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Enjoy yourself, its later than you think.



(VA and DC had rises in vehicle deaths last year .. be safe on the road. Buy a dash camera, try not to change lanes unnecessarily, wait a second and look both ways before going on a green from a red)

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I fully understand those who are looking at this with the prevailing thought being what a shame, and no amount of picking apart what happened will make it any less sad and tragic. But I'm just not personally built that way. Someone dies who I care about, or who I once cared about, even if only for his being a player on my favorite team, I want to understand what happened.

Knowing won't bring him back but I still want to know. Understanding that Sean Taylor died defending his family from a break-in brought me an even greater understanding of who he was as a person, something that can sometimes be hard through the media.

I've never run out of gas either. But I have a hard time seeing how anybody can conclude that trying to cross an interstate is a remotely safe thing to try to do. Mooby the layout of the highway was known - he wasn't stranded in the left lane like an HOV around DC - he was in the right shoulder and when he crossed he was reported as being in the middle of the right lane and eventually struck there.

Seems like it was either a moment of incredibly poor judgment, or a moment of impaired judgment. Sad no doubt but I still want to know which.

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Enjoy yourself, its later than you think.



(VA and DC had rises in vehicle deaths last year .. be safe on the road. Buy a dash camera, try not to change lanes unnecessarily, wait a second and look both ways before going on a green from a red)[/quote]

And most of all, drive 65 in the left lane to keep traffic from going too fast. Be the change you want to see in the world.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1315221]I'm not trying to make sense of it really. Dude joins the long list of those that died too young, and that sucks. Beyond that I don't need it to "make sense".

Maybe he tried to cross the road, because that was the quickest way to the nearest gas station.

Maybe he was so drunk he thought the dump truck [I]was[/I] the gas station.

Maybe he didn't see the truck, or he misjudged how much time he had to cross, because the truck was speeding.

Maybe he didn't hear the truck because he had earbuds in.

Maybe he was just smoked from a long day and wasn't thinking clearly.

Who knows? It's all speculation at this point. [B]I guess I just don't understand why people are so eager to see that toxicology report, or put all the pieces of the puzzle together, other than to hopefully validate their theories that he was a shit bag and made bad decisions until he finally perished because of one of them.[/B]

Let the young man RIP.[/quote]

With this attitude accidents would never be investigated. The puzzle pieces need to be put together, not to validate personal bias, but to learn lessons about how things happen and why so changes can be implemented that reduce or eliminate the factors that cause the accident. Hopefully the causes of this accident can be put together so that no other family has to go through something so awful.

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[quote=irish;1315251]With this attitude accidents would never be investigated. The puzzle pieces need to be put together, not to validate personal bias, but to learn lessons about how things happen and why so changes can be implemented that reduce or eliminate the factors that cause the accident. Hopefully the causes of this accident can be put together so that no other family has to go through something so awful.[/quote]

Nailed it. Anytime I hear of a death I like to learn the circumstances because there's often a lesson to be learned. Maybe it's a lesson we all know well and good already, but still doesn't hurt to reinforce it.

I don't want to die young. I especially don't want my daughters to die young. So if I see a risky behavior resulted in a death, you're damn right I use it as an example with my kids of what can happen when you fail to think.

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[quote=irish;1315251]With this attitude accidents would never be investigated. The puzzle pieces need to be put together, not to validate personal bias, but to learn lessons about how things happen and why so changes can be implemented that reduce or eliminate the factors that cause the accident. Hopefully the causes of this accident can be put together so that no other family has to go through something so awful.[/quote]

nailed it

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IMO(nothing more) If the Police are satisfied and his Family is satisfied and from the last report I heard they are, then while we might want to know how what and why it's really none of our business.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315249][B]And most of all, drive 65[/B] in the left lane to keep traffic from going too fast. Be the change you want to see in the world.[/quote]

In school zones and parking lots, great advice.

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Single victim accident with no 3rd parties effected ... put me in the camp that just wants to respect the grieving families privacy.

Saying we need to know Haskins toxicology so we can sit down with our kids to pass on lessons learned so no pedestrian will ever be killed again .. blah blah blah.

Public doesnt need to know his toxicology report. Its a private matter.

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I'd argue it wasn't just a single victim accident, unless we are just assuming the dump truck driver isn't traumatized at all

We didn't need the 9/11 call but it's public info

It's inevitable we're going to hear about the toxicology report too

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[quote=SunnySide;1315267]In school zones and parking lots, great advice.

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Single victim accident with no 3rd parties effected ... put me in the camp that just wants to respect the grieving families privacy.

Saying we need to know Haskins toxicology so we can sit down with our kids to pass on lessons learned so no pedestrian will ever be killed again .. blah blah blah.

[B]Public doesnt need to know his toxicology report. Its a private matter.[/B][/quote]

Well that's sum booshit. If he was drunk or high, that means he was driving drunk on a public highway. Because you can't get your car stranded on the side of the road and come up with a toxicology result without having driven it there under the influence. Ergo, in the event of such a toxicology report, he broke the law.

And all police reports are public information. Toxicology report is part and parcel to it.

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[quote=MTK;1315268][B]I'd argue it wasn't just a single victim accident, unless we are just assuming the dump truck driver isn't traumatized at all[/B]

We didn't need the 9/11 call but it's public info

It's inevitable we're going to hear about the toxicology report too[/quote]

The dump truck driver is 100% a victim. I work with railroad safety and when locomotive engineers are involved in striking pedestrians who are trespassing on the track its very traumatizing for them. Also any witnesses to the accident can be traumatized and need counselling. People don't live in vacuums and accidents never result in a single victim.

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[quote=SunnySide;1315267]In school zones and parking lots, great advice.

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Single victim accident with no 3rd parties effected ... put me in the camp that just wants to respect the grieving families privacy.

[B]Saying we need to know Haskins toxicology so we can sit down with our kids to pass on lessons learned so no pedestrian will ever be killed again .. blah blah blah. [/B]

Public doesnt need to know his toxicology report. Its a private matter.[/quote]

I'm saying the toxicology report is only one piece of the puzzle. Unfortunately for the family its not a private matter. Once the police investigation began everything is on the table and part of the public record. Its called transparency.

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[quote=SunnySide;1315267]
Saying we need to know Haskins toxicology so we can sit down with our kids to pass on lessons learned so no pedestrian will ever be killed again .. blah blah blah. [/quote]

Nailed it.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315272]Well that's sum booshit. If he was drunk or high, that means he was driving drunk on a public highway. Because you can't get your car stranded on the side of the road and come up with a toxicology result without having driven it there under the influence. Ergo, in the event of such a toxicology report, he broke the law.

And all police reports are public information. Toxicology report is part and parcel to it.[/quote]

I don’t understand why people want to give Haskins a pass here. If people wanted to constantly prop this dude up as some sort of role model, then we need some honesty. We are all kinda willfully ignoring past mistakes he made here, if there is a pattern then it needs to be called out.

I need the full story of Haskins that morning, cause this shit ain’t adding up.

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Both things can be true, we can feel awful about a young man needlessly losing his life, and we can also question the decisions that led up to it.

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[quote=MTK;1315282]Both things can be true, we can feel awful about a young man needlessly losing his life, and we can also question the decisions that led up to it.[/quote]

100%

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[quote=MTK;1315282]Both things can be true, we can feel awful about a young man needlessly losing his life, and [B]we can also question the decisions that led up to it.[/B][/quote]

Of course both can be true.

But what exactly is the point of that part of it?

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All this shit is cute but let's get back to the real world.

A dump truck driver has to file an insurance claim and possibly submit his own toxicology report to his employer.

A second car also has to file an insurance claim after hitting Haskins ricocheting body.

Toxicology reports are important for those that are involved, except for the stripper asleep in Haskins car.

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[quote=jamf;1315285]All this shit is cute but let's get back to the real world.

A dump truck driver has to file an insurance claim and possibly submit his own toxicology report to his employer.

A second car also has to file an insurance claim after hitting Haskins ricocheting body.

Toxicology reports are important for those that are involved, except for the [B]stripper asleep in Haskins car.[/B][/quote]

Lol…She just need to be tested for STDs and the ability to balance a quarter on her ass.

I like when these guys get together for a “team activity/workout” and they tell their significant other we gotta fly to South Beach to do it.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1315284]Of course both can be true.

But what exactly is the point of that part of it?[/quote]

That's like asking what's the point of this site

It's what we do

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Not really. Not the same.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but the man's last moves or purported decisions that led to his tragic death just don't matter to me. It obviously does matter to some though. Hopefully y'all can use that information to save others...

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[quote=Chico23231;1315280]I don’t understand why people want to give Haskins a pass here. If people wanted to constantly prop this dude up as some sort of role model, then we need some honesty. We are all kinda willfully ignoring past mistakes he made here, if there is a pattern then it needs to be called out.

I need the full story of Haskins that morning, cause this shit ain’t adding up.[/quote]

No, no you don't . The only people that need or deserve any answers are his family and the two other drivers involved.

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[quote=Giantone;1315291]No, no you don't . The only people that need or deserve any answers are his family and the two other drivers involved.[/quote]

Doesn't matter. The toxicology question will be made public, so we'll be getting our answers, and we'll do with them whatever we please. Up to and including judging Dwayne Haskins for being a foolish, irresponsible, immature fuckup; if that's indeed the conclusion that toxicology results point to.

Y'all are some Myers Briggs Ps, I'll tell you what. But it's a J's world and you're living in it.

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Also jamf you need to post more. The dry subtle humor goes underappreciated.

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[quote=Schneed10;1315292]Doesn't matter. The toxicology question will be made public, so [B]we'll be getting our answers, and we'll do with them whatever we please. Up to and including judging Dwayne Haskins for being a foolish, irresponsible, immature fuckup[/B]; if that's indeed the conclusion that toxicology results point to.

Y'all are some Myers Briggs Ps, I'll tell you what. But it's a J's world and you're living in it.[/quote]

It's pretty clear that is what you are hoping for. Good luck man.

It's definitely a J's world.

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[URL="https://www.wbal.com/article/563109/179/911-calls-released-as-investigation-into-dwayne-haskins-death-continues"]https://www.wbal.com/article/563109/179/911-calls-released-as-investigation-into-dwayne-haskins-death-continues[/URL]

“Kalabrya Haskins, who was calling (911) from Pittsburgh and unaware of the accident, told a Florida Highway Patrol dispatcher on April 9 that her 24-year-old husband had called from near Fort Lauderdale to say he was walking to get gas and would call her back. When he didn't, she told the dispatcher she tried to call him but he wasn't answering.”

1. Dwayne Haskins had a working cell phone.
2. He called his wife to tell her was walking to get gas.

Why did he not use his cell phone to get an Uber to drive him anywhere? He could have called a tow truck or looked up the local county road assistance number. Last option he could have called Police.
She called 911. That is a big red flag. Who calls 911 for a spouse that just ran out of gas?

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[quote=MTK;1315238]First of all how does someone run out of gas? Never understood that especially with most cars these days that will tell you how many miles you have left.[/quote]

I work in the automotive maintenance industry, the gauge being off due to fuel sending units failing is somewhat common. Common enough to keep 1 or 2 in stock. It's not unheard of.

Or Dwayne could be an idiot that forgot to fill up the tank. Either/or - he obviously made a terrible mistake just by walking on the highway and he paid for it with his life.

I'm with the others on this one - I don't feel the need to do a deep dive on this. It was a terrible accident and he made a fatal mistake. He's not the first and won't be the last. Hopefully everybody who paid attention to this learned from his mistake and maybe that means we'll see less pedestrian deaths on highways. Maybe not - but life goes on.

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Dwayne? You good bro?

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Tragic indeed…

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Nothing to do with the accident but this is just weird...

"The parents of Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins say they will not attend his funeral services on Friday.

“We have never met or spoken to the wife, and we didn’t want our son’s funeral service to be the place we met her for the first time,” says Dwayne Sr. and Tamara Haskins in a statement."

[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html[/URL]

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[quote=davy;1315308]Nothing to do with the accident but this is just weird...

"The parents of Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins say they will not attend his funeral services on Friday.

“We have never met or spoken to the wife, and we didn’t want our son’s funeral service to be the place we met her for the first time,” says Dwayne Sr. and Tamara Haskins in a statement."



[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html[/URL][/quote]

This is weird AF. I mean…strange


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As Ted "Theodore" Logan would say. Strange things are afoot in Pittsburg

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[quote=Schneed10;1315304]Dwayne? You good bro?

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grow the fuck up

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[quote=SunnySide;1315319]grow the fuck up[/quote]

You know the offseason is way too quiet when I'm bitching about emoji hashflags and the Schneed is doing a deep dive on how a former Redskin/back up Steeler ended up walking on a highway...

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1315312]As Ted "Theodore" Logan would say. Strange things are afoot in Pittsburg[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=Schneed10;1315304]Dwayne? You good bro?

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Stay Classy

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1315323]Stay Classy[/quote]

S10 been a dick for too long , people just put up with his shit, this was low class. Not remotely funny.

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[quote=davy;1315308]Nothing to do with the accident but this is just weird...

"The parents of Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins say they will not attend his funeral services on Friday.

“We have never met or spoken to the wife, and we didn’t want our son’s funeral service to be the place we met her for the first time,” says Dwayne Sr. and Tamara Haskins in a statement."

[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-113812202.html[/URL][/quote]

Gonna take a wild guess, parents didn't approve of him marrying her, parents don't like her and damn sure don't wanna meet her for the first time at their son's funeral. Otherwise why risk the backlash that surely is gonna happen from announcing they won't be at their son's funeral.

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[quote=mredskins;1315327]S10 been a dick for too long , people just put up with his shit, this was low class. Not remotely funny.[/quote]

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Ok I laughed, dammit