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[QUOTE=nonniey;1340293]Right now our choices for the general election look like they are going to be shit or shittier again. How do we fix this?[/QUOTE]there is a voting system called AAD voting. It stands for Approve Approve Disapprove. In this system you vote for your first and second approve choice and one disapprove choice. both approves are worth +1, a disapprove is -1. The secret sauce in this system is that ANY candidate that gets 50%+1 disapproves is automatically disqualified. Thus by definition the candidate would start with a positive approval rating and if used in primaries we would be looking at far more consensus candidates and fewer polarizing figures.

I am sure it's not perfect, and I imagine current polarizing figures would challenge its constitutionality. but it does address the biggest single issue with our current system - that candidates are disapproved by the majority of Americans.

Has anyone else heard of this?

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[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4497459-milestone-in-2024-the-year-hispanics-vote-in-larger-numbers-than-blacks/[/url]

Blacks voters now passed by Hispanics for the first time. I heard complaining about replacement, is this what they mean?

Also Trump leads Hispanic voters now 46-40 in new poll

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leads-biden-among-hispanics-registered-voters-overall-poll[/url]

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[url]https://twitter.com/BidensWins/status/1764027164498772005[/url]

I agree Chico, it's a real shame that we have two old people as the leading candidates to run the most powerful country in the world.

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[quote=mooby;1359695][url]https://twitter.com/BidensWins/status/1764027164498772005[/url]

I agree Chico, it's a real shame that we have two old people as the leading candidates to run the most powerful country in the world.[/quote]

LOL, you see the only place chico can get his BS is FOX.

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An article about me. IMO Biden easily wins this group.


In a likely Biden-Trump rematch, voters known as 'double haters' are poised to determine the election. Who are they?


[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-a-likely-biden-trump-rematch-voters-known-as-double-haters-are-poised-to-determine-the-election-who-are-they/ar-BB1jgCrE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=006b739bbbdb4772b1a0d529e20e566e&ei=10[/url]

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Democratic party: Evil
Republican party: Complicit/Cowardly (this is no better)

Great 2 choices. Does this make me a double-hater?

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people that celebrated and got off to Colorado throwing Trump off the ballot who now turn around today and say “actually the Supreme Court got it right” are folks who you should just laugh at and whose opinions you should never take seriously. Just trash

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[quote=Chico23231;1359709]people that celebrated and got off to Colorado throwing Trump off the ballot who now turn around today and say “actually the Supreme Court got it right” are folks who you should just laugh at and whose opinions you should never take seriously. Just trash[/quote]

The Supreme Court Says the States should decide on Abortion Laws but the States can't decide whether to allow a traitor to run for President. No one is surprised on a decision concerning trump by a trump Court.

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[quote=Giantone;1359716]The Supreme Court Says the States should decide on Abortion Laws but the States can't decide whether to allow a traitor to run for President. No one is surprised on a decision concerning trump by a trump Court.[/quote]

9-0

The illegitimate court lie doesn’t hold water

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You know Kieth Olbermann might actually be very comfortable in MAGA as they have very similar thinking processes. Just has to adjust who he supports.

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/4507380-keith-olbermann-rips-supreme-court/[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1359718]9-0

The illegitimate court lie doesn’t hold water[/quote]

Again your reading comprehension is pretty bad,.

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looks like i will be voting for Biden.[emoji1785][emoji2961]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1359780]looks like i will be voting for Biden.[emoji1785][emoji2961]

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I'm not voting for Biden I'm voting against Trump, it just happens to mean my vote goes into Biden's column.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1359781]I'm not voting for Biden I'm voting against Trump, it just happens mean my vote goes into Biden's column.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I can't imagine one voter who voted for Biden last time switching to Trump, but I think at least 10% of Trump's voters will either abstain or hold their nose and vote for Biden. From that I see no way Trump can win (thank goodness), and the Republican party will suffer in both houses because of his run.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1359782]Fair enough. I can't imagine one voter who voted for Biden last time switching to Trump, but I think at least 10% of Trump's voters will either abstain or hold their nose and vote for Biden. From that I see no way Trump can win (thank goodness), and the Republican party will suffer in both houses because of his run.

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From your mouth to God's ears! I just can't see the Haley supporters going trump. I will say it's going to be a long summer with both sides going at it full force.

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The Hill
[B]Republican group planning $50M campaign to block Trump from reelection[/B]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/republican-group-planning-50m-campaign-164129760.html[/url]

An anti-Trump Republican group is planning to spend $50 million in a campaign to stop the former president from winning a second term in the White House.

Republican Voters Against Trump plans to share testimonial videos of Trump’s past backers who will share why they won’t be supporting the former president come November.

The campaign is orchestrated by Sarah Longwell, a Republican strategist who has long been critical of Trump. The plan is to target “moderate Republican” and Republican-leaning voters in swing states with videos. The group had a similar strategy in 2020, when they shared more than 1,000 testimonials during an election that President Biden won.

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[quote=Giantone;1360170]The Hill
[B]Republican group planning $50M campaign to block Trump from reelection[/B]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/republican-group-planning-50m-campaign-164129760.html[/url]

An anti-Trump Republican group is planning to spend $50 million in a campaign to stop the former president from winning a second term in the White House.

Republican Voters Against Trump plans to share testimonial videos of Trump’s past backers who will share why they won’t be supporting the former president come November.

The campaign is orchestrated by Sarah Longwell, a Republican strategist who has long been critical of Trump. The plan is to target “moderate Republican” and Republican-leaning voters in swing states with videos. The group had a similar strategy in 2020, when they shared more than 1,000 testimonials during an election that President Biden won.[/quote]

I love this and hope it is successful.

So today is the day an African American woman can start working on throwing the Trumps out of Trump Towers. Sweet karma.

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[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/YnmEsq9ICSYQ8/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=punch it in;1360847][IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/YnmEsq9ICSYQ8/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

This GIF is absolutely perfect for any political thread on the interwebs.

I made it 3 weeks without watching or reading any political news.

I'm 5 minutes in, and already regret not making it 4 weeks lol.

But I did my taxes tonight (finally) and got the best refund I've ever had.

Thanks Joe!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360888]This GIF is absolutely perfect for any political thread on the interwebs.

I made it 3 weeks without watching or reading any political news.

I'm 5 minutes in, and already regret not making it 4 weeks lol.

But I did my taxes tonight (finally) and got the best refund I've ever had.

Thanks Joe![/quote]

What is there to regret? Until today there really hasn't been any posts for over 3 weeks.

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[quote=nonniey;1360901]What is the to regret? Until today there really hasn't been any posts for over 3 weeks.[/quote]

Not here, I meant watching political news last night on T.V.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1360888]This GIF is absolutely perfect for any political thread on the interwebs.

I made it 3 weeks without watching or reading any political news.

I'm 5 minutes in, and already regret not making it 4 weeks lol.

But I did my taxes tonight (finally) and got the best refund I've ever had.

Thanks Joe![/QUOTE]


Whatever you do don’t buy stock in truth social with the money. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1360934]Whatever you do don’t buy stock in truth social with the money. Lol[/quote]

Too late. Got me some Truth Social stock and a Trump Bible.

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99% Of this Board Knows this already but it does say alot.


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/former-trump-officials-among-most-040606954.html[/url]

Associated Press
[B]Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House[/B]


ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK (AP) — Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, citing “profound differences.”

As Donald Trump seeks the presidency for a third time, he is being vigorously opposed by a vocal contingent of former officials who are stridently warning against his return to power and offering dire predictions for the country and the rule of law if his campaign succeeds.

It’s a striking chorus of detractors, one without precedent in the modern era, coming from those who witnessed first-hand his conduct in office and the turmoil that followed.

Sarah Matthews, a former Trump aide who testified before the House Jan. 6 committee and is among those warning about the threat he poses, said it’s “mind-boggling” how many members of his senior staff have denounced him.

“These are folks who saw him up close and personal and saw his leadership style,” Matthews said.

“The American people should listen to what these folks are saying because it should be alarming that the people that Trump hired to work for him a first term are saying that he’s unfit to serve for a second term.”

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1360938]Too late. Got me some Truth Social stock and a Trump Bible.[/QUOTE]


Ok well the least you could do is buy his sneakers for the trifecta. Lol.

Remember before 2016 when it would be absurd to run for president and sell sneakers and bibles to fund your criminal trials while running for president? Hell remember before 2016 when it would be absurd to run for president while facing criminal trials without selling sneakers and bibles to pay for it?
Sort of ironic but id like to make America great again by going back to a time before MAGA. [emoji848]

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/trump-mike-johnson-election-2020.html[/url]


The guy under indictment for election interference would like to warn you all about possible election interference. [emoji2957]

Is this like when the guy who loses his license for reckless driving warns you all about reckless driving?

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[quote=punch it in;1361214]Ok well the least you could do is buy his sneakers for the trifecta. Lol.

Remember before 2016 when it would be absurd to run for president and sell sneakers and bibles to fund your criminal trials while running for president? Hell remember before 2016 when it would be absurd to run for president while facing criminal trials without selling sneakers and bibles to pay for it?
Sort of ironic but id like to make America great again by going back to a time before MAGA. [emoji848][/quote]

Living in San Diego for 20 years, I'm a flip-flop kind of guy. If he makes a flip-flop, the trifecta is on (somehow I never noticed your reply to this until tonight).

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Fuck this shit!

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Biden is a god damn fucking embarrassment.

I hope everyone clearly understands now why this country is in terrible shape…the policies of a dementia ridden jack ass

Can’t name one policy that’s been effective…I point to policies of Biden and the shithole democrats that explain every fucking problem this country has which are many.

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2 old geezers on the stage talking about golf handicaps and driving distances. America 2024 baby. Fore!

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[quote=Chico23231;1362849]Biden is a god damn fucking embarrassment.

I hope everyone clearly understands now why this country is in terrible shape…the policies of a dementia ridden jack ass

Can’t name one policy that’s been effective…I point to policies of Biden and the shithole democrats that explain every fucking problem this country has which are many.[/quote]

Only Biden is an embarrassment???

Biden definitely had a catastrophically bad debate which likely sinks his chances of reelection, but both are goddamn embarrassments. It is becoming clear as day that Biden suffers from dementia and the other choice is an immature pro-Russian self-serving criminal who attempted a coup against the United States (and who also is starting to show signs of senility).

Like I've been saying we are so screwed.

The Dems only chance of stopping Trump at this point is doing something they are just not capable of at this point. That is to dump to Biden and nominate someone from the right wing of the Democratic party (ie That would be dead center of the overall political range) that has name recognition - There is only one that fits that criteria and that would be Manchin (Sinema as VP?) and no way in hell would the current progressively controlled Dems ever make that move.

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[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-biden-s-first-presidential-debate-of-2024-fact-checked/ar-BB1p25KZ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=0949917ef54e446d87ef85714f22e59e&ei=31[/url]

Not sure why I'm posting this - pretty sure we're all entrenched by now. Just in case anyone is dubious to the claims from last night.

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The dishonesty of the media on full display again…for 3 years they have been telling you not to believe your lying eyes, Biden maybe old but he is mentally sharp and fully doing the job the president

He is clearly not fit and it was on full display last night

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[quote=mooby;1362852][url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-biden-s-first-presidential-debate-of-2024-fact-checked/ar-BB1p25KZ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=0949917ef54e446d87ef85714f22e59e&ei=31[/url]

Not sure why I'm posting this - pretty sure we're all entrenched by now. Just in case anyone is dubious to the claims from last night.[/quote]

These fact checks are of course horseshit Mooby. But I’d expect nothing else…

yes Governor Northam supported killing baby up to moment of birth. Stop trying to excuse it.

Yes Biden supports open borders which he told illegals to surge to the border when he became to president during the primary. Highes months on record: [url]https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-crossings-mexico-biden-18ac91ef502e0c5433f74de6cc629b32[/url].

His border policy is a catastrophe, stop excusing it. And Trump border crossings were at a 40 year lows…fact

Yes Biden had more Covid deaths than Trump. And did not have tests available during his major surge winter after he took office. Nothing Biden did in Covid stopped the Covid deaths.

Seriously bringing up 1953 stat on unemployment…yes these are clearly bias fact chats.

In modern unemployment, yes Trump saw historic numbers and brought the unemployment number for Blacks to the lowest point ever.

Your fact checks are biased against Trump and negligent misleading, conveniently leaves outs facts that support Trumps record

Trump lead the Middle East with the Abraham accords and crushed the isis war…Joe has lead the Middle East into by appeasing Iran, allowing them to support Hamas Oct 7 and the Houthis attacks on the Red Sea. The Ukraine war happened because Biden was weak on Russia and NATO


We can talk failed energy policy, inflation, record high rent and food prices, Gen Z being priced out of buying there first house…

We can talk Jews being attacked in the streets of LA and on college campuses with antisemitism not seen in my lifetime. These aren’t rednecks committing the acts but college professors, liberals in democrat run cities. And they allow it to happen


Mooby, can you seriously name a policy under Biden that has worked? Is your opinion the Biden record is stronger than Trumps record in their Presidency?

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Instead of saying everything was the best there's ever been or the greatest there's ever been, etc., why not give us some real actual numbers? And nothing wrong with not having the greatest numbers, really good numbers are still good.

Why not just say prior to COVID hitting, in February of 2020, unemployment sat at 3.5%, that was the lowest % we have had in America since 1969? That is really good, the lowest it was in 51 years. That is a stat that should impress most voters. But instead just going out and saying it's the greatest ever is going to turn-off people that aren't already supporters.

The democrats have to find a way to get Biden to step aside and put forth another candidate at their convention. There is absolutely no way that man is fit to be president today, let alone say in 2 years from now. Get him out of there!

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[quote=Chico23231;1362849][B]trump[/B] is a god damn fucking embarrassment.

I hope everyone clearly understands now why this country is in terrible shape…the policies of a dementia ridden jack ass

Can’t name one policy that’s been effective…I point to policies of [B]trump[/B] and the shithole [B]republicans[/B] that explain every fucking problem this country has which are many.[/quote]



[B]LOL, see how easy that was?[/B]

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[quote=Chico23231;1362853][B]The dishonesty of the media on full display again…[/B]for 3 years they have been telling you not to believe your lying eyes, Biden maybe old but he is mentally sharp and fully doing the job the president

He is clearly not fit and it was on full display last night[/quote]

Ahhhhh yes, the claim of the radical MAGA trump cult member!

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[quote=Giantone;1362856][B]LOL, see how easy that was?[/B][/quote]

LOL, that was the Spider-Man meme, just in word form.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1362855]Instead of saying everything was the best there's ever been or the greatest there's ever been, etc., why not give us some real actual numbers? And nothing wrong with not having the greatest numbers, really good numbers are still good.

Why not just say prior to COVID hitting, in February of 2020, unemployment sat at 3.5%, that was the lowest % we have had in America since 1969? That is really good, the lowest it was in 51 years. That is a stat that should impress most voters. But instead just going out and saying it's the greatest ever is going to turn-off people that aren't already supporters.

The democrats have to find a way to get Biden to step aside and put forth another candidate at their convention. There is absolutely no way that man is fit to be president today, let alone say in 2 years from now. Get him out of there![/quote]

Have you met Trump? Actually have you met highly successful men from up from Jersey, NYC, Ct, Boston? Many talk in the same vernacular…it’s annoying as fuck and rubs people the wrong way.” The best, the greatest”…that’s how they speak.

Still not as bad as a woke sjw lying to your face about every fuckin thing in the world whether it’s climate change, Palestine and trannys.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362853]The dishonesty of the media on full display again…for 3 years they have been telling you not to believe your lying eyes, Biden maybe old but he is mentally sharp and fully doing the job the president

He is clearly not fit and it was on full display last night[/quote]

To make my point even sharper…in the middle of the debate, Biden campaign leaked a claim that “Biden has a cold”…of course most intelligent people know that’s horseshit

Here is your lying media started posting it all over social media, knowing full well they were trying to excuse the poor performance

It wasn’t a cold folks, it’s dementia