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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1365794]Ravens are probably the best team in the AFC (NFL?) at this point and we've gotten within touching distance. Yes the D has holes, but we can go into the next game knowing we are competitive. Who foresaw that week 1? JD is the real deal.[/QUOTE]Absolutely [emoji106] Agree [emoji106]
JD played Very Well against a Very Good Team!

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Not even upset about today’s game, It’s pretty much exactly what I was expecting. I thought the defense had been over performing the past couple of games and I figured Derek Henry would be just too much for us to handle today, if Robinson would’ve played, maybe it would’ve made a difference, but he doesn’t play defense.Daniels still looks like a seasoned all pro

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Good game. Exactly how I thought it would turn out. We were competitive, but the holes in our d overshadowed how well our offense can perform against a sb contender. 4-2 6 wees in is nothing to be upset about imo

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4-2 and lost a close game to the Ravens on the road. No B Rob was a problem. But our secondary isn’t good enough to be serious contenders. Maybe they will turn it around by the time the playoffs roll around, because we will be in them.

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If there was ever a moral victory this is one. Baltimore is one of the best teams in the league. If this was last year it's not a competitive game.

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I am not upset we lost…..what I am upset about is the Poor performance by The officials at give us a level playing Field so many missed calls against us

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I think the Lamar can't pass narrative needs to be put the rest.

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Meh still upset with Rivera for creating so many holes in the Defense. Noticed Forbes and Davis were healthy scratches.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1365802]I think the Lamar can't pass narrative needs to be put the rest.[/quote]

I don't think it needs to be put to rest. He'll put together a shabby passing game when it matters.

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[quote=tomo366;1365801]I am not upset we lost…..what I am upset about is the Poor performance by The officials at give us a level playing Field so many missed calls against us[/quote]

The officiating was terrible. It was the difference in such a close game.

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[quote=punch it in;1365799]4-2 and lost a close game to the Ravens on the road. No B Rob was a problem. But our secondary isn’t good enough to be serious contenders. Maybe they will turn it around by the time the playoffs roll around, because we will be in them.[/quote]

The Ravens are a tough matchup due to their run threats. I was actually more disappointed with the pressure up front and run containment.

We've got a run of winnable games coming up.

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[quote=Hoglips;1365806]The Ravens are a tough matchup due to their run threats. I was actually more disappointed with the pressure up front and run containment.

We've got a run of winnable games coming up.[/quote]

They'll fold against the Steelers and against anyone in the playoffs.

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[quote=Hoglips;1365806]The Ravens are a tough matchup due to their run threats. I was actually more disappointed with the pressure up front and run containment.

We've got a run of winnable games coming up.[/quote]

Agree.

Armstrong going out hurt and when we brought pressure (which was a lot) we didn’t get home. Ravens well coached and ready. That flat route across the field was open all day long and Lamar hit it.

Offense struggled to run the ball, we aren’t a good enough to overcome that.

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That game went exactly as expected. The defense is simply going to be non-competitive against any good offense. Guys just wide-ass open all day.

Benjamin St. BBQ Chicken was especially awful. Our safeties made zero plays. And when we finally did get a stop, the refs fucked us over on that bogus PI.

Offense has to play a perfect game for us to beat a team with a good offense. Offense played well enough to win if our defense was any better than dog-shit all game.

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We played bmore without our starting RB and list by a TD

Look at Dallas they are getting smoked by DET ; if our score was that I be concern , we hung with a big dog no shame in todays game

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Our secondary will hurt us all season. CB should’ve been addressed seriously last off-season. I’d explore trading for a CB before the deadline. Offense will keep us in games, but we needed B-Rob today. Thought our front seven held up pretty well.

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I think the team did a decent job against a good Ravens team. B-Rob was sorely missed. I thought the defense did a decent job. They were definitely playing against the run, and I thought they did a good job at keeping Lamar contained. Zay Flowers def killed us with short to intermediate pass catches.

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I really love how Daniels responds when placed in a tough situation. And using his best receiver Terry in critical moments. The first pass was sneaky good, but that 2nd TD was a thing of beauty.

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[quote=nonniey;1365803]Meh still upset with Rivera for creating so many holes in the Defense. Noticed Forbes and Davis were healthy scratches.[/quote]

I don't understand them scratching Davis. You can't tell me he wouldn't have helped out there today.

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[quote=vallin21;1365822]Our secondary will hurt us all season. CB should’ve been addressed seriously last off-season. I’d explore trading for a CB before the deadline. Offense will keep us in games, but we needed B-Rob today. Thought our front seven held up pretty well.[/quote]If any team has a good corner available for trade prior to the deadline agree would consider. Ours were a liability today. A lot of wide open receivers for Lamar to throw to.

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There is no shame in losing to a team like the Ravens who were playing their best at home. Not too many teams would have beaten them yesterday. This season is not about being contenders, it's about building a winning culture and most importantly finding a QB who can change the team's future. I think we have our answer. He showed yesterday there isn't a player in the league who can deliver the ball any better than Jayden Daniels. He was fitting it into tight windows all day long.

Of course the difference was the Washingotn secondary and it was exposed again. But i don't want to see a trade. Peters is not a quick fix guy and I think he is thinking long term success over a quick fix.

Lot's of talk about the corners and for good reason. St. Juste is the best they have but he stil has not learned to keep his hands off, way too many PI penaltiies on that guy over the years. But man we have been searching for an impact safety since Sean Taylor.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1365836]There is no shame in losing to a team like the Ravens who were playing their best at home. Not too many teams would have beaten them yesterday. This season is not about being contenders, it's about building a winning culture and most importantly finding a QB who can change the team's future. I think we have our answer. He showed yesterday there isn't a player in the league who can deliver the ball any better than Jayden Daniels. He was fitting it into tight windows all day long.

[B]Of course the difference was the Washingotn secondary and it was exposed again. [/B] But i don't want to see a trade. Peters is not a quick fix guy and I think he is thinking long term success over a quick fix.

Lot's of talk about the corners and for good reason. St. Juste is the best they have but he stil has not learned to keep his hands off, way too many PI penaltiies on that guy over the years. But man we have been searching for an impact safety since Sean Taylor.[/quote]

i think our corners are adequate for this season, what happened yesterday is do to the threat of Lamar and Henry we had to go a lot to man vs man; all you had to do was shut down flowers who is good but not great; unfortunately not having a shut down corner to guard him crushed us.

I also put some blame on the offense; in the first half the D had some stops and a turnover; with this weak D if they hand you something like that got put points on the board; the O started very slowly yesterday. Missing BRob really made us one dimensional against a good team.

But hey we were competitive and we are 4-2 with arguably now our hardest game of the year behind us. Go back and watch Bills vs Ravens; JD5 and the Commanders definitely held their own against a top team compared to Allen and the Bills.

Pssssss...by the way if Lamar or Henry go down on a significant injury this team is cooked.

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I didn't get to watch the game but watching highlights and reading up it sounds like the Ravens were well in control even though the score was close. They racked up almost 500 yards of offense which is not great. One of the things I didn't understand and I didn't hear it in the post game was why when the Commanders made it a one score game, and knowing your defense was incapable of stopping the Ravens, didn't Dan Quinn go for an on side kick?

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[quote=mredskins;1365838]i think our corners are adequate for this season, what happened yesterday is do to the threat of Lamar and Henry we had to go a lot to man vs man; all you had to do was shut down flowers who is good but not great; unfortunately not having a shut down corner to guard him crushed us.

I also put some blame on the offense; in the first half the D had some stops and a turnover; with this weak D if they hand you something like that got put points on the board; the O started very slowly yesterday. Missing BRob really made us one dimensional against a good team.

But hey we were competitive and we are 4-2 with arguably now our hardest game of the year behind us. Go back and watch Bills vs Ravens; JD5 and the Commanders definitely held their own against a top team compared to Allen and the Bills.

Pssssss...by the way if Lamar or Henry go down on a significant injury this team is cooked.[/quote]


No more than we are if JD goes down... These are franchise players for a reason and the franchise will suffer greatly if you lose one of those.

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[quote=mredskins;1365838]i think our corners are adequate for this season, what happened yesterday is do to the threat of Lamar and Henry we had to go a lot to man vs man; all you had to do was shut down flowers who is good but not great; unfortunately not having a shut down corner to guard him crushed us.

I also put some blame on the offense; in the first half the D had some stops and a turnover; with this weak D if they hand you something like that got put points on the board; the O started very slowly yesterday. Missing BRob really made us one dimensional against a good team.

But hey we were competitive and we are 4-2 with arguably now our hardest game of the year behind us. Go back and watch Bills vs Ravens; JD5 and the Commanders definitely held their own against a top team compared to Allen and the Bills.

Pssssss...by the way if Lamar or Henry go down on a significant injury this team is cooked.[/quote]

If the offense had been able to score a TD after that pick, it would have greatly affected the course of the game. And in that particular drive, I feel that BRob absence was definitely felt. As good as Ekeler and McNichols have been, they don't have the same effect that BRob has in the run game. The Ravens have a good run defense, but I agree that not having BRob took away from the running attack.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365840]I didn't get to watch the game but watching highlights and reading up it sounds like the Ravens were well in control even though the score was close. They racked up almost 500 yards of offense which is not great. One of the things I didn't understand and I didn't hear it in the post game was why when the Commanders made it a one score game, and knowing your defense was incapable of stopping the Ravens, didn't Dan Quinn go for an on side kick?[/quote]

Arguably you play the odds there. If we don't recover the onside kick then the Ravens get the ball virtually in scoring range with probably the best kicker in the game. It's a moot point about the D stopping them, because even if we stop them after the onside kick-off and they elect to punt (and it's more likely they're in Tuckers range by then), they're pinning us deep with seconds on the clock. If we do put them inside their 35 with a normal kick-off and stop their O, we get the ball back with enough time on the clock to go 50-70 yards rather than a likely 80-90.

But our D was wasn't going to stop them either way.

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[quote=mredskins;1365838]i think our corners are adequate for this season, what happened yesterday is do to the threat of Lamar and Henry we had to go a lot to man vs man; all you had to do was shut down flowers who is good but not great; unfortunately not having a shut down corner to guard him crushed us.

I also put some blame on the offense; in the first half the D had some stops and a turnover; with this weak D if they hand you something like that got put points on the board; the O started very slowly yesterday. Missing BRob really made us one dimensional against a good team.

But hey we were competitive and we are 4-2 with arguably now our hardest game of the year behind us. Go back and watch Bills vs Ravens; JD5 and the Commanders definitely held their own against a top team compared to Allen and the Bills.

Pssssss...by the way if Lamar or Henry go down on a significant injury this team is cooked.[/quote]

I scoffed today listening Sheehan saying the offense was just fine. Pathetic

I agree, the offense was slow to warm up and beating your chest about field goals made…while every point counts, you will lose on the road against a good team settling for field goals.

Weren’t we the second best running team coming into yesterday? We wilted instead imposing our will…yes BRob was out, but Eckler and McPickles have shown they can’t carry the rock.

I was disappointed in the offense yesterday as well as the defense.

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4-2 is on pace for 11-6.

The 2 teams we have lost to are a combined 8-4, and both losses are on the road.

We are so far ahead of the curve, it's absolutely beautiful.

Jayden Daniels is a fucking boss. He's a rookie, and it doesn't feel like it at all. It's probably not even fair to him. He's raised expectations so high, it's the standard now that he plays great.

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yea the One two punch of BRob and Eckler makes it a lot harder on the D ... they are so different ! We need Both .. Who is gonna step up now that Allen is done ?

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[quote=rocnrik;1365867]yea the One two punch of BRob and Eckler makes it a lot harder on the D ... they are so different ! We need Both .. Who is gonna step up now that Allen is done ?[/quote]

Our defense sucked with Allen, including horrendous run defense. Newton will have to play a lot more snaps. Hopefully him and Mathis can stay healthy. Wish we still had Ridgeway right now. But at this point, our defense stinks, and Jayden is going to have to keep being elite to keep winning.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1365865]4-2 is on pace for 11-6.



The 2 teams we have lost to are a combined 8-4, and both losses are on the road.



We are so far ahead of the curve, it's absolutely beautiful.



Jayden Daniels is a fucking boss. He's a rookie, and it doesn't feel like it at all. It's probably not even fair to him. He's raised expectations so high, it's the standard now that he plays great.[/QUOTE]and we can expect both philly and dallas to lose to both Tampa and Bmore, so in the division race its a non issue. Atlanta and Chicago will be interesting games (assuming this team doesn't hiccup on teams they should beat like Carolina)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1365869]and we can expect both philly and dallas to lose to both Tampa and Bmore, so in the division race its a non issue. Atlanta and Chicago will be interesting games (assuming this team doesn't hiccup on teams they should beat like Carolina)

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One of the sweetest, most humblest men I've been fortunate enough to call a friend is a Bears fan. I was texting him earlier today how cool this match-up should be. Bears have a bye this week. We should beat Carolina.

That game should be 5-2 vs. 4-2. And No. 1 pick vs. No. 2 pick.

We need to pound Carolina as soon as possible.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1365861]Arguably you play the odds there. If we don't recover the onside kick then the Ravens get the ball virtually in scoring range with probably the best kicker in the game. It's a moot point about the D stopping them, because even if we stop them after the onside kick-off and they elect to punt (and it's more likely they're in Tuckers range by then), they're pinning us deep with seconds on the clock. If we do put them inside their 35 with a normal kick-off and stop their O, we get the ball back with enough time on the clock to go 50-70 yards rather than a likely 80-90.

But our D was wasn't going to stop them either way.[/quote]

That was my thinking. Easy for me to say but I would've hoped he would gamble for the win with special teams knowing how poorly the defense was playing Sunday would make it a moot point if Baltimore recovered the ball.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365871]That was my thinking. Easy for me to say but I would've hoped he would gamble for the win with special teams knowing how poorly the defense was playing Sunday would make it a moot point if Baltimore recovered the ball.[/quote]

it was basically pick your death

on side kick = quick and over

kick off = death by a million paper cuts

The ONLY opportunity we had to win at the end was if that lame PI call wasn't made but whatever that is the NFL

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we couldn't fix every hole in one offseason. no one's trading us a #1 CB at any kind of reasonable price. True #1 DE and CB are our offseason #1/#2.

good game. ravens were the better team. 12.4? ypp avg against our D is tragic though.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365865]4-2 is on pace for 11-6.

The 2 teams we have lost to are a combined 8-4, and both losses are on the road.

We are so far ahead of the curve, it's absolutely beautiful.

Jayden Daniels is a fucking boss.[/quote]Agree with this. We are not at the Ravens level yet, a legitimate SB contender. Tampa is really good this year, and it was JD's first game. Very happy with this season so far. Let's just focus on 1 game at a time. Winning the division and making the playoffs should be the goal.

HTTC!

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1365874]Agree with this. We are not at the Ravens level yet, a legitimate SB contender. Tampa is really good this year, and it was JD's first game. Very happy with this season so far. Let's just focus on 1 game at a time. Winning the division and making the playoffs should be the goal.

HTTC![/quote]

Before the season started even thinking about making the playoffs was just a dream. Hopefully the team will continue to progress and the results will speak for themselves. Amazing ride we're on...

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[quote=That Guy;1365873]we couldn't fix every hole in one offseason. no one's trading us a #1 CB at any kind of reasonable price. True #1 DE and CB are our offseason #1/#2.

good game. ravens were the better team. 12.4? ypp avg against our D is tragic though.[/quote]

Even if a team is willing to trade us a CB1 it has to fit into the Peters process. I don't want an impulse buy and then throw away draft picks or $ for short term gain.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1365876]Even if a team is willing to trade us a CB1 it has to fit into the Peters process. I don't want an impulse buy and then throw away draft picks or $ for short term gain.[/quote]

I would be really surprised if we made any trade that costs more than a 7th rounder. Save the picks.

Picks + Cap Space = Potential for Epic Offseason

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365877]I would be really surprised if we made any trade that costs more than a 7th rounder. Save the picks.

Picks + Cap Space = Potential for Epic Offseason[/quote]

I surmise Peters and staff will use a 5th rounder via trade.