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AnonEmouse 01-07-2021 12:21 PM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1272581]Poor him, wonder how he's gonna go to his game...[/QUOTE]

Better get his skates on...

Number44 01-07-2021 01:02 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1272571]They literally just rescheduled my son's hockey game to 8pm Saturday night, jesus christ.[/quote]

League commissioner must be a Giants fan.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2021 01:19 PM

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErJIyQyXEAArMe5?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Chico23231 01-07-2021 01:46 PM

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Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians said Mike Evans (knee) is a game-time decision for the Wild Card game against Washington.
Evans reportedly did some work in the training room on Thursday and felt "ok." Arians also said if Evans is out there, that's a terrific sign he's healthy. Although his status will likely come down to the wire, it sounds as if Evans will be more than just a decoy or big threat inside the red zone if healthy. He remains an intriguing low-rostered option for any postseason fantasy contests.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2021 01:49 PM

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I doubt Evans misses this game, the guy I worry the most about is Gronk.. He's a match up issue for us

skinsfaninok 01-07-2021 02:11 PM

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Rivera said Alex Smith was "still a little sore. I wish we had an extra day just to be sure. We'll see how he is tomorrow morning and go from there."

I don't see him playing Saturday if he is sore tomorrow

mredskins 01-07-2021 02:49 PM

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[quote=Number44;1272597]League commissioner must be a Giants fan.[/quote]

LOL!

On a side note we see Vinny's son Charlie alot. His son is a amazing hockey player.

Chico23231 01-07-2021 03:05 PM

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Heinicke reportedly took the majority of the first-team snaps on Thursday.

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2021 03:05 PM

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Just a pang of side frustration. Could you imagine the difference if our drafted qb was even slightly above average. I think that's the hope for next year but just reflecting on the dependency on AS at this point is so dang frustrating even with how good our record has been with him.

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2021 03:23 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1272609]Heinicke reportedly took the majority of the first-team snaps on Thursday.[/quote]

That should mean he has gotten 2 or 3 solid weeks of reps, not the best for going into a playoff game, but hopefully enough.

Chico23231 01-07-2021 03:41 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272612]That should mean he has gotten 2 or 3 solid weeks of reps, not the best for going into a playoff game, but hopefully enough.[/quote]

If we see Heineken Saturday shit went sideways. I still believe Alex starts no matter what.

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2021 04:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1272614]If we see Heineken Saturday shit went sideways. I still believe Alex starts no matter what.[/QUOTE]If we don't see Heinicke we lose, nothing against Alex but right now he can't throw the deep ball. The game will be very reminiscent of the RG3 Seahawks game and I don't want that for Alex or the team.

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SunnySide 01-07-2021 04:34 PM

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LUGZ wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:27 am
I think this game is a test of our coaching and gameplanning more than anything.

Has the past four weeks given Arians false confidence about our passing attack? Will he just have Brady launching it every other play with no regard to the pass rush?

We can easily gameplan around the front 4 of the Redskins, but will we? Slants, bubble screens, RB/TE screens, shallowing crossing routes. Couple that with a lot of rush attempts and suddenly Chase Young can't get to Brady. All our deep stuff needs to come from PA or with heavy protection sets.

Now, if we start doing a bunch of empty backfield 4 and 5 WR looks and leave Smith one on one, then that's a recipe for disaster and a clear indicator that coaching is still an achilles heel of this team.

On the defensive side of the ball, we have no excuse. Unless we have a bunch of turnovers or bad special teams which leads to poor field position, there's no reason why our defense should give up more than 10-13 points against this putrid Redskins offense.

I'm confident in our roster being leagues ahead of the Redskins, but I'm still nervous about the coaching.
[url]https://buczone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6768&start=360[/url]

Pretty good take from a Bucs fan. Weve seen teams play quick ball on us all year and while it does limit their QBs exposure to our pass rush ... its also a big reason we have the leagues #2 pass defense allowing only 191.8 passing yards/game.

Be interesting to see how it plays out. Sure Bucs can play quick ball ... but will they win raking up 200 passing yards on a 21/32 type performance? Can Arians and TB stick to being conservative and safe?

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2021 04:58 PM

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1272616]LUGZ wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:27 am

I think this game is a test of our coaching and gameplanning more than anything.



Has the past four weeks given Arians false confidence about our passing attack? Will he just have Brady launching it every other play with no regard to the pass rush?



We can easily gameplan around the front 4 of the Redskins, but will we? Slants, bubble screens, RB/TE screens, shallowing crossing routes. Couple that with a lot of rush attempts and suddenly Chase Young can't get to Brady. All our deep stuff needs to come from PA or with heavy protection sets.



Now, if we start doing a bunch of empty backfield 4 and 5 WR looks and leave Smith one on one, then that's a recipe for disaster and a clear indicator that coaching is still an achilles heel of this team.



On the defensive side of the ball, we have no excuse. Unless we have a bunch of turnovers or bad special teams which leads to poor field position, there's no reason why our defense should give up more than 10-13 points against this putrid Redskins offense.



I'm confident in our roster being leagues ahead of the Redskins, but I'm still nervous about the coaching.

[url]https://buczone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6768&start=360[/url]



Pretty good take from a Bucs fan. Weve seen teams play quick ball on us all year and while it does limit their QBs exposure to our pass rush ... its also a big reason we have the leagues #2 pass defense allowing only 191.8 passing yards/game.



Be interesting to see how it plays out. Sure Bucs can play quick ball ... but will they win raking up 200 passing yards on a 21/32 type performance? Can Arians and TB stick to being conservative and safe?[/QUOTE]The one part that I think gives us a fighting shot is our defense is very disciplined. Since Brady is pretty immobile we can have the back end heavily protected with safety help. Gronkowski, as someone said, is the thorn in the plan.

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ODUsmitty 01-08-2021 12:12 AM

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If Taylor gets to play, many of the off-season discussions could possibly change dramatically. Let's say he stinks up the joint, Smith would have equally earned the L just with more shallow cuts. If he holds his own, but loses to the goat, then we have our backup, at worst. But imagine the story if he plays hard and well and gives us a chance to win. Draft discussions change significantly, as Heinicke has very little tread worn off the tires, and investments can be made at OL and LB that are needed. I love an underdog story, and as an ODU and WFT fan, am damned thrilled that the best QB in FCS could possibly lead my Redskins to a playoff win. This is fun stuff, and house money. I hope RIverboat Ron is ambitious in his game aspirations.

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 12:24 AM

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[quote=ODUsmitty;1272644]If Taylor gets to play, many of the off-season discussions could possibly change dramatically. Let's say he stinks up the joint, Smith would have equally earned the L just with more shallow cuts. If he holds his own, but loses to the goat, then we have our backup, at worst. But imagine the story if he plays hard and well and gives us a chance to win. Draft discussions change significantly, as Heinicke has very little tread worn off the tires, and investments can be made at OL and LB that are needed. I love an underdog story, and as an ODU and WFT fan, am damned thrilled that the best QB in FCS could possibly lead my Redskins to a playoff win. This is fun stuff, and house money. I hope RIverboat Ron is ambitious in his game aspirations.[/quote]

Interesting article and breakdown on him:

[url]http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/2015-nfl-draft/2015/03/19/nfl-draft-profile-old-dominion-qb-taylor-heinicke/[/url]

KI Skins Fan 01-08-2021 07:00 AM

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[quote=ODUsmitty;1272644][B]If Taylor gets to play, many of the off-season discussions could possibly change dramatically.[/B] Let's say he stinks up the joint, Smith would have equally earned the L just with more shallow cuts. If he holds his own, but loses to the goat, then we have our backup, at worst. But imagine the story if he plays hard and well and gives us a chance to win. Draft discussions change significantly, as Heinicke has very little tread worn off the tires, and investments can be made at OL and LB that are needed. I love an underdog story, and as an ODU and WFT fan, am damned thrilled that the best QB in FCS could possibly lead my Redskins to a playoff win. This is fun stuff, and house money. I hope RIverboat Ron is ambitious in his game aspirations.[/quote]

I sincerely doubt that, Mrs. Heinicke.

AnonEmouse 01-08-2021 07:05 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1272645]Interesting article and breakdown on him:

[url]http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/2015-nfl-draft/2015/03/19/nfl-draft-profile-old-dominion-qb-taylor-heinicke/[/url][/QUOTE]

Which leads me to think he will only ever be a backup; his arm strength and issues with dealing with pressure/crowded pockets, means he's always at risk of interception in pressured situations. He didn't face those really against Carolina but he would definitely face them if playing Saturday. There's no indication he's overcome the problem with pressure, so right now I'd say Smith is the better 'risk' unless he's a total statue back there.

On the other hand, we have nothing to lose, so maybe if Smith can't go he might make the game entertaining, if not at least gives us a chance?

Chico23231 01-08-2021 10:07 AM

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Chico keys to the game:

1. Move Brady off his spot in the pocket and do not let him stand tall. Advance stats this year says he will make careless throws, let’s increase the chance.
2. The defense has to hold to field goals in the red zone. The way we win is if we hang around...the key to hanging around is 4th down stops and red zone defense.
3. With the offense struggling, a big play on defense and/or special teams would be huge. It’s tough to say we must score, but if an opportunity presents itself, make the play.
4. We need our receivers to catch the ball and help out our QB. Too many drops in the last month by JD, Logan Thomas, And the Sims brothers. They need to make the tough plays and block in the run game. Pass catchers need to come to play.
5. If we ever needed to run the ball, it’s this game. You need to help out your injured QB..run the ball as a unit. Turner needs to have a run game ready

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 10:22 AM

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[url]https://youtu.be/X7HBlah8tE0[/url]

skinsfaninok 01-08-2021 02:26 PM

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[url]https://www.washingtonjourney.com/thecampaign/[/url]

This is sick

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 06:40 PM

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10 players who helped Washington to the playoffs. What do they have in common? Kyle Smith acquired 7 of the 10 through the draft and FA.

[url]https://www.washingtonfootball.com/news/washington-football-standouts-2020-playoffs?fbclid=IwAR0b2MERWukt_f9VT3RZYWTFUxCXDkKL1wTWY0jM3feXv_kc2Kg5lDCpjPc[/url]

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 06:46 PM

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Our OL has improved this year, you know why? When you have to practice and scrimmage against our defense they have to get better in order to survive. Let’s see how they do against Tampon Bay?

Chief X_Phackter 01-08-2021 07:21 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1272729]Our OL has improved this year, you know why? When you have to practice and scrimmage against our defense they have to get better in order to survive. Let’s see how they do against Tampon Bay?[/quote]

I'm sure that does make them better.

punch it in 01-08-2021 08:19 PM

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It is all about Scott Turner calling plays that cater to our offense. He has a problem with that. Usually. If he calls the right plays based on our healthy personnel than we win. We need to score more than 20 points and we got a punchers chance.
Don’t get cute. Don’t try to do too much with what you got. Grind out yards and know when to take a shot. If he goes run run pass all day we are doomed.

skinsfaninok 01-08-2021 09:43 PM

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The Washington Football Team will have more answers in the morning, but there is a real chance QB Taylor Heinicke ends up starting vs the #Bucs, sources say. Alex Smith’s calf is still sore and hasn’t loosened up. Heinicke took the majority of snaps and is ready if needed.

Rap sheet

Chief X_Phackter 01-08-2021 09:56 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1272733]It is all about Scott Turner calling plays that cater to our offense. He has a problem with that. Usually. If he calls the right plays based on our healthy personnel than we win. We need to score more than 20 points and we got a punchers chance.
Don’t get cute. Don’t try to do too much with what you got. Grind out yards and know when to take a shot. If he goes run run pass all day we are doomed.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm not interested in coming out and trying to establish a running game. Quick slants, screens, double screens, RB wheel routes, RB in the flat, take some shots down the field when they present themselves... Pass to set up the run.

Bears beat them with a total of 35 yards rushing. No sense beating your head against the wall. "Matriculate" the ball down the field with the short passing game and use clock.

sdskinsfan2001 01-08-2021 10:12 PM

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If he is still sore, Alex should not be playing. I'm gonna be pissed if we waste half this game to find out what we already know, he is not healthy enough to play well. Especially against the type of defense the Bucs have.

The beer man is going from off the streets to starting a playoff game in approximately 1 month. I fucking love sports.

ODUsmitty 01-08-2021 11:15 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1272648]I sincerely doubt that, Mrs. Heinicke.[/quote]

Yeah, I am a bit of a homer when it comes to Heinicke, and admit it. As a guy that saw the kid start and excel for four years at ODU, this is a helluva lot of fun.

However, care to make this discussion more interesting? If Heinicke plays a quarter or more, I'd wager that his QB rating is 80 or higher, and my wager, gentlemanly, of course, I'll change my screen name to your "Mrs. Heinicke" if he fails to produce. However, if I am correct and the kid plays well, what are you willing to wager, gentlemanly, of course?

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 11:30 PM

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Oh what a surprise!! More ammo for keeping Kyle:

[url]https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2021/01/06/washington-had-nfls-most-valuable-non-qb-rookie-class-for-second-straight-year/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NFLdraftmaverickMike&fbclid=IwAR2FCevlkdWanVpFMfudc1JJMuJCMlax3gb3as8d4FdTtZWFT76o9rsNtFk[/url]

CRedskinsRule 01-08-2021 11:35 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1272747]Oh what a surprise!! More ammo for keeping Kyle:

[url]https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2021/01/06/washington-had-nfls-most-valuable-non-qb-rookie-class-for-second-straight-year/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NFLdraftmaverickMike&fbclid=IwAR2FCevlkdWanVpFMfudc1JJMuJCMlax3gb3as8d4FdTtZWFT76o9rsNtFk[/url][/quote]

A lot of hope for the next few years. Let's keep it going this year tomorrow!

SFREDSKIN 01-08-2021 11:47 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272748]A lot of hope for the next few years. Let's keep it going this year tomorrow![/quote]

We haven't seen what Charles, AGG, Ismael, Harmon, can do after a full camp. We've seen flashes from Martin, Hudson, Smith-Williams, I still think Love will pan out. Just need that elusive QB.

rocnrik 01-09-2021 01:13 AM

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My take ... Alex wins games for us not because of any great physical ability.. in fact he really can’t move .. he wins games by getting the ball out quick to the playmakers..there is not a throw that Alex makes that the Kid can’t make .. add in his ability to buy some time with his legs I have no worry that he has the skill to win this game IF and it’s a huge IF .. He has to understand that he does not need to be a hero and win the game by himself.. play like Smith would .. if it ain’t there either run or toss it in the stands.. if he starts and does that we have a chance ..

sdskinsfan2001 01-09-2021 01:31 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1272750]My take ... Alex wins games for us not because of any great physical ability.. in fact he really can’t move .. he wins games by getting the ball out quick to the playmakers..there is not a throw that Alex makes that the Kid can’t make .. add in his ability to buy some time with his legs I have no worry that he has the skill to win this game IF and it’s a huge IF .. [B]He has to understand that he does not need to be a hero and win the game by himself[/B].. play like Smith would .. if it ain’t there either run or toss it in the stands.. if he starts and does that we have a chance ..[/quote]

At this point I'm assuming he is starting, and this is the key to have any chance. Limit turnovers, take what is there, and if not throw it away or get as many yards scrambling as you can.

Summo 01-09-2021 09:01 AM

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I apologize in advance if someone already said this but they are wearing white at home tonight!

BaltimoreSkins 01-09-2021 09:17 AM

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The single most important thing Alex will bring tonight IMO is his leadership. The record when he starts is what it is because the rest of the team has confidence with him under center.

SunnySide 01-09-2021 09:32 AM

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Anyone else have trouble falling asleep last night, maybe it was the average Indian food I had.

Chico23231 01-09-2021 10:09 AM

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Alex Smith (questionable, calf) is "trending the wrong way" for Saturday's Wild Card game against the Bucs.


Smith will be evaluated before Saturday's game. He's on the wrong side of questionable after pushing through his calf injury in Week 17. At this point, it would be surprising if Smith plays, but Washington will likely take his status to game-time


It’s rapport who wrong a lot, still something to watch

punch it in 01-09-2021 10:22 AM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1272743]Yeah, I'm not interested in coming out and trying to establish a running game. Quick slants, screens, double screens, RB wheel routes, RB in the flat, take some shots down the field when they present themselves... Pass to set up the run.



Bears beat them with a total of 35 yards rushing. No sense beating your head against the wall. "Matriculate" the ball down the field with the short passing game and use clock.[/QUOTE]



Exactly screens screens and more screens. A mobile Heineken should help open up more options. McKissic is key. Seems like our offense is best when he is being used out of the backfield alot.

punch it in 01-09-2021 10:28 AM

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As for Heineken...he may not ever be a long term solution or even a backup BUT I just have this weird feeling he is going to catch lightning in a bottle tonight - he looked good against Carolina and now he had a weeks worth of first team reps. There is a chance against Carolina it all happened so fast that his nerves didn’t have a chance to get the best of him. I think he has known all week that at the very least he is playing some of the game. Hopefully nerves aren’t the problem with this kid and it is just raw talent. That is half the battle. The other half is him catching that lightning in a bottle and playing the best game of his life. Just like the old man in caddy shack.


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