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[quote=GridIron26;1347223]Yeah we gotta go heavy with Oline in the offseason.. [B]Cosmi got manhandled by Cox a few times yesterday.[/B][/quote]

Who hasn't been beaten by Cox? Cox is a great player.

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[quote=punch it in;1347230]OLine Oline Oline LB more Oline. That is my draft strategy.[/quote]

That was supposed to be the 2023 strategy OL, LB and CB. Ron and his front office are idiots.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347232]That was supposed to be the 2023 strategy OL, LB and CB. Ron and his front office are idiots.[/QUOTE]


Preaching to the choir. Lol.

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[quote=MTK;1347207]While I'm not going to kill Ron over the decision, but I would have gone for 2.

But what I will kill him over is his weak explanation saying the offense was gassed. Fuck that man, as head coach you own the decision.[/quote]

You can call it weak, but I appreciate the honesty. He assessed the situation and made a decision he felt was best. At least he didn't flip a coin. Sounds like it was 50/50 on the sideline with regard to what everyone expected him to do. I'm fine with it. They got the ball and had the first chance to win. But they didn't.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1347232]That was supposed to be the 2023 strategy OL, LB and CB. Ron and his front office are idiots.[/quote]

The first four picks (out of seven) were secondary and o-line.

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[quote=GridIron26;1347223]Yeah we gotta go heavy with Oline in the offseason.. [B]Cosmi got manhandled by Cox a few times yesterday.[/B][/quote]

Sounds like G1s Saturday night AAAYYYY OOOOO!!!!!

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1347201]Right now? Very hard to find at 11pm in Japan... You know I'll do anything for good cheese though... (Except maybe going for 2 with no time left in the game when you have momentum, a young QB still making some costly mistakes and a Oline that you can't have faith in to just push it into the end zone for you.)


[SIZE="1"](Brilliant memory btw :laughing-, but it's brill[B]a[/B]t-savarin)[/SIZE][/quote]

My bad. I guess the flip side of that is if you don't trust them to make one play how do you trust them to make a 75 yard drive? Regardless I am not upset by the decision. I would have liked the gamble but think going to OT is also fair. I've just been waiting to tell you to go eat some brillat-savarin when we disagree on something. So took my shot.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1347236]Sounds like G1s Saturday night AAAYYYY OOOOO!!!!![/quote]

:D

Hahaha!

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[quote=MTK;1347220]Only a matter of time before he costs us a game.[/quote]

he may have cost us last nights game . . . the snap on that final punt was horrible and caused Way to have one of his worse punts of the year in a crucial situation. while it didn't directly cost us the game is sure gave philly good field position on that last drive.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1347235]The first four picks (out of seven) were secondary and o-line.[/quote]

True, but who did they ignore to take who they did? Forbes was a good pick (though maybe I'd have taken Gonzalez instead), but after that? Martin? Mauch or trading back would probably be better choices. Stromberg maybe best at that point (debatable) but if we'd traded back, we'd have had more picks and more options. Daniels, better than Carter Warren?

Yes 4 of 7 were DB and OL, but we probably passed up on better options that would have properly bolstered our OL and LB corps. Both were sorely in need and they still are.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1347240]True, but who did they ignore to take who they did? Forbes was a good pick (though maybe I'd have taken Gonzalez instead), but after that? Martin? Mauch or trading back would probably be better choices. Stromberg maybe best at that point (debatable) but if we'd traded back, we'd have had more picks and more options. Daniels, better than Carter Warren?

Yes 4 of 7 were DB and OL, but we probably passed up on better options that would have properly bolstered our OL and LB corps. Both were sorely in need and they still are.[/quote]

I was pointing out the strategy, not whether the particular picks will pan out, which we may not know for some time.

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Anyway, who are we to say what was "supposed to be" the 2023 strategy.

The strategy is to get better - period. Lots of ways to do that, and thousands more ways to pick those decisions apart

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[quote=Chico23231;1347212]Sam Howell needs to be developed. I’m taking QB off the board in the first round next year.

Oline, Oline, Oline next year[/quote]

I 100% agree with this and then some. And he is going to have some more rough patches but I don't care. He more than passes the eye test. That was some big boy shit yesterday, especially on that last drive. That is exactly what you look for in your QB.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1347235]The first four picks (out of seven) were secondary and o-line.[/quote]

Should have picked a T earlier than the 4th round. Mason Brooks played T in college, they should develop him to play T instead of inside ASAP.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1347235]The first four picks (out of seven) were secondary and o-line.[/QUOTE]


Completely ignored LB and those Oline picks were reaches. Especially Daniels. The Martin pick was a reach too. Bottom line is we need a GM.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1347241]I was pointing out the strategy, not whether the particular picks will pan out, which we may not know for some time.[/quote]

Sorry, my point got lost in there. Its not the strategy itself, as much as the ability of this staff to pick effectively. I don't think they did and the glaring holes still there seem to back that up.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1347246]Sorry, my point got lost in there. Its not the strategy itself, as much as the ability of this staff to pick effectively. I don't think they did and the glaring holes still there seem to back that up.[/QUOTE]


But at least he got Andrew Wylie !! [emoji2961] [emoji90]

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I lost the post-game thread war so badly, my thread got deleted. skinsfaninok is Cox and I'm Cosmi.

Normally, I hate playing on Thursdays, but I think a short turn around will be nice here. Get this nasty taste out of our mouths asap.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1347248]I lost the post-game thread war so badly, my thread got deleted. skinsfaninok is Cox and I'm Cosmi.

Normally, I hate playing on Thursdays, but I think a short turn around will be nice here. Get this nasty taste out of our mouths asap.[/quote]

It wasn't deleted the threads were combined

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1347245]Completely ignored LB and those Oline picks were reaches. Especially Daniels. The Martin pick was a reach too. Bottom line is we need a GM.[/QUOTE]

LB was "filled" in free agency... only so many draft picks. Barton wouldn't have been my choice, but the position was addressed as part of the overall strategy.

Anyway, like I said, there are many ways to pick apart the actual decisions, but we may not know for some time if those decisions (specific players) were "correct", and we'll never know if the players we didn't pick would have worked out.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1347248]Normally, I hate playing on Thursdays, but I think a short turn around will be nice here. Get this nasty taste out of our mouths asap.[/quote]Agree. We need a victory asap. The Bears are coming into town in rough shape without Chase Claypool who has been told to remain away from the team. They are a very desperate team. Absolutely must win this game.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1347246]Sorry, my point got lost in there. Its not the strategy itself, as much as the ability of this staff to pick effectively. I don't think they did and the glaring holes still there seem to back that up.[/quote]

The secondary is better, and the o-line is better. Neither are all world, but they are better, and likely will continue to get better as they play more together.

LB group is average at best, and probably about the same as last year. Maybe at some point Cox will be ready and make an impact this year. If not, we'll all be hoping for a better solution this offseason (again).

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Cody Barton has been fucking trash. I can’t believe how JDR and Ron have handled that position here

There wasn’t a LB available in the second where we took Mathis or Martin this year or last? Jfc

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NFL network is replaying the game Wednesday at 8pm EST.

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One thing people having been talking about is our shitty special teams, especially punt returns. Time to say goodbye to Crowder and promote Kazmeir Allen.

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[quote=MTK;1347250]It wasn't deleted the threads were combined[/quote]

Learn something new every day. I've never noticed that before. Cool stuff.

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[quote=Chico23231;1347255]Cody Barton has been fucking trash. I can’t believe how JDR and Ron have handled that position here

There wasn’t a LB available in the second where we took Mathis or Martin this year or last? Jfc[/quote]

Barton is always late to the party. He has the athleticism. He's just slow to process.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347257]One thing people having been talking about is our shitty special teams, especially punt returns. Time to say goodbye to Crowder and promote Kazmeir Allen.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I don’t know what the hell Crowder was thinking. I would give a rookie a pass on this but Crowder is a vet and he knows the rules.

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He knows the rules. Split second decision though. He probably thought he couldn't get a return initially, waved his hand, then was like Oh shit there's room to run...and did.

At least it's no longer a penalty.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1347263]He knows the rules. Split second decision though. He probably thought he couldn't get a return initially, waved his hand, then was like Oh shit there's room to run...and did.

At least it's no longer a penalty.[/QUOTE]


It isn’t? Im just googling it because I wasn’t aware of that rule change but i see that it still is? [emoji2371]

One other thing unrelated and not directed at just you Chief. Im not saying I would have gone for two at the end because if we didn’t get it we would kill Ron also BUT im not buying the reason that they were gassed. It was like a 90 second drive and it is one play. If the offense is gassed to the point that one play is too much does it make sense to play for OT??

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1347257]One thing people having been talking about is our shitty special teams, especially punt returns. Time to say goodbye to Crowder and promote Kazmeir Allen.[/quote]

Doesn't Allen have issues catching the ball and muffed a punt return in the last game of the preseason?

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1347265]Doesn't Allen have issues catching the ball and muffed a punt return in the last game of the preseason?[/QUOTE]


He played football on the west coast. SF has a soft spot for anyone who played on the west coast. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1347264]It isn’t? Im just googling it because I wasn’t aware of that rule change but [B]i see that it still is?[/B] [emoji2371]

One other thing unrelated and not directed at just you Chief. Im not saying I would have gone for two at the end because if we didn’t get it we would kill Ron also BUT im not buying the reason that they were gassed. It was like a 90 second drive and it is one play. If the offense is gassed to the point that one play is too much does it make sense to play for OT??[/quote]

I didn't look it up. I was just going by what the announcer said. I thought he said it used to be a delay of game penalty, but isn't anymore. Were we penalized five yards on that play?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1347265]Doesn't Allen have issues catching the ball and muffed a punt return in the last game of the preseason?[/quote]

One muff and he’s in the doghouse. Gibson does it over and he’s playing. Regardless, they need to make something happen with punt returns, also let Hudson start instead of Barton. 2 changes I would make immediately, I would seriously have Mason Brooks try out at T. With his aggressiveness he would be perfect.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1347267]I didn't look it up. I was just going by what the announcer said. I thought he said it used to be a delay of game penalty, but isn't anymore. Were we penalized five yards on that play?[/QUOTE]


I think so but im not 100 percent sure
Invalid fair catch penalty

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[quote=punch it in;1347266]He played football on the west coast. SF has a soft spot for anyone who played on the west coast. Lol[/quote]

No I don’t, didn’t even know about him. Was Howell from the WC?

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347270]No I don’t, didn’t even know about him. Was Howell from the WC?[/QUOTE]


He went to Disneyland every summer as a child.

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[quote=punch it in;1347271]He went to Disneyland every summer as a child.[/quote]

Sorry dude, but believe or not never have. Did you got to Coney Island as a child?

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1347272]Sorry dude, but believe or not never have. Did you got to Coney Island as a child?[/QUOTE]


I was talking about Sam not you. You asked if he was from the west coast.

Went to Coney Island once but I was older, but I grew up on the jersey shore so im not making any road trips to see other boardwalks.

Anyway don’t know much about Kaz but he definitely showed flashes in pre season

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[quote=punch it in;1347273]I was talking about Sam not you. You asked if he was from the west coast.

Went to Coney Island once but I was older, but I grew up on the jersey shore so im not making any road trips to see other boardwalks.

Anyway don’t know much about Kaz but he definitely showed flashes in pre season[/quote]

Howell is from Charlotte, NC. I was giving u shit back