Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278764]We are down to...

Darnold
Newton
Fitzmagic
Rookie[/quote]

Thought Fitztragic retired?

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278766]and

Marcus Mariota
Jameis Winston
Andy Dalton
Mitchell Trubisky
Tyrod Taylor
C.J. Beathard
Jacoby Brissett
Brandon Allen
Colt McCoy
Blake Bortles
Blaine Gabbert
Nathan Peterman
A.J. McCarron[/quote]

Mariota isn't an FA (yet) and there are a few more that could go on that list (including RGIII..)

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1278770]Mariota isn't an FA (yet) and there are a few more that could go on that list (including RGIII..)[/quote]

Yeah, Darnold isn't either. It wasn't a free agent list, and not all inclusive. Just pointing out that there are other options than Darnold, Newton, Fitzmagic, and Rookie

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278766]and

Marcus Mariota
Jameis Winston
Andy Dalton
Mitchell Trubisky
Tyrod Taylor
C.J. Beathard
Jacoby Brissett
Brandon Allen
Colt McCoy
Blake Bortles
Blaine Gabbert
Nathan Peterman
A.J. McCarron[/quote]

Winston wants to stay in New Orleans but if he does leave he's be my #1 guy over Mariota, Cam etc.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278772][B]Winston wants to stay in New Orleans[/B] but if he does leave he's be my #1 guy over Mariota, Cam etc.[/quote]

I've heard that, but money talks. I don't think he'd stay there if the money is a lot less than what he could get elsewhere.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Mariota or Heinicke will be our starting QB next year. Both will be on the roster.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

No way the Saints let Winston out of town. He'd be dumb to leave that situation too.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1278776]Mariota or Heinicke will be our starting QB next year. Both will be on the roster.[/quote]

If I had to bet, I'd say Mariota over Darnold for sure. The reason being, Sam has potential so the Jets may keep him. Mariota is what he is at this point

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Nfc east qb rankings as of today imo

1. Dak (duh)
2. Jones (barely)
3. Hurts
4. Heinicke

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278778]If I had to bet, [B]I'd say Mariota[/B] over Darnold for sure. The reason being, Sam has potential so the Jets may keep him. Mariota is what he is at this point[/quote]

He likely gets released. I can see several teams picking outside the top 10 being in on him when that happens.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278782]He likely gets released. I can see several teams picking outside the top 10 being in on him when that happens.[/quote]

Bears
WFT
Ravens

to name a few

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278783]Bears
WFT
Ravens

to name a few[/quote]

Why would Mariota go to the Ravens to be a back up, when he can compete to be QB1 with the Bears or our team?

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1278786]Why would Mariota go to the Ravens to be a back up, when he can compete to be QB1 with the Bears or our team?[/quote]

They need a guy to replace RG3 but yeah I see what you are saying

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278783]Bears
WFT
Ravens

to name a few[/quote]

Not sure about the Ravens, but I wouldn't count out the 49ers, Patriots, Broncos, and Saints depending on what happens with their QB situations.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1278779]Nfc east qb rankings as of today imo



1. Dak (duh)

2. Jones (barely)

3. Hurts

4. Heinicke[/QUOTE]Hurts and Heinicke are simply unknowns, with too little game tape. I would take Jones over Dak IF he solves the turnovers. Regardless of pundit analysis, NFC East will be between NyG and WFT for the next 3 years.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278792]They need a guy to replace RG3 but yeah I see what you are saying[/quote]

Rumor here is they will roll with McSorley as back up.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278793]Not sure about the Ravens, but I wouldn't count out the 49ers, Patriots, Broncos, and Saints depending on what happens with their QB situations.[/quote]

49ers: I'm very curious to see what happens with Jimmy G. I don't think they'd replace him with someone like Mariota; if they are getting a new QB they'd be going after Wilson or Watson.

Patriots: Better option for Mariota, although I think that team is devoid of any talent.

Broncos: Much better option in terms of offensive weapons. But would you really get rid of Lock and replace him Mariota?

Saints: They have Winston and Hill; like with the 49ers, if they are getting a new QB they'd be going after Wilson or Watson.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1278797]49ers: I'm very curious to see what happens with Jimmy G. I don't think they'd replace him with someone like Mariota; if they are getting a new QB they'd be going after [B]Wilson[/B] or [B]Watson[/B].

Patriots: Better option for Mariota, although I think that team is devoid of any talent.

Broncos: Much better option in terms of offensive weapons. But would you really get rid of Lock and replace him Mariota?

Saints: They have Winston and Hill; like with the 49ers, if they are getting a new QB they'd be going after [B]Wilson[/B] or [B]Watson[/B].[/quote]

We'll see how all that shakes out. I'm just saying you can't count those teams out at this point.

If you're talking about Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson, I really don't think those dudes are going anywhere.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278799]We'll see how all that shakes out. I'm just saying you can't count those teams out at this point.

If you're talking about Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson, I really don't think those dudes are going anywhere.[/quote]

Wilson may not, but I won't count out a Watson trade until at least draft day.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1278800]Wilson may not, but I won't count out a Watson trade until at least draft day.[/quote]

I wouldn't count it out. Anything is possible, but I can't imagine anyone giving up what they are reportedly asking for.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278803]I wouldn't count it out. Anything is possible, but I can't imagine anyone giving up what they are reportedly asking for.[/quote]

If they are serious about trading him, which they are not, I doubt they'd continue to ask for what the compensation they are asking.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

I am curious to see what happens if Caserio has full GM control I got to think he will put together a trade for Watson.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Washington Football Team: Kyle Allen - Projected Starter

Let’s be honest. There’s no obvious answer on the roster or on the horizon. Think Washington should just draft a QB? Cool, but have you read a mock draft recently? At best, one of the projected five first-round selections will be available at No. 19, according to current thinking, and that’s without counting other teams trading up for help. Washington could be a trade-up team, but the potential cost is tricky. Sign a free agent or make a trade? Look at the broken pieces out there. Mariota? Darnold? Tyrod Taylor? Um, sure, I guess. Even if Washington goes down one of those routes — and I’d guess veteran over rookie — it’s a dart throw. Therefore, the safe guess is Washington re-signs Allen, an exclusive-rights free agent and favorite of coach Ron Rivera, and he beats out Taylor Heinicke with a mystery third party (Mariota?) looming. — Ben Standig


I just don't see how Kyle Allen is the QB1

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

I don't see how Allen isn't QB1 lol

With dwindling options and less than ideal draft position what other options are there?

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=MTK;1278840]I don't see how Allen isn't QB1 lol

With dwindling options and less than ideal draft position what other options are there?[/quote]

Rather have TH as the QB, I think he showed more upside and is mobile. Allen is just Bleh to me, another check down guy. This is sad that we can never find a franchise QB...

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Allen would start over TH I'd almost guarantee it.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Prob so, if we are down to Sam Darnold or those 2 guys give me Darnold

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

If Darnold costs a 1st or even a 2nd I really don't see how he's worth it especially since he's going to need to be extended. I'd rather just roll with Allen and TH and take another shot at QB next year.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=MTK;1278845]If Darnold costs a 1st or even a 2nd I really don't see how he's worth it especially since he's going to need to be extended. I'd rather just roll with Allen and TH and take another shot at QB next year.[/quote]

Agree. Darnold's fifth year option is 24 million.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;1278848]Agree. Darnold's fifth year option is 24 million.[/quote]

Yeah so basically you really have to be committed to Darnold and believe he's your guy

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278844]Prob so, if we are down to Sam Darnold or those 2 guys give me Darnold[/quote]

I don't see Darnold as an upgrade. There has been a lot written about the challenges he has faced with the Jets: Horrible OL, only one WR with a enough of a clue to run a decent route or even line up properly, dropped passes galore, etc. It's all true. Nevertheless, my personal observations of him show someone who has a long way to go to develop the necessary skills and techniques to play his position well. And, in my view, he just doesn't have any heat. I'd take a chance on Mariota over Darnold. At least Mariota can make special plays with his feet.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278844]Prob so, if we are down to Sam Darnold or those 2 guys give me Darnold[/quote]

nfm.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

If there was a definition of a JAG QB then Kyle Allen is that. He is the ultimate back up QB and a very good one. But I doubt he's a 16 game starter.

It was very clear that after watching Heinike he obviously was better than anyone we saw under center last year. But can he stay healthy? Can he continue that level and maybe get better? Can he play at a high level w/ expectations? Just a lot of questions surrounding him. He needs to stay in the weight room this entire off season.

But for him to play as well as he did against the SB champs was just very impressive. How many drops did he have that game? He was accurate, threw w/ anticipation, he was mobile, we just haven't seen that level of play since Kirk. We finally saw that Cam Sims is pretty good once he got a QB in there that can get him the ball.

For me it was Stafford or bust. Since we could not land him then it's 100% draft and bring back Allen. You can't have 3 guys competing so to me it's Heinike and make a decision on the rookie or Allen.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1278863]If there was a definition of a JAG QB then Kyle Allen is that. He is the ultimate back up QB and a very good one. But I doubt he's a 16 game starter.

It was very clear that after watching Heinike he obviously was better than anyone we saw under center last year. But can he stay healthy? Can he continue that level and maybe get better? Can he play at a high level w/ expectations? Just a lot of questions surrounding him. He needs to stay in the weight room this entire off season.

But for him to play as well as he did against the SB champs was just very impressive. How many drops did he have that game? He was accurate, threw w/ anticipation, he was mobile, we just haven't seen that level of play since Kirk. We finally saw that Cam Sims is pretty good once he got a QB in there that can get him the ball.

For me it was Stafford or bust. Since we could not land him then it's 100% draft and bring back Allen. You can't have 3 guys competing so to me it's Heinike and make a decision on the rookie or Allen.[/quote]

Agree on everything here.

I imagine Ill feel a little let down in we dont upgrade the QB but once we win a game or two, play good complimentary offense with our top 10 D .. ill get over it.

makes next off season as a desperate one though (unless we draft Lance or Jones)

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Not sure I can agree. From what I heard the playbook was simplified so much for Heinicke in the playoff game that it wouldn't be sustainable for 16 games. That performance was a one game stop gap. We will get a chance to see what he can do with a full playbook this year, see if he actually has NFL skills.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Unless they trade up we will be stuck with a JAG in 2021, even if they sign Mariota or Cam or whoever

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Yep, at this point we have to draft a QB in round 1 now. Letting Smith go and not getting a top FA QB (none are left) guarantees that we have to draft one this year.

Mac Jones, Kyle Allen and Heinicke it is.

I also think we're paying Heinicke too much to be a #3 QB, but Rivera seems like he has some loyalty to Allen.

Hopefully we get a chance to draft a QB like Jones, he could be gone before 19.

Lance will be gone. If we want him, we're trading up.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

We've seen way too many one game wonders come and go for me to get even remotely excited for Heinicke. Chances are he's a good backup at best. If he's the real deal then halle-fucking-lujah let's go

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Asked about Cam Newton, Ron Rivera says he cant talk about it bc free agency hasnt started.
JP

Sooooo what does that mean?

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

FFS with Cam already, it's not happening