Re: Predicting the final 53
 

I think the TE depth is much better this year than last. The fact is we got 2 rookies there who need to get work and experience. I’d rather be in this situation where we like two young guys enough than to trade for Zack Ertz.

The eye opener of where there is a roster issue, LB. We got 4 and this was a spot where everyone said after last year we need to get better. Welp we got 4 and one of those is Bostic. That’s a problem, especially considering that Davis will need time to grow.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

I bet we add at least 2 LBS.

Roberts, RSJ, and Carter can't rest easy until kickoff on week 1. 2 out of 3 of those guys will likely be gone to make room for LBs.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Not necessarily, if they get the three LBs they cut back onto the PS they may rely on bringing one up each week to the game day roster as permitted by the rules. They may have just figured they stood a better chance of getting them to the PS than some of the guys they kept. I hope to hell though that isn't the case.
I think Toohill and maybe one other (Reyes?) will be sent to short term IR to facilitate signing new linebackers or even for resigning Peyton Barber to the 53 for that matter

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Interesting, neither Jimmy Moreland or AGG were claimed on waivers, I am a little surprised but I suppose it is always a case of fans overrate the quality of the players on the back end of the roster.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1288708]Interesting, neither Jimmy Moreland or AGG were claimed on waivers, I am a little surprised but I suppose it is always a case of fans overrate the quality of the players on the back end of the roster.[/QUOTE]


AGG is on the practice squad, but Moreland isn’t. Moreland may have been claimed. Anyone know?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=calia;1288712]AGG is on the practice squad, but Moreland isn’t. Moreland may have been claimed. Anyone know?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Redskins claimed then put him on IR.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/washington-football-team-signs-15-players-for-the-practice-squad/ar-AANZrEW?ocid=uxbndlbing[/url]

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Most of our players signed back with us:
Daniel Wise
William Bradley-King
Gabe Wright
Bunmi Rotimi
Jordan Kunaszyk
Jared Norris
Jeremy Reaves
Danny Johnson
David Steinmetz
Wes Martin
Keith Ismael
Beau Benzschawel
Jon Toth
Antonio Gandy-Golden
Peyton Barber

All signed back.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Moreland and Sharpe…anyone heard an update? I think they were the 2 best players cut yesterday sans Reeves.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1288719]Moreland and Sharpe…anyone heard an update? I think they were the 2 best players cut yesterday sans Reeves.[/QUOTE]Not sure about Sharpe,, but Moreland was claimed and put on IR.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Bryan Manning
Wed, September 1, 2021, 12:43 PM

The Washington Football Team trimmed its roster to 53 players on Tuesday. One of the biggest questions surrounding the initial 53-man roster was why Washington kept just four linebackers?

Washington coach Ron Rivera met with the media after the team announced the 53-man roster, and he was asked about keeping four linebackers. His response likely means Washington will continue to monitor the linebacker either through free agency or trade.

"We're not through with that position. It's a position we're constantly evaluating," Ron Rivera on the linebacker group, and only having four at the moment

— Rhiannon Walker (@InstantRHIplay) August 31, 2021

Late on Tuesday, Tony Pauline of Pro Football Network reported that Washington was one of two teams, along with the New York Jets, interested in veteran linebacker Benardrick McKinney.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/washington-interested-veteran-linebacker-benardrick-164349431.html[/url]

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

WFT Move:
Forrest to IR
LB Mayo re-signed

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1433191943828381699?t=rB-gfMN1RM2-Qd8IFtL07w&s=19[/url]

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Check out our [URL="https://www.washingtonfootball.com/team/players-roster/"]Practice squad[/URL]: apart from Moreland pretty much every noticeable cut has been brought back, AGG, Reaves, Barber, Martin, Bradley-King, Ismael, Danny Johnson... I don't think I've known that many names from our PS before :laughing-

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1288777]Check out our [URL="https://www.washingtonfootball.com/team/players-roster/"]Practice squad[/URL]: apart from Moreland pretty much every noticeable cut has been brought back, AGG, Reaves, Barber, Martin, Bradley-King, Ismael, Danny Johnson... I don't think I've known that many names from our PS before :laughing-[/quote]

Moreland is back but on IR.

Must admit, most years I'd expect about 6-7 from our own camp roster plus 3-4 from other releases. This year they obviously haven't seen anyone else released that's better than our own guys. Hopefully that's a good sign.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1288777]Check out our [URL="https://www.washingtonfootball.com/team/players-roster/"]Practice squad[/URL]: apart from Moreland pretty much every noticeable cut has been brought back, AGG, Reaves, Barber, Martin, Bradley-King, Ismael, Danny Johnson... I don't think I've known that many names from our PS before :laughing-[/quote]

Expanded practice squad is weird. Basically seems like everyone that made it to the last round before being cut gets added to the PS.

And teams go with the familiar and just bring back their own guys for the PS.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1288779]Moreland is back but on IR.

Must admit, most years I'd expect about 6-7 from our own camp roster plus 3-4 from other releases. This year they obviously haven't seen anyone else released that's better than our own guys. Hopefully that's a good sign.[/quote]

That is the half full approach. Must admit I look at from the half empty approach, I am amazed none of our roster (which I thought was talented) was valued by 31 other teams to bring them onto their squad. Only Steven Montez was given a spot, and QB is always overvalued. That none of the WRs or DL was taken says something, and it's not good.

That said the neutral portion of it is that our culture and team building is positive enough that if players had a choice of Practice Squads and teams, and I am sure some did, they chose to stay here.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288801]That is the half full approach. Must admit I look at from the half empty approach, I am amazed none of our roster (which I thought was talented) was valued by 31 other teams to bring them onto their squad. Only Steven Montez was given a spot, and QB is always overvalued. That none of the WRs or DL was taken says something, and it's not good.

That said the neutral portion of it is that our culture and team building is positive enough that if players had a choice of Practice Squads and teams, and I am sure some did, they chose to stay here.[/quote]

It's still only the second year of our rebuild and we've come much farther than I expected. We're still working on the overall team depth but we seem to have upgraded some units since last season.

[B]Specifically, here where I hope you'll agree we've probably gotten better:[/B]

Defensive Backfield
Offensive Line
Wide Receiver
Tight End

[B]Units that might be a little better:[/B]

Quarterback - Hard to say at this point and we still need that "Franchise" QB.
Running Back - Ummm, I dunno. We'll see.
Defensive Line - We got Matty I back at DT but lost Ryan K at DE. Backup DE's seem to be weak.

[B]Units that seem to be about the same:[/B]

Linebacker - Wafer thin depth.

[B]Units that might have slipped a notch:[/B]

Special Teams - K seems to be declining. PR/KR sucks, as usual.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Rick Snider's Washington Retweeted
WFT News
@wftnews1
·
1h
Ron Rivera closes his presser saying, (loosely), ‘I’m about about to give you something to write about but I don’t want to go into that right now… and I know y’all are gonna text me to find out.”

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

lol Ron clearly likes to play with the media

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
·
30m
Former #Seahawks LB KJ Wright is, in fact, heading to the #Raiders on a 1-year. A move they had been hoping for in Vegas

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1288779][B]Moreland is back but on IR.[/B]

Must admit, most years I'd expect about 6-7 from our own camp roster plus 3-4 from other releases. This year they obviously haven't seen anyone else released that's better than our own guys. Hopefully that's a good sign.[/quote]

I don't see him there. He has a knee bruise, don't see him going to IR for that.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288801]That is the half full approach. Must admit I look at from the half empty approach, [B]I am amazed none of our roster (which I thought was talented) was valued by 31 other teams to bring them onto their squad.[/B] Only Steven Montez was given a spot, and QB is always overvalued. That none of the WRs or DL was taken says something, and it's not good.

That said the neutral portion of it is that our culture and team building is positive enough that if players had a choice of Practice Squads and teams, and I am sure some did, they chose to stay here.[/quote]

Yeah that surprises me too.
But kudos to our coaching staff for knowing who they could cut and still get back on the PS...

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1288851]I don't see him there. He has a knee bruise, don't see him going to IR for that.[/QUOTE]It is weird in that it's not really listed anywhere but I here is a link from cbs fantasy
[url]https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/football-teams-jimmy-moreland-placed-on-injured-reserve/[/url]

Says that since he cleared waivers he reverted to our IR.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210903/036738591ac7e1e2bb1a2e20d8f8fe9e.jpg[/IMG]

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1288829]Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
·
30m
Former #Seahawks LB KJ Wright is, in fact, heading to the #Raiders on a 1-year. A move they had been hoping for in Vegas[/QUOTE]


Micah Kiser? He’s another LB I’d imagine RR might consider.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288853]It is weird in that it's not really listed anywhere but I here is a link from cbs fantasy
[url]https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/football-teams-jimmy-moreland-placed-on-injured-reserve/[/url]

Says that since he cleared waivers he reverted to our IR.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210903/036738591ac7e1e2bb1a2e20d8f8fe9e.jpg[/IMG]

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Mmmh, interesting. It sounds more like an automatic rules that makes him de facto be on our IR after clearing waivers with an injury designation rather than the team actually bringing him back. That would be why he's not mentioned on the team's website...
What I don't know is if other teams can sign him or not...

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1288875]Mmmh, interesting. It sounds more like an automatic rules that makes him de facto be on our IR after clearing waivers with an injury designation rather than the team actually bringing him back. That would be why he's not mentioned on the team's website...

What I don't know is if other teams can sign him or not...[/QUOTE]Yeah, it sounds automatic, but opens up questions like: is that why we only have 15 practice squad members? Or Is he eligible to return at some point?

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288877]Yeah, it sounds automatic, but opens up questions like: is that why we only have 15 practice squad members? Or Is he eligible to return at some point?

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Yop, really weird situation. I'm surprised he cleared waiver, and this create an, if not never seen, at least never noticed situation... am I wrong ?

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Barber signs with the Raiders


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=calia;1288913]Barber signs with the Raiders


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Wow. Welp good luck to Barber…he dominated getting those 3/4th and 1

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1288885]Yop, really weird situation. I'm surprised he cleared waiver, and this create an, if not never seen, at least never noticed situation... am I wrong ?[/quote]

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2021/09/02/washington-football-team-reason-behind-jimmy-moreland-release-difficult-swallow/[/url]

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1288919][url]https://riggosrag.com/2021/09/02/washington-football-team-reason-behind-jimmy-moreland-release-difficult-swallow/[/url][/quote]

I love how the author says Moreland has a "ball-hawking knack". What? So he's not really a ball hawk, but he has the knack for being one... OK...

BTW, he had one interception in 30 games. He must have had a bunch of "almost interceptions" though.

Anyway, I like Moreland, he is a great story and seems like a good dude. While I was surprised with the release, I wasn't blown away. I was equally surprised that they kept 4 tight ends, only 4 linebackers, and released AGG.

A year ago, we were looking at:
Kendall Fuller
Ronald Darby
Jimmy Moreland
Danny Johnson
Fabian Moreau
Greg Stroman

Now we have:
Kendall Fuller
William Jackson III
Benjamin St-Juste
Torry McTyer
Darryl Roberts
Troy Apke

Honestly, the secondary looks to be much improved (on paper) in my opinion. If you replace one of the six CBs currently on the roster with Moreland, I'm not sure that he makes the secondary any better.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1288920]I love how the author says Moreland has a "ball-hawking knack". What? So he's not really a ball hawk, but he has the knack for being one... OK...

BTW, he had one interception in 30 games. He must have had a bunch of "almost interceptions" though.

Anyway, I like Moreland, he is a great story and seems like a good dude. While I was surprised with the release, I wasn't blown away. I was equally surprised that they kept 4 tight ends, only 4 linebackers, and released AGG.

A year ago, we were looking at:
Kendall Fuller
Ronald Darby
Jimmy Moreland
Danny Johnson
Fabian Moreau
Greg Stroman

Now we have:
Kendall Fuller
William Jackson III
Benjamin St-Juste
Torry McTyer
Darryl Roberts
Troy Apke

Honestly, the secondary looks to be much improved (on paper) in my opinion. If you replace one of the six CBs currently on the roster with Moreland, I'm not sure that he makes the secondary any better.[/quote]

All I know is Moreland made some big plays in different games last year, keeping Apke over him was stupid even if Apke is good on ST.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

When you are talking about your 4th, 5th, and 6th CBs, the deciding factor is almost always Special Teams. A lot of people just don't like Apke, but obviously the coaches do.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1288921]All I know is Moreland made some big plays in different games last year, keeping Apke over him was stupid even if Apke is good on ST.[/quote]

We kept Moreland too. He's on our injured reserve - put there post cut period so he is eligible to return after 3 weeks.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=nonniey;1288924]We kept Moreland too. He's on our injured reserve - put there post cut period so he is eligible to return after 3 weeks.[/quote]

Read the link I posted above, he’ll be playing elsewhere.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1288927]Read the link I posted above, he’ll be playing elsewhere.[/QUOTE] I posted an article that said he was waived with an injury designation, once he cleared waivers he fell back onto our team as an IR'd player. Seems like no real clarification is out there.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

Here is a definition of waived - injured from [url]https://www.nj.com/giants/2016/09/what_does_it_mean_when_an_nfl_player_is_waivedinju.html[/url]
[Quote]
Vested veterans can be put directly on injured reserve without being exposed to waivers. This is what the Giants did with fifth-year offensive lineman Byron Stingily, who was placed on injured reserve on Tuesday with a concussion.

*Up until*the first cut-down day, which was Tuesday, injured non-vested players must be placed on waivers through the waived/injured designation before being placed on injured reserve. This prevents teams from stashing young players on injured reserve. Once a waived/injured player clears waivers, he reverts to the team's IR.
[/Quote]

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288928]I posted an article that said he was waived with an injury designation, once he cleared waivers he fell back onto our team as an IR'd player. Seems like no real clarification is out there.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Ben standing wrote this, makes it sound like he'll be playing elsewhere. I would love it if it's us:

@BenStandig
Regarding CB Jimmy Moreland and the waived/injury designation. He suffered a knee bruise, per source. Minor injury. Should be ready for Week 1. Which team, that's tbd.

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288929]Here is a definition of waived - injured from [url]https://www.nj.com/giants/2016/09/what_does_it_mean_when_an_nfl_player_is_waivedinju.html[/url]


Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Interesting, so yeah, if they wanted to put him on IR, they didn't need to waive him... so I don't know exactly how reliable that IR info is...

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

NFL.com transactions has Moreland going to our IR on 9/1

[url]https://www.nfl.com/transactions/league/reserve-list/2021/9?after=c2ltcGxlLWN1cnNvcjc0[/url]
That link may take you to game pass ad but here is a picture of the screen capture.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210904/8ab8e6f009289d95082f0fcb15a86078.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Predicting the final 53
 

This looks like the definitive resolution on Jimmy Moreland:

[url]https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sports/articles/jimmy_moreland_and_washington_agree_to_injury_settlement/s1_16457_35800337[/url]

[QUOTE]Moreland was initially waived on Aug. 31 during final roster cuts with an injury designation due to a knee bruise. The injury is considered minor and he was expected to be ready for Week 1. He cleared waivers reverting back to Washington with the option of him going on injury reserve or agreeing to an injury settlement.

Now, Moreland will be subjected to waivers. If he goes unclaimed by 4:00 PM ET Tuesday, he becomes a free agent and is free to sign with any other team in the NFL.

If he doesn’t land elsewhere, Washington could re-sign him. However, they would have to wait an additional three weeks after Week 1 to bring him back. Although those odds seem low.[/QUOTE]