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[quote=skinsfaninok;1313010]He's a funny dude and a team guy, OU players LOVED that dude. Is he an Elie QB? No but in the right system he can be solid[/quote]He's a much better qb than last year indicated due the shoulder issue. He recently had surgery on the shoulder also. Mayfield to Houston and picks for Watson is sound more possible by the minute.

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[quote=Chico23231;1312999]Dallas is cutting and trading…turning around and then signing some big deals[/quote]

They have a bunch of cap room, albeit by pushing dollars onto future years but if you look at their current cap position they have 14 players with more than a $2m cap hit, Washington has 21. And the first 7 names on Washington's list are very average players by league standards.

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The Falcons have emerged as a sleeper team to acquire Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, league sources tell
@mortreport
and me. The Falcons join the Panthers, Saints and Browns as teams that have met with, or are interested in, trading for Watson. More to come on ESPN.

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[quote=mredskins;1313011]Funny everyone wants Wentz to be that, I say Wentz is the better QB then Baker.[/quote]

I think they are pretty equal. I'd rather have Baker. But Wentz is better than what we had in 2021. So we have upgraded the position regardless.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1313016]The Falcons have emerged as a sleeper team to acquire Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, league sources tell
@mortreport
and me. The Falcons join the Panthers, Saints and Browns as teams that have met with, or are interested in, trading for Watson. More to come on ESPN.[/quote]

Just read, albeit on PFT, that this may be a ruse by the Falcons to drive up the price for Watson as they don't have the cap space to trade Ryan and then pick up Watsons contract. The two main contenders, Panthers and Saints, are in the same division. Seems a bit far fetched, but funny if true.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1313020]I think they are pretty equal. I'd rather have Baker. But Wentz is better than what we had in 2021. So we have upgraded the position regardless.[/quote]I would much prefer Wentz. Bigger, better runner, less emotional, and just think he has more overall passing talent. Coaches can't coach what Wentz offers. This is why I liked the trade regardless of any purported issues.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313022]Just read, albeit on PFT, that this may be a ruse by the Falcons to drive up the price for Watson as they don't have the cap space to trade Ryan and then pick up Watsons contract. The two main contenders, Panthers and Saints, are in the same division. Seems a bit far fetched, but funny if true.[/quote]I'd be surprised if he considers Atlanta. Atlanta isn't very close to winning a SB and doubt they could get a lot for Ryan. I like Cleveland as the fav right now if they both sides are willing to do the deal. Just his best situation to walk into for overall team talent and stability.

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Ravens sign S Marcus Williams

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1313031]Ravens sign S Marcus Williams[/quote]

Kind of hoped we'd be in play for him, would have locked down the back end

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313037]Kind of hoped we'd be in play for him, would have locked down the back end[/quote]Starting to wonder if/when we will get going in FA. The real talent is being scooped up quickly.

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The MLBs aren't being snapped up yet, so still hope for some positive movement

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1313039]Starting to wonder if/when we will get going in FA. The real talent is being scooped up quickly.[/quote]

We are so cheap now, it sucks

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1313049]We are so cheap now, it sucks[/quote]

Look at our cap , we are paying some very average players some very large numbers

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313046]The MLBs aren't being snapped up yet, so still hope for some positive movement[/quote]Campbell re-signed with GB. Hicks and Myles Jack are available. A stud, big mlb would help our defense immensely.

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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
·
18m
The #Vikings have agreed to terms with LB Jordan Hicks, source said.

Dammit

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And I thought the Vikings didn't have much $ to play with. Maybe we don't either now that Wentz is on board. Hicks would have been a good addition.

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@AdamSchefter
Former Texans’ QB Tyrod Taylor intends to sign a two-year, $17 million deal, including $8.5 million guaranteed with the New York Giants, per source.

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Ha Ha!!

He will be the starter by week 5.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1313103]Ha Ha!!

He will be the starter by week 5.[/quote]

As long as it's after we play Washington.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1313103]Ha Ha!!

He will be the starter by week 5.[/quote]

That's a lot of money for a backup. This might be a move for legitimate competition for D.J.

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[quote=Giantone;1313104]As long as it's after we play Washington.[/quote]

Why did they offer more to Tyrod than Trubisky?

Taylor is reportedly signing a two-year deal worth $17 million with $8.5 million in guaranteed money. The full structure of the contract is not clear, but it’s more than the base value of the deal that Mitch Trubisky

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Nice to hear the new Giants FO is carrying on where Gettleman left off, long may it continue

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313101]@AdamSchefter
Former Texans’ QB Tyrod Taylor intends to sign a two-year, $[B]17 million deal, including $8.5 million guaranteed[/B] with the New York Giants, per source.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

I thought Gettleman was gone?

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[quote=Chico23231;1313107]Why did they offer more to Tyrod than Trubisky?

Taylor is reportedly signing a two-year deal worth $17 million with $8.5 million in guaranteed money. The full structure of the contract is not clear, but it’s more than the base value of the deal that Mitch Trubisky.
chico you really are an idiot!


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It’s a 2-year deal worth $11M, source said — $5.5M per year. There are incentives he’d have to hit to bring it to $17M.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1313105]That's a lot of money for a backup. This might be a move for legitimate competition for D.J.[/quote]

would be, if it was true.

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[quote=Chico23231;1313109]I thought Gettleman was gone?[/quote]

You neve thought a day in your life.

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[quote=Giantone;1313115]would be, if it was true.[/quote]

Man, your loyalty to Daniel Jones is amazing.

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[URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/inside-linebacker/all/"]Jordan Hicks signed in Minnesota for 5M/yr[/URL]

[URL="https://www.wokv.com/sports/action-sports-jax/report-myles-jack-being-released-by-jacksonville-jaguars/U645FGA62VCLJDZBILIHO74PKM/"]Myles Jack cut by the Jags ![/URL] Still only 26, I'd make cap magic and bring him in at pretty much any cost !

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1313118]Man, your loyalty to Daniel Jones is amazing.[/quote]

LOL, wanna go back and see some of your posts about Dwayne Haskins? TT knows the Offense at 33 he isn't the starter and any that think so are fooling themselves, he is a back up QB. I hope DJ does well I like the kid hopefully the O line will be improved if not we shop next year, like you guys will be.

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Jags shopping spree so far:

Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
#Jaguars spending spree big board:

WR Christian Kirk: 4 years, $72M
G Brandon Scherff: 3 years, $49.5M
LB Foye Oluokun: 3 years, $45M
CB Darious Williams: 3 years, $30M
DT Foley Fatukasi: 3 years, $30M
WR Zay Jones: 3 years, $24M
TE Evan Engram: 1 year, $9M

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313172]Jags shopping spree so far:

Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
#Jaguars spending spree big board:

WR Christian Kirk: 4 years, $72M
G Brandon Scherff: 3 years, $49.5M
LB Foye Oluokun: 3 years, $45M
CB Darious Williams: 3 years, $30M
DT Foley Fatukasi: 3 years, $30M
WR Zay Jones: 3 years, $24M
TE Evan Engram: 1 year, $9M[/quote]

The deal for Kirk is just ridiculous

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313172]Jags shopping spree so far:

Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
#Jaguars spending spree big board:

WR Christian Kirk: 4 years, $72M
G Brandon Scherff: 3 years, $49.5M
LB Foye Oluokun: 3 years, $45M
CB Darious Williams: 3 years, $30M
DT Foley Fatukasi: 3 years, $30M
WR Zay Jones: 3 years, $24M
TE Evan Engram: 1 year, $9M[/quote]

if they are .500 next year i be shocked

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313172]Jags shopping spree so far:

Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
#Jaguars spending spree big board:

WR Christian Kirk: 4 years, $72M
G Brandon Scherff: 3 years, $49.5M
LB Foye Oluokun: 3 years, $45M
CB Darious Williams: 3 years, $30M
DT Foley Fatukasi: 3 years, $30M
WR Zay Jones: 3 years, $24M
[B]TE Evan Engram: 1 year, $9M[/B][/quote]

9 mil for a 53.5 PFF grade, 67 targets only 46 catches, 408 yds 3 tds .... and I dont think he is an aggressive endline blocker.

wow

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[quote=MTK;1313173]The deal for Kirk is just ridiculous[/quote]

Warren Sharp had a stat with Kirk on the field with and without Hopkins. He will need someone to roll coverage off him

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[quote=SunnySide;1313180]9 mil for a 53.5 PFF grade, 67 targets only 46 catches, 408 yds 3 tds .... and I dont think he is an aggressive endline blocker.

wow[/quote]

Another 1st round bust, and most had him as a Kelce type...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1313195]Another 1st round bust, and most had him as a Kelce type...[/quote]

1st round TEs havent had a great track record past 10 years or so

Pitts balled out in his rookie season but so many under performers Ebron (10th overall), Hurst (25th), Howard (19), Engram (23), Njoku (29)

Hockenson and Fant are good players but Logan Thomas 2020 season eclipsed them and I dont think have lived up to 1st round pick production. Hockenson and Fant are young and could well be top 5 TEs in a few years.

I wouldnt draft a TE in the top 15, ever.

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If you think of the top TE over the last decade, Kittle, Ertz, Kelce, I don't think any were first rounders.

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Speaking of TEs:

@NFL
Browns to release TE Austin Hooper. (via @TomPelissero)

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313260]Speaking of TEs:

@NFL
Browns to release TE Austin Hooper. (via @TomPelissero)[/quote]

i just mentioned him in a earlier post, he was our Barbie dream date a few years back now we have Logan Thomas on a much more friendly team contract.

Perfect example of not chasing the big fish in FA.

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[quote=MTK;1313173]The deal for Kirk is just ridiculous[/quote]

It's hard to understand that deal. He's not a bad receiver, but that's such a massive overpay. Do the Jags have a different cap ceiling than the rest of us?