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firstdown 01-29-2013 03:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991629]I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC[/quote]
I'm sure your going to point to the word "established" but what about Gibbs?

SmootSmack 01-29-2013 04:01 PM

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[quote=firstdown;991642]I'm sure your going to point to the word "established" but what about Gibbs?[/quote]

Well Gibbs' is unique. But the key difference is there is Cerrato wasn't in charge. After Gibbs left, Snyder put Cerrato in charge of all football operations. Made it his show to run to show that he could be the guy, not the foot soldier.

But while most good managers want a strong team under them, Cerrato didn't, for fear that some would be good enough to eventually make Cerrato irrelevant.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-29-2013 04:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991647]Well Gibbs' is unique. But the key difference is there is Cerrato wasn't in charge. After Gibbs left, Snyder put Cerrato in charge of all football operations. Made it his show to run to show that he could be the guy, not the foot soldier.

But while most good managers want a strong team under them, Cerrato didn't, for fear that some would be good enough to eventually make Cerrato irrelevant.[/quote]

Very stupid on Cerratos part. I dont know how he couldnt have had the foresight to realize that if he doesnt have a good coach, and strong personnel people, he wouldnt have a good team, and he'd lose his job.

Chico23231 01-30-2013 09:21 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/jim-zorn-may-replace-marc-trestman-in-montreal/]Jim Zorn may replace Marc Trestman in Montreal | ProFootballTalk[/url]

wow, whats this all aboot?

Lotus 01-30-2013 09:41 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;991743][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/jim-zorn-may-replace-marc-trestman-in-montreal/]Jim Zorn may replace Marc Trestman in Montreal | ProFootballTalk[/url]

wow, whats this all aboot?[/quote]

Montreal needs the slip 'n slide. How do you say "Horny for Zorny" in French?

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-30-2013 09:44 AM

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The CFL is probably where Zorn should have started his head coaching career, instead we let him coach us for two years.

SmootSmack 01-30-2013 09:57 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;991650]Very stupid on Cerratos part. I dont know how he couldnt have had the foresight to realize that if he doesnt have a good coach, and strong personnel people, he wouldnt have a good team, and he'd lose his job.[/quote]

Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players, but he's an extremely insecure, petty person. That's ultimately his true downfall

SCRedskinsFan 01-30-2013 11:07 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991751]Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players, but he's an extremely insecure, petty person. That's ultimately his true downfall[/quote]

And, in my experience, only someone with similar traits would hire that kind of executive for a senior position. So was he (is he) a reflection of his boss?

HailGreen28 01-30-2013 11:10 AM

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Thanks for the great stuff SS, NCS.

NC_Skins 01-30-2013 11:53 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991751]Cerrato is not as dumb as people believe when it comes to straight scouting of players, [/quote]


This guy would be our QB right now.


[IMG]http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2011/05/02/clausenx-large.jpg[/IMG]


Let that sink in.



:laughing-

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2013 12:00 PM

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[quote=Lotus;991747]Montreal needs the slip 'n slide. How do you say "Horny for Zorny" in French?[/quote]

Per Google Translate: "Chaude pour Zorny"

but you probably were asking rhetorically ;)

SmootSmack 01-30-2013 12:02 PM

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;991762]And, in my experience, only someone with similar traits would hire that kind of executive for a senior position. So was he (is he) a reflection of his boss?[/quote]

No, not at all

Evilgrin 01-30-2013 12:29 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991778]No, not at all[/quote]

Cerrato IMO made alot of mistakes over a decade. Alot of his quotes from that book just lead to more questions. Why do the skins always say things that just make you scratch your head? Hire a friggin lawyer and pretend that your always talking to the Cops.

SCRedskinsFan 01-30-2013 01:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991778]No, not at all[/quote]

OK, thanks, good thing...

SmootSmack 01-30-2013 04:02 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;991502]I just heard 20 minutes ago that Smith is gone..but I can't confirm it yet[/quote]

Confirmed


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