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It seems a bit of a risk as he hasnt played a whole season a few years, but based on muliple suitors, Washington wasnt alone in interest. It seems hes mainly a man corner, which implies more blitzing opportunities. So I can see how that part works. Im sure we paid a touch more but thankfully we had that dot
son pick on hand. I dont think this happens if we didnt. So swapping wr 4 for CB 1 plus a couple mid rounders makes sense, even if there is an injury risk. I dont expect they would extend him due to that concern, who knows. Even if he is an average cb, hes still a big upgrade. I just dont know who will be cb 2?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1366804]Another interesting tidbit:

@AdamSchefter
The Saints previously restructured Marshon Lattimore’s contract, meaning Washington is getting the Pro Bowler on a minimum contract for the rest of this season.[/quote]

I think it's safe to assume that Lattimore is one of those players who want to be traded to our team.

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[quote=Chico23231;1366785]So after giving a 4th for Trey Lance, Jerry gives a 4th for an end of bench WR

Lance not even the 2nd QB in Dallas.[/quote]

Jerry is obviously no longer competent to be his own GM. Now, he's just making inconsequential moves in an attempt to make the Dallas fans think he's got things under control. But it won't work. His poor decisions have gotten his franchise into a deep hole from which he thinks he can dig his way out but it's not gonna happen.

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Lattimore for the equivalent of 2 mid round picks I can live with. Like to thin they have at least one more deal they're trying to make for an edge rusher maybe.

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[quote=GridIron26;1366807]I think it's safe to assume that Lattimore is one of those players who want to be traded to our team.[/quote]

Nah, staying on a team who just fired their coach midseason is a riot. Just think us last year when we fired Jack Del Rio. It is the ultimate worst case scenario, especially for a guy who has been stuck there for years with no hope to get out. He should be estatic! Worst to first And you get paid a ton. Man, I wish!

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I cant see any more trades, too thin on draft capital, plus we are ok now.

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Just think of the vets we have now on defense. And our offense is doing great without a ton of age

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Commanders checked in on D.J. Reed
The Commanders have made their deadline splash by landing former Saints corner Marshon Lattimore. Before they did, however, they did look around the league to address that need. As The Athletic notes, Washington checked in with the New York Jets to see if corner D.J. Reed was available but was told he was not.



Teams gauging price on Giants rusher Azeez Ojulari
Teams are checking in with the New York Giants to see what it would take to land Azeez Ojulari in a trade, according to The Athletic. The report notes that the team is looking for a high fifth-round pick or late fourth-rounder as compensation. Ojulari is slated to be a free agent this offseason.

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Grant Paulsen
@granthpaulsen

[I]I'm told the Commanders are trading their third round pick, which is currently 21 picks lower than the third they got from the Eagles.

Pick 72 - came for Dotson
Pick 93 - original 3rd

Big difference.[/I]

My add - That Eagles pick originally came from the Dolphins. So we all need to be rooting against Miami the rest of the season. Don't have a 4th, so want that 3rd to be as high as possible.

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Not a huge fan of this deal, but I trust Peters completely.

The biggest thing, as mentioned by others, is the trickle-down effect of BSJ moving to CB2, and most importantly, Sanristil back in the slot where he belongs.

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Packers trade Preston Smith to the Steelers per Schefter.

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Does he play Sunday or we wait until Eagles game?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1366735]apparently its unlikely due to cap implications that they move him:

[url]https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/11/4/24287866/marshon-lattimore-trade-rumors-nfl-deadline-2024-new-orleans-saints-salary-cap[/url]

Sent from my SM-S711U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]welp that was wrong [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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[quote=skinsnut;1366810]Nah, staying on a team who just fired their coach midseason is a riot. Just think us last year when we fired Jack Del Rio. It is the ultimate worst case scenario, especially for a guy who has been stuck there for years with no hope to get out. He should be estatic! Worst to first And you get paid a ton. Man, I wish![/quote]

Oh, I was thinking about the fact that Lattimore was willing to restructure his contract to make this trade possible. Although you made a great point, Saints is in a bad place now and I imagine some players want to get out of there.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1366816]Packers trade Preston Smith to the Steelers per Schefter.[/quote]

Steelers is going all in, they also traded for Mike Williams. It will be interesting to see how far they will go into the playoffs.

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Marshon Lattimore info:

6'0" 192 lbs ; 28 years old
1st rounder Ohio St
2017 AP defensive rookie of the year
4 time pro bowler
15 passes picked in 97 career games

We HAD to upgrade our secondary this year, especially corners if we're truly going to compete this year. Lattimore is the best move to do this. Like the move a lot.

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Looks like with all the Wide receivers Pittsburgh is signing, we might need to trade for Newsome too.

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Lattimore seems like he is probably hitting the downside of his career. He's missed a lot of games the last few years. I was listening to Grant and Danny and they mentioned that out of the last 60 games he's missed 20, so by my count that's 1/3 of the games played the last few years, plus he makes a ton of money.

On the flip side he fills an obvious need for the next couple of years and is easily the best corner we have.

In Peters we trust and all great GM's at some point take risks. Every move he's made has been pretty damn good. Plus Lattimore has to be happy as hell getting out of New Orleans. This is what the top teams do, try and upgrade mid season. Hard to think it but we are now that type of team.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1366823]Lattimore seems like he is probably hitting the downside of his career. He's missed a lot of games the last few years. I was listening to Grant and Danny and they mentioned that out of the last 60 games he's missed 20, so by my count that's 1/3 of the games played the last few years, plus he makes a ton of money.

On the flip side he fills an obvious need for the next couple of years and is easily the best corner we have.

In Peters we trust and all great GM's at some point take risks. Every move he's made has been pretty damn good. Plus Lattimore has to be happy as hell getting out of New Orleans. This is what the top teams do, try and upgrade mid season. Hard to think it but we are now that type of team.[/quote]

Yeah, I have the same concern regarding his reliability. I hope Lattimore is now more motivated to play, which will naturally enable him to play through injuries whenever possible. Nonetheless, just like you, I think this is a risk worthwhile for us to take.

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Lattimore has given up all of 1TD in his last 50 games played covering teams #1 WRs . . . this year opponents have a QB Rating of 76 when attempting to pass his way. He is by far our #1 corner, and only 28 years old. yes, health has been a concern, but he seems healthy so far this year!

This can help us a LOT!! Not only will it help us shore up the secondary, but will allow us to put more men in the box to slow the run game down instead of having two deep safeties on every play. Hopefully he can get up to speed quickly!!! I like this move quite a bit! Not just a 1 year rental either, two more years after this year under contract at $18 mill cap hits . . . not bad for a #1 corner in today's NFL!!

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the most telling thing about lattimore is that teams like the ravens and chiefs were in the hunt for him as well, those are good personal teams makes me feel better about this trade

hopefully he stays healthy

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You're getting a flawed player at the trade deadline.
Health, Contract, attitude, or a combo of the 3.

Lattimore has a bad hamstring.
There is some risk but the reward is moving BSJ to WR2 and Sainristril to the slot with help deep. the upside outweighs the contract which isn't that bad.

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I don't see how any Washington fan can be upset at this huge deal. Corner was preventing this team from every going anywhere this season, now they have landed one of the top corners in the game.

The window in Washington is officially open for business.

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I wonder if Lattimore and McLaurin are tight. They would have overlapped at OH State.


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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1366828]I don't see how any Washington fan can be upset at this huge deal. Corner was preventing this team from every going anywhere this season, now they have landed one of the top corners in the game.

The window in Washington is officially open for business.[/quote]

I believe his salary is not guaranteed the next two years- If for some reason (I in no way believe this) he becomes what a Haynes was worth, we are not stuck with a major salary hit, I believe.

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The Dallas Cowboys have yet to make a trade during the NFL Trade Deadline, but the franchise might be too busy making other moves.

Jon Machota of The Athletic is reporting that the Cowboys are releasing cornerback Andrew Booth. [url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys-release-third-year-cornerback/ar-AA1tyTLL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7c57407c1c844173a19a72cad0facac8&ei=19[/url]
Maybe Quinn knows something about getting value out of this guy

On the trade

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbVtd5zJ2Jk[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlMOMosWQqo[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdEN60KikE[/url]

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[quote=jamf;1366827]You're getting a flawed player at the trade deadline.
Health, Contract, attitude, or a combo of the 3.
[/quote]Flawed? A 4 time pro bowler who some Saints fans are calling the best corner they've ever had who is 28 years old. Please cite us attitude examples with him.

Again, he is an upgrade. Our corners prior to him needed a lot of help. Options WERE limited. He was easily the BEST available and has been healthy all year.

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Lattimore has that dog in him. I love that about him. I think him coming to our culture, and I can't believe I am saying this now, but the culture here now is damn good. Remember that line? lol. I think he will be fine here. He just needs to get healthy. It's a risk but hard not to like this move.

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I wonder is Lattimore was one of the players who wanted to be traded here?

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1366834]Flawed? A 4 time pro bowler who some Saints fans are calling the best corner they've ever had who is 28 years old. Please cite us attitude examples with him.

Again, he is an upgrade. Our corners prior to him needed a lot of help. Options WERE limited. He was easily the BEST available and has been healthy all year.[/quote]


He's definitely flawed. He's hurt quite often.

I can't cite any attitude problems, but he's a guy who runs hot on the field. I always disliked him, but I'm sure I'm gonna love it now.

If he's healthy I agree that he's a big upgrade.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1366839]He's definitely flawed. He's hurt quite often.
[/quote]It's the NFL. Injuries happen and can unpredictably. You don't fear this risk for when the reward is excellence. He has been healthy all year and is still a great corner. You honestly think we could have competed in the playoffs with our corners pre Lattimore? No way. This is why this move was made. We have a rock star qb finally on a rookie contract. The window is now.

What was your plan if you are opposed to getting Lattimore?

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[quote=simbosargos75;1366839]
If he's healthy I agree that he's a big upgrade.[/quote]He is healthy now. Quit fearing greatness and put your faith in Peters. He has done everything else right.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1366834]Flawed? A 4 time pro bowler who some Saints fans are calling the best corner they've ever had who is 28 years old. Please cite us attitude examples with him.

Again, he is an upgrade. Our corners prior to him needed a lot of help. Options WERE limited. He was easily the BEST available and has been healthy all year.[/quote]

I meant players in general that are on the trade block are flawed.

Lattimore has injury concerns and is the second highest paid CB in the NFL.
For a 3rd, it’s a low risk trade that should pay off immediately.

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[quote=jamf;1366850]I meant players in general that are on the trade block are flawed.

Lattimore has injury concerns and is the second highest paid CB in the NFL.
For a 3rd, it’s a low risk trade that should pay off immediately.[/quote]OK got it. I keep having nightmares how AJ Brown torched our secondary next year. I don't want that to happen again by any team. Getting a real #1 corner will help a lot. Interested to see how it works out but like the bold move by AP. Peters seems to have a great balance on when to make big moves (Lattimore) and when to stay on the sidelines (Aiyuk).

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I am still trying to figure out why the Saints did this. They have serious cap issues, so they trade their bsst player at a premium position for basically a 3rd and 4th and took a $30 million cap hit. Does that make sense to anyone?

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1366864]I am still trying to figure out why the Saints did this. They have serious cap issues, so they trade their bsst player at a premium position for basically a 3rd and 4th and took a $30 million cap hit. Does that make sense to anyone?[/quote]

Saints need to rebuild and need players to be on rookie contracts. Also they may need draft capital for any type of movement in the draft.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1366864]I am still trying to figure out why the Saints did this. They have serious cap issues, so they trade their bsst player at a premium position for basically a 3rd and 4th and took a $30 million cap hit. Does that make sense to anyone?[/quote]

Saints and Lattimore restructured the contract prior to the trade, I assume the restructure adjusted the amount of cap hit.

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from what i read his current contract is:
2024: $605,000
2025: $18m
2026: $18.5m

no guarantees/cap hit if cut (well possibly injury guarantees, those are pretty common).

the team has the cap space, the only risk is value for the picks. Needed a CB #1 to push everyone else down a spot, and this is probably the best you're going to be able to do to make that happen.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1366868]Saints need to rebuild and need players to be on rookie contracts. Also they may need draft capital for any type of movement in the draft.[/QUOTE]This. The way I heard it explained is that if they kept him on, he would count an additional 18 million above the 31 Million dead cap he counts no matter what. By trading him they get rid of that 18 Million and get 3 additional potential players on rookie contracts.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1366843]He is healthy now. Quit fearing greatness and put your faith in Peters. He has done everything else right.[/quote]

"Quit fearing greatness". WTF does that even mean?

My plan would've been to stay the course and keep the draft capital.

As I said though, I trust Peters and think this move is ok. I'm just not over-the-moon about it.