefer to be overly optimistic about the players and root for them to succeed. I love it when young men like Terry McLaurin and Matty Ice establish themselves as quality NFL players.

I'd like to know which developing young players and 2020 draftees you think could emerge as significant contributors to the team.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1257509][URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/washington-trying-be-smart-chase-young-hip-flexor-injury"]Chase Young dealing with hip injury[/URL]

Not looking too serious but still hate that feeling...[/quote]

If Chase gets hurt this team will never be good again , that karma would just be too much to defeat

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257511]He should have been traded last year. He is a part time player at best right now.[/quote]

When he needs to step in because an injury, you'll be glad we have depth that talented.

That's been a big problem for this team for years, great Week 1 lineup on paper, but no depth and we're decimated by injuries. Every year it's the same story, "we would have had a great year if (these guys) had not been hurt!

This year's defense is loaded with depth, no reason to trade it away just because we have too many bodies at a position. We'll need him.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1257521]When he needs to step in because an injury, you'll be glad we have depth that talented.

That's been a big problem for this team for years, great Week 1 lineup on paper, but no depth and we're decimated by injuries. Every year it's the same story, "we would have had a great year if (these guys) had not been hurt!

This year's defense is loaded with depth, no reason to trade it away just because we have too many bodies at a position. We'll need him.[/quote]

Agreed. He's really shown signs of improvement last year, I think he's at least a quality depth guy.

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JP Finlay
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Last two 11v11 drills have included a pick. One for Haskins one for Allen. There have also been some dropped INTs.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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The WFT offense looks bad today. Haskins. Allen. Pretty much everybody.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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59m
Poor period continues for Haskins - had a ball batted down and then gets knocked down on next snap. Offensive line depth is a problem

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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1h
Ok back to 11v11 with Haskins at QB - not looking great. Sweat just got around the corner and stripped him. Keep in mind neither starting tackle on the field.

JP Finlay
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I’ve been able to process everything I’ve seen so far with Alex Smith but seeing him evade actual rush was just wild to me. I’m kinda shocked. He looked fluid. Footwork was fine. Of course he wasn’t gonna get hit but anything could have happened with guys falling at his feet.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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1h
3 snaps for Alex Smith against a real pass rush. No tackles or D-ends but Smith had to move in the pocket with DT pressure. That was wild to see honestly. Smith went 2 of 3 with two nice completions and one kinda ugly miss.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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1h
Alex Smith taking reps with defensive linemen on the field. This is new.
Not 11v11 but 9v9.

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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Nice TD connection from Haskins to McLaurin in red zone work. Motion away from Sims created a tight opening and Haskins fired it in

JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
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1st team Tackles for first 11v11 drills
LT - Cornelius Lucas
RT- Timon Parris
(Christian and Moses are resting. No sign of Charles.)

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O line ... will it compromise anything we try and do on offense like it has for the past 2 years? With injuries and playing TE as o line ... its been a real rough 2 years.

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Must admit to being a little disappointed that Saddiq Charles hasn't yet made an appearance with no mention of any injury, he dropped in the draft due to off field issues and has the LSU connection which has to be a littke concerning

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Given the nature of this offseason I think it's going to be tough for any of the rookies to break through and start right off the bat.

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Im on the "its way to early to tell but I just dont think Saahdiq Charles will amount to anything" train. Seems like another wasted mid round pick like Geron Christian.

Chances of getting a starting caliber LT after round 2 = very low. Take a G or C at that point, much higher success rate.

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Lol only a few days into the training camp, we are already labeling rookies a bust?