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Call up Houston and make a big offer for Watson. If you look at our cap space going forward we can handle he contract

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[quote=punch it in;1295173]He said that? Honestly I really have had enough of this guy. Not only is he a poor coach, but he seems to be in deep deep denial about it. He must think we just started watching football also. I used to preface these comments with “he is a nice guy” and all that jazz but so is my Dad and I don’t ever want him coaching my football team because of that.

Does he realize his seat is getting warmer? I mean for God sakes Ron bench someone (named Landon Collins), or fire someone. Take play calling away from someone. Curse out the damn dude selling expensive beers. Anything. Just enough with this “i see improvement “ bullshit. Either he is a fucking liar or he is more god damn oblivious to what is transpiring in game than what I thought.[/quote]

yeah he said it on his conf call today... I Know he has to be positive but cmon man

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295172]and here is our answer...

Ron Rivera made it very clear: no changes on D with scheme change/coaching moves, etc. "That makes no sense to me right now."

Keim[/quote]

At least move Collins to LB and Bench Mccain

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1295180]yeah he said it on his conf call today... I Know he has to be positive but cmon man[/QUOTE]


Positive is “we are going to keep working until we get better”.
Calling yesterday an improvement isn’t positive it is oblivious. I do not want oblivious.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1295183]At least move Collins to LB and Bench Mccain[/QUOTE]


“Dont fix it if it’s broken”! Wait…..

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NFL LIVE Just now "The Chiefs schedule gets easier starting Sunday" LMAO

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295191]NFL LIVE Just now "The Chiefs schedule gets easier starting Sunday" LMAO[/quote]

Yeah, D Hall said this is their "get right" game.

He's not wrong.

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Do the Cowboys have any better talent than we do on defense? I know we don't have anyone like Diggs but it's not like they have tons of talent on d, yet they have seemed to right the ship.

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[quote=chief x_phackter;1295193]yeah, d hall said this is their "get right" game.

He's not wrong.[/quote]

56 - 13

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295197]Do the Cowboys have any better talent than we do on defense? I know we don't have anyone like Diggs but it's not like they have tons of talent on d, yet they have seemed to right the ship.[/quote]

I don't think they have better talent. Statistically the two teams are pretty even on the defensive side, with the exception of turnovers. They are forcing 3x as many turnovers as Washington. That makes a huge difference, and is a true complement to their offense that is averaging 34 points a game.

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Can anyone imagine if we drafted Herbert. I can daydream... the entire franchise is going in a totally different direction.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295206]Can anyone imagine if we drafted Herbert. I can daydream... the entire franchise is going in a totally different direction.[/quote]

Implying Justin Herbert would stop the defense from giving up back-to-back-to-back 4 td games? F

Heinicke is obviously not the long term solution unless he makes some serious progress before the end of the season, but I'm slightly more worried about this absolute sieve of a defense we're putting out there.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295164]Ron "I thought we were better in coverage yesterday" LMAO!!!! WHAT????[/quote]

Ok, he should never say that after loss where the D surrendered 33 points, a massive blown coverage and a Hail Mary.

But. I don't disagree with this statement. That's why I'm specifically mad at Collins and Fuller. I think the rest of the guys, while not being nearly as good as needed nor expected, did a better job than the previous weeks.

Also, I'm not sure why Jamin Davis is getting roasted here. He didn't play much and I thought he made a couple of plays.

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[quote=mooby;1295209]Implying Justin Herbert would stop the defense from giving up back-to-back-to-back 4 td games? F

Heinicke is obviously not the long term solution unless he makes some serious progress before the end of the season, but I'm slightly more worried about this absolute sieve of a defense we're putting out there.[/quote]

I agree … also a lot of us were banking on a great D to make life easier for Taylor .. as bad as he was Sunday you take away the Hail Mary and the easy bomb and even with his mistakes we could have won … we would need a top 5 Qb to overcome this D ..

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[QUOTE=mooby;1295209]Implying Justin Herbert would stop the defense from giving up back-to-back-to-back 4 td games? F

Heinicke is obviously not the long term solution unless he makes some serious progress before the end of the season, but I'm slightly more worried about this absolute sieve of a defense we're putting out there.[/QUOTE]


100 percent. Defense is biggest problem. However if I could go back in time im drafting herbert.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1295211]I agree … also a lot of us were banking on a great D to make life easier for Taylor .. as bad as he was Sunday you take away the Hail Mary and the easy bomb and even with his mistakes we could have won … we would need a top 5 Qb to overcome this D ..[/QUOTE]


Yeah. Seriously. And Herbert is right now. I like Heineke. If we are talking about the Saints game though Herbert wins it even with the hail mary and other long pass. Heineke was bad.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295206]Can anyone imagine if we drafted Herbert. I can daydream... the entire franchise is going in a totally different direction.[/quote]

Something tells me he would suck here but man he sure does look great.

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Just draft a QB in 2022 and take our chances. Keep drafting 1 until you hit. We need a fucking QB.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1295217]Just draft a QB in 2022 and take our chances. Keep drafting 1 until you hit. We need a fucking QB.[/QUOTE]This

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We need a coaching staff that brings out the best of our roster. This staff clearly isn't.
Firing everybody now doesn't do much. But something has to change, quick.
Belichick and more recently Vrabel from the Titans showed you can coach around not so great roster and have success.
This defense is playing way below what they should be. As much as I think Collins sucks here, he was not that bad for the Giants. As much as I think Fuller sucks right now, he played well for us last time.
As much as WJ3 is disappointing right now, he was excellent last year with the Bengals.
As much as CY is having a disappointing season so far, he was a beast last year.

Something is off in the locker room. Something is off between the defense and their coach(es).

I have no issue with the disciplinarian "our way or the highway" approach... But you gotta be ready to actually do it. For now it's "our way or ... could you please have a look at our playbook before next week game?".
You wanna be old school disciplinarian ? Bench guys who don't listen, regardless of their draft/salary status. If you're not ready/able to do that, then adapt to your players strength.
Right now they look like weak ass moms going "but I swear he's a good kid, give me one more week and I'll swear he'll behave"... After their shitty child drew dicks on the classroom's wall 3 weeks in a row.

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It's all about winning.

You can coach all sorts of different ways if you are winning.

We never win shit, so for us it seems like all the styles suck.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1295162]Three consecutive quarterbacks (Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, and Jameis Winston) have thrown four touchdowns against Washington, a historic level of failure matched by only three defenses in the history of the league. Others: 2011 Giants, 1986 Oilers, 1980 49ers.[/QUOTE]


Well Mahomes won’t. Oh wait….


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Good coaching makes average rosters into good teams

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1295261]Good coaching makes average rosters into good teams[/quote]

Agree. Looking back at Ron's tenure in Carolina, they way underachieved with one of the best QBs in the league. Now he has a bad QB and a below average roster so not surprisingly the results aren't good. Right now I think its 50-50 that Ron makes it to year 4 of his contract.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1295261]Good coaching makes average rosters into good teams[/quote]

Yep look at The Ravens, that Defense is battered and beaten up with unjuries and they still win. The Offense literally has 2 weapons and no run game at all and they still win. F You Ron and Co

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1295261]Good coaching makes average rosters into good teams[/quote]

The reverse is also true

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What I'm wondering is what state of mind this team will be in after the next four games where they face three of the best quarterbacks ever to wear an NFL jersey? I believe that all four of the teams they will play are significantly better than the WFT and; therefore, it is probable that the WFT will lose all four of these upcoming games.

What sort of pablum could RR try to feed us then?

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1295274]The reverse is also true[/QUOTE]


True but it’s alot easier to acquire one good coach than 53 or so good players…..

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1295315]What I'm wondering is what state of mind this team will be in after the next four games where they face three of the best quarterbacks ever to wear an NFL jersey? I believe that all four of the teams they will play are significantly better than the WFT and; therefore, it is probable that the WFT will lose all four of these upcoming games.

What sort of pablum could RR try to feed us then?[/QUOTE]


Something like “the guys should have been more aware of who they were playing “
“There will be no changes made, they just have to do better and im not sure why they aren’t. We have alot of talent it just isn’t translating onto the field and I don’t know why. What’s for dinner?”

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[quote=punch it in;1295325]Something like “the guys should have been more aware of who they were playing “
“There will be no changes made, they just have to do better and im not sure why they aren’t. [B]We have alot of talent it just isn’t translating onto the field[/B] and I don’t know why. What’s for dinner?”[/quote]

You were so close to winning off the field

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1295258]It's all about winning.

You can coach all sorts of different ways if you are winning.

We never win shit, so for us it seems like all the styles suck.[/quote]

LOL we are all battered spouses at this point...

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1295329]LOL we are all battered spouses at this point...[/QUOTE]


See! And there is no divorce available! Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1295335]See! And there is no divorce available! Lol[/quote]

I secretly hope they would name the team the "Presidents" Or something just so bad I can walk away

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBhBuh_XIAg9TbQ?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Keim posted this

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Sounds like Ron is saying "get ready to suck this yr"

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Winning the division at 7-9 was probably the worst thing that could have happened in terms of expectations for this year and getting a 1st place schedule. It's only year 2 of Rivera rebuilding this thing and we're clearly not a team that was ready to butt heads with the elite teams of the league.

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[quote=MTK;1295354]Winning the division at 7-9 was probably the worst thing that could have happened in terms of expectations for this year and getting a 1st place schedule. It's only year 2 of Rivera rebuilding this thing and we're clearly not a team that was ready to butt heads with the elite teams of the league.[/quote]

Yeah after reading that I do agree with him but it also puts a reality on this season.. 7 wins would be a surprise now.

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Turned on sirius just in time for Ron. “We were out of position a little bit on the hail mary”. “We have to find out why”

Omfg. Let me respond Ron. No shit and because you are starting the wrong people in the wrong places!

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1295349]I secretly hope they would name the team the "Presidents" Or something just so bad I can walk away[/QUOTE]


LOL! That would qualify as a way out!

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1295352][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBhBuh_XIAg9TbQ?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Keim posted this[/QUOTE]


Well we should have lost to the Giants and the defense sucked against ATL too. Wouldn’t call them tough opponents Ron. Dont tell me the Saints are any fuckin good either. Giants don’t have anywhere near the talent at D end we do and they didn’t shit the bed against him. Chase Young and Sweat were better last year and that includes the bad teams and the good ones. The schedule is nothing but an excuse. The fact of the matter is you are not a very good coach. Your coordinators are not good either. In summary you and your staff is fuckin garbage.