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If Holcolmb or Davis go down with injury, I will find out where Rivera lives and take the biggiest steamiest shit the world has ever seen on his porch.

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At first I was not happy about bringing back Bostic. I wanted to see a 'sexier' move. But after further review, I'm not sure any of the other LBs who were or are available would have been a much bigger upgrade, and maybe not a good fit - which is important. We're talking about a backup / part time LB here. Bostic is capable, familiar with a lot of the players/coaches, and he knows the system.

Health is always a big factor, but on paper, it's probably as good or a better defensive roster than what they had in 2020 when they were top 5.

BTW, nobody has a starting caliber LB waiting on the bench. There's a reason all these LBs everyone keeps mentioning are still out there.

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Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1320820]Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.[/QUOTE]


Think the giants just got a younger guy and the money mAde sense. Martinez healthy is awesome- with one leg still better than Bostic. It would be insanity not to bring him in. Imo.

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Would he go inside then, and kick Holcomb back outside? I'm not sure of the fit, if they like Holcomb as the Mike.

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Holcomb is a jag imo. But either of them are better than Bostic regardless of where they line up.

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We have alot of question marks.

QB - huge question mark.
RB - Gibson cant hold on to the ball. BR is obviously on hold.
WR - should be ok - but Samuels is always one fart away from an injury, Dotson looks like he maybe the real deal though he is a rook, Sims is a question mark.
O - line should be ok.
DL - should be ok.
LB’s - [emoji2961]
K - meh.
TE - will LT return to form? Can anyone else step up if not?
DB’s - big what if.

Just a whole lot of what if’s.
I know we kid about code reds but the first two weeks are so important. If we cant beat them with a mainly healthy team we are in deep doo doo as the season gets more difficult and the injuries increase. We win the first two and maybe a nice boost of confidence will spark us.

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Almost every team, if not every team, has question marks and "what if's" somewhere. While I respect your opinion, I don't think we are as bad off as you do.

Here's my assessment:

On offense, RB is the only question mark thanks to those DC hoodlums. That said, Gibson, McKissic, and Williams are more than capable of handling the load. Just depends on if AG puts the ball on the ground or not.

QB, WR, OL, TE - all good.

We are in such a better place at QB this year than last. Wentz is a major upgrade, whether people want to believe that or not. He's had two not-so-great years - his rookie year, and 2020 on a bad Philly team (it's hard to be a good QB when you are sacked [B][U]50[/U][/B] times in 12 games) Their O-line was absolutely terrible. Other than that it's been like 27-33 TDs / 7 INTs per year.

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On defense, literally the only weak link I see (and I'm not even sure it is yet) is the LB group. Holcomb in the middle, and Davis in year two and in his more natural position may be the ticket. We won't know for a couple weeks.

CB, S, DL, DE - all good

We're deep in the secondary in my opinion, especially at safety, and a couple of those safeties can also play CB in a pinch.

D line should be one of the best in the league. DE, especially once Young comes back should be good.

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I think if the O-line stays healthy and is as good as it has been the last couple years, there's no reason this team can't put up 25+ points per game. Doing that and staying on the field more will only help the defense. This is at least a 10 win team - if they stay relatively healthy.

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Question mark doesn’t necessarily mean bad. Just that Im not going to say we are all good there until I see it.

I don’t really disagree with anything you said either, though I think DB’s are a little less promising than you do.

I sure hope you are right, and I am wrong. Deep down inside I sense a 6-7 win season. But on the surface I am brimming with confidence and sense a 10 win miracle season that takes us into the playoffs. Lol. Its why they play the game.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1320835]Almost every team, if not every team, has question marks and "what if's" somewhere. While I respect your opinion, I don't think we are as bad off as you do.



Here's my assessment:



On offense, RB is the only question mark thanks to those DC hoodlums. That said, Gibson, McKissic, and Williams are more than capable of handling the load. Just depends on if AG puts the ball on the ground or not.



QB, WR, OL, TE - all good.



We are in such a better place at QB this year than last. Wentz is a major upgrade, whether people want to believe that or not. He's had two not-so-great years - his rookie year, and 2020 on a bad Philly team (it's hard to be a good QB when you are sacked [B][U]50[/U][/B] times in 12 games) Their O-line was absolutely terrible. Other than that it's been like 27-33 TDs / 7 INTs per year.



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On defense, literally the only weak link I see (and I'm not even sure it is yet) is the LB group. Holcomb in the middle, and Davis in year two and in his more natural position may be the ticket. We won't know for a couple weeks.



CB, S, DL, DE - all good



We're deep in the secondary in my opinion, especially at safety, and a couple of those safeties can also play CB in a pinch.



D line should be one of the best in the league. DE, especially once Young comes back should be good.



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I think if the O-line stays healthy and is as good as it has been the last couple years, there's no reason this team can't put up 25+ points per game. Doing that and staying on the field more will only help the defense. This is at least a 10 win team - if they stay relatively healthy.[/QUOTE]A part from the LB squad I agree with everything you said. This is why I kinda go bonkers on Bostic, cuz I think they did a good job overall this offseason, but now on top of having no possibility to play a decent 4-3 if we need to, we have zero depth.
But hey, maybe Holcomb and Davis can do the job and if they don't get injured, and the nickel works 95% of the time, we don't have to see Bostic cover that much...

Anyway, we'll see, I don't think it's all doom and gloom, we have a talented roster. Just hope that self inflected Achilles heel doesn't receive any well shot arrow.

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This team wins 5 games on the low end and 8 on the high end. They will probably fall somewhere in the middle 6-7 wins.

They will probably lose to Dallas twice, Philly twice, Vikings, 49ers, GB, Colts, split w. Giants, split w/ Titans and Browns. There are your 10 losses.

I feel they will split Jags and Lions so maybe 11 losses. lol.

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Any significant injury in the back 7 on defense, and we are proper fucked.

Our depth is straight up ass.

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[quote=punch it in;1320821]Think the giants just got a younger guy and the money mAde sense. Martinez healthy is awesome- with one leg still better than Bostic. It would be insanity not to bring him in. Imo.[/quote]


Uh yeah!
What I like about some GM's, the worst that can happen on these type visits, is you pay for the Ribeye meal.

It won't hurt, you be patient on the leg, and give him another week with it, more time with First team D, float a LB to PS or even waiver. If he's not all that even, after a healing process within this season, say bye, Pencil in a LB later and one upgrade in 1st Rd 2023.

428 Solo over 600 "combined" TKLs. 39 TFL 3.5 or so Sks a yr 2017 to 2020 and before injury. That is very good considering Holcomb and Davis on other side, makes their game tick upwards. He's NOT old. This is yr 7

Balanced game, but his RILB position is his style

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1320814]If Holcolmb or Davis go down with injury, I will find out where Rivera lives and take the biggiest steamiest shit the world has ever seen on his porch.[/quote]

I say a Martinez chance visit is in order. Get him in the healing process, and use him in situations in rotations. Use more and more other players, LB's in formations to get us off of the Holcomb, Davis addiction until either a chance LB graded higher comes available or draft in 1st ( we whiffed on Parsons).

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1320830]Would he go inside then, and kick Holcomb back outside? I'm not sure of the fit, if they like Holcomb as the Mike.[/quote]

Marinez got game. Can balance good production on either side and is ACTIVE around the ball.

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Martinez, 28, missed most of last season after tearing his left ACL last September. He started all 16 games during his first season with the Giants and led the team with 151 tackles.

"very active" and me thinks the middle was the problem. He is good each SIDE

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1320820]Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.[/quote]


Got another on DeJon Harris who signed yesterday and to me, he is going to man that middle and outside, when needed. He got game, vision, and great timing to slow / Stop plays! Good base to hold ground, fights off blocks while being upright and under linemen. Makes a bee line to ball carrier, but keeps his tackle zone wide to adjust to ball carrier moves. Goal Line striker for sure!

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[quote=Onaroll;1320852]Got another on DeJon Harris who signed yesterday and to me, he is going to man that middle and outside, when needed. He got game, vision, and great timing to slow / Stop plays! Good base to hold ground, fights off blocks while being upright and under linemen. Makes a bee line to ball carrier, but keeps his tackle zone wide to adjust to ball carrier moves. Goal Line striker for sure![/quote]

This is oddly specific. Are you friends with DeJon Harris? His agent maybe?

I'm happy they're bringing guys in, but let's not pretend like it doesn't take time to learn the system. Time to learn how to ID plays quickly enough to make a play. Bringing in a guy this late means the odds of him making an immediate impact are slim.

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[quote=mooby;1320854]This is oddly specific. Are you friends with DeJon Harris? His agent maybe?

I'm happy they're bringing guys in, but let's not pretend like it doesn't take time to learn the system. Time to learn how to ID plays quickly enough to make a play. Bringing in a guy this late means the odds of him making an immediate impact are slim.[/quote]

But Mooby we are almost pathetic in that room. Maybe they're seeing what sticks to the wall. If that's the case, I'd take either Bostic or Martinez, but sadly, he could still out perform both, at least to get the ST backed so as to move Bostic forward , maybe.

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[quote=punch it in;1320837]Question mark doesn’t necessarily mean bad. Just that Im not going to say we are all good there until I see it.

I don’t really disagree with anything you said either, though I think DB’s are a little less promising than you do.

I sure hope you are right, and I am wrong. Deep down inside I sense a 6-7 win season. But on the surface I am brimming with confidence and sense a 10 win miracle season that takes us into the playoffs. Lol. Its why they play the game.[/quote]

If I see ghastly Wide Open TE's in open spots and DB's chasing WR's I will consider them the second coming of the Pearl Harbor Crew and look to low single digit wins this year , for a rousing qualification of a 5th 1st Rd or higher pick.


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I've said it before...until they prove they are different, we are the same team we were before. 7-10 or 8-9 is my prediction. Offense will be improved, but not enough to make up for a defense that will be lacking. Hoping to eat crow....but I don't feel good about this year.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1320863]I've said it before...until they prove they are different, we are the same team we were before. 7-10 or 8-9 is my prediction. Offense will be improved, but not enough to make up for a defense that will be lacking. Hoping to eat crow....but I don't feel good about this year.[/quote]Have to admit this is where I am also. Hope to be proven wrong though. Still think neglecting lbs was a massive mistake. 1st two games are super important for this year.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1320863]I've said it before...until they prove they are different, we are the same team we were before. 7-10 or 8-9 is my prediction. Offense will be improved, but not enough to make up for a defense that will be lacking. Hoping to eat crow....but I don't feel good about this year.[/quote]

Tend to agree - I think they are aiming towards mediocrity, or the WFT special - mediocrity to start the year then maybe we click towards the end to make it interesting for a playoff push. But I haven't seen anything this preseason to make me excited.

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[quote=mooby;1320867]But I haven't seen anything this preseason to make me excited.[/quote]I haven't either. I went to the KC game and personally didn't see a lot. Huge throwing lanes for Chiefs' qbs to throw into. My bigger concern is I think we will be improved, but there are so many really good teams in the league. A lot of games do come down to coaching, special teams, and luck. Wentz will have to totally ball out for this team do really do something this year.

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Adam Schefter on Twitter

Commanders named their former standout Ryan Kerrigan as their new assistant defensive line coach.

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Ben Standig on Twitter

The Washington Commanders have released C Keith Ismael from IR with an injury settlement.

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[quote=Onaroll;1320862]If I see ghastly Wide Open TE's in open spots and DB's chasing WR's I will consider them the second coming of the Pearl Harbor Crew and look to low single digit wins this year , for a rousing qualification of a 5th 1st Rd or higher pick.


[[/quote]

I think low single digits wins is way too low. We couldn't be that lucky. Instead we'll finish just low enough to miss out on all of the all-pro caliber prospects in the draft, as usual.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320873]Ben Standig on Twitter

The Washington Commanders have released C Keith Ismael from IR with an injury settlement.[/quote]

Good luck to him in his future non-football career.

As for the Commanders, it's not a loss because he never had a strong enough base to play NFL football in the first place. I got tired of seeing him get trucked in pass pro when he played. I realize that I'm acting like a shit right now but, to me, cutting Ismael is yet another example of this organization letting an under-achieving player stick around for several years when they should have known much sooner that he didn't have what it takes to fill a role on the team. I bet you could name some other players of that ilk who are still in the organization.

The coaching staff and the front office need to drop their player development hubris and sign veterans who can do now what they need done now. Time is up! I'm tired of losing.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320872]Adam Schefter on Twitter

Commanders named their former standout Ryan Kerrigan as their new assistant defensive line coach.[/quote]

They probably couldn't have made a better choice.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320872]Adam Schefter on Twitter

Commanders named their former standout Ryan Kerrigan as their new assistant defensive line coach.[/quote]

I like this for two reasons. He is a Leader and is a sponge on how the game is played. He will relate to players VERY quickly and should adapt to game plans as well. Some players, though not getting it done faster than others at the top, can relay to players who can and the results can be as good as Charley Taylor with the Fun Bunch/Smurfs. Or Richie Pettibone and that Washington D that kept evolving to changes.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1320876]Good luck to him in his future non-football career.

As for the Commanders, it's not a loss because he never had a strong enough base to play NFL football in the first place. I got tired of seeing him get trucked in pass pro when he played. I realize that I'm acting like a shit right now but, to me, cutting Ismael is yet another example of this organization letting an under-achieving player stick around for several years when they should have known much sooner that he didn't have what it takes to fill a role on the team. I bet you could name some other players of that ilk who are still in the organization.

The coaching staff and the front office need to drop their player development hubris and sign veterans who can do now what they need done now. Time is up! I'm tired of losing.[/quote]


Thanks for that breath of fresh air. I hope they read this.

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[quote=mooby;1320867]Tend to agree - I think they are aiming towards mediocrity, or the WFT special - mediocrity to start the year then maybe we click towards the end to make it interesting for a playoff push. [B]But I haven't seen anything this preseason to make me excited[/B].[/quote]

Since the Bostic signing I have been quite doom and gloom, and maybe one signing shouldn't impact my thinking that much.

But let's not (including me) forget they have acquired a [I]legit starting QB[/I], [I]drafted for another one[/I] that could develop into a starter, found an [I]explosive RB[/I], put together a [I]solid Oline[/I] with quality depth, created a young an[I] promising receiving corps[/I] etc...

There are reasons to hope we well be trending in the right direction (which is why I hope lack of depth at CB and questionnable LB squad don't come to bite us in the A).

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1320889]Since the Bostic signing I have been quite doom and gloom, and maybe one signing shouldn't impact my thinking that much.

[B]But let's not (including me) forget they have acquired a [I]legit starting QB[/I], [I]drafted for another one[/I] that could develop into a starter, found an [I]explosive RB[/I], put together a [I]solid Oline[/I] with quality depth, created a young an[I] promising receiving corps[/I] etc...[/B]

There are reasons to hope we well be trending in the right direction (which is why I hope lack of depth at CB and questionnable LB squad don't come to bite us in the A).[/quote]

I agree that these are good things. The problem is they are all on offense. I think we will have a very good offense.

But on defense, our depth just flat out sucks. If all 11 starters play all 17 games, I think we're OK. But that's not realistic.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1320890]I agree that these are good things. The problem is they are all on offense. I think we will have a very good offense.

But on defense, our depth just flat out sucks. If all 11 starters play all 17 games, I think we're OK. But that's not realistic.[/quote]

Even on Defense, I think this roster has more talent than has been showed on the field (that's why I think JDR has to be on a hot seat), our depth at LB and CB sucks, badly, but at DE, DT, and S we have very decent quality depth IMO. You can't have 4 top quality starter level players for every spot.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1320891]Even on Defense, I think this roster has more talent than has been showed on the field (that's why I think JDR has to be on a hot seat), our depth at LB and CB sucks, badly, but at DE, DT, and S we have very decent quality depth IMO. [B]You can't have 4 top quality starter level players for every spot[/B].[/quote]

Not with that attitude. I kid. I think our offense has good starters and quality depth.

I'm confident in our front 4 on defense and our depth.

Our back 7 starters on defense are serviceable. But I have zero confidence in our back 7 depth at any position. Anyone goes down, and it's a guaranteed weakness imo.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1320872]Adam Schefter on Twitter

Commanders named their former standout Ryan Kerrigan as their new assistant defensive line coach.[/quote]Very good to see. Kerrigan is still fairly young and could have a bright future in coaching. He was a stud and hard working his whole career. I knew when he was at Purdue, he was going to be great. Hope he makes a positive impact on the dline and team.

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If Blake Martinez is a available, we should obviously be interested right? There is really no excuse unless it’s a bidding war for his services

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[quote=Chico23231;1320896]If Blake Martinez is a available, we should obviously be interested right? There is really no excuse unless it’s a bidding war for his services[/quote]

You would think so, but who the hell knows when it comes to this team

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I imagine there are a bunch of teams inquiring about Martinez

.. but why wasnt he and his 1 yr 3.5M contract traded?

Why didnt we (or someone else) offer a 6th for Martinez and a 7th?

Would love Martinez, ease him in (acl).

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1320892]Not with that attitude. I kid. I think our offense has good starters and quality depth.



I'm confident in our front 4 on defense and our depth.



Our back 7 starters on defense are serviceable. But I have zero confidence in our back 7 depth at any position. Anyone goes down, and it's a guaranteed weakness imo.[/QUOTE]Yeah we're essentially saying the same thing. I'd only make a difference between:

LB we're not sure of our starters and if one goes down we're doomed < CB our starters are good but if one goes down we're effed < S our starters are ok (McCain is a ? to me but I think part of it is disconnection in the secondary) and our back ups aren't that far off behind (Forrest is a hard hitter, rookie Butler looked promising in PS, and Reaves is a decent back up).

I'd put our starting CBs above our starting Ss (cuz of McCain) but our back up Ss above our back up CBs.

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