Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;1188104]None of this makes any sense.

As soon as they place the tag on Cousins, it counts against the salary cap. Cousins does not need to sign his tender for it to count. As soon as they tag him, it counts. The number for the tag is in the neighborhood of 34.5 million. And last check I saw was Washington is 32 million under the cap. Teams are required to be under the salary cap before the start of the new league year, March 14. Additionally, Cousins cannot be traded until he signs that tender. So tagging him would hamstring the organization in free agency.

Why would a team willingly enter into negotiations regarding a trade of a player they KNOW will be a free agent? They know that worst case scenario is they tag KC. If KC does not sign the tag, he is a Free Agent. If KC signs the tag, everyone knows Washington will rescind the tag at the start of the new league year.[/quote]

They won't do it, for that reason alone

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;1188104]None of this makes any sense.

As soon as they place the tag on Cousins, it counts against the salary cap. Cousins does not need to sign his tender for it to count. As soon as they tag him, it counts. The number for the tag is in the neighborhood of 34.5 million. And last check I saw was Washington is 32 million under the cap. Teams are required to be under the salary cap before the start of the new league year, March 14. Additionally, Cousins cannot be traded until he signs that tender. So tagging him would hamstring the organization in free agency.

Why would a team willingly enter into negotiations regarding a trade of a player they KNOW will be a free agent? They know that worst case scenario is they tag KC. If KC does not sign the tag, he is a Free Agent. If KC signs the tag, everyone knows Washington will rescind the tag at the start of the new league year.[/quote]

It's definitely something that the front office would've tried had they not gotten Alex Smith. However, at this point, unless a deal has already been agreed upon (wink, wink, nod, nod) the 'skins should be happy getting a 3rd in 2019 and being done with the Kirk Cousins saga.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

If I'm Kirk I simply state that I'm not signing the FT until well after FA starts so you miss out on most of the FA's you are going to want. He wants to be a FA, let him go.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Yeah as we should hear about something in March!

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;1188104]None of this makes any sense.

As soon as they place the tag on Cousins, it counts against the salary cap. Cousins does not need to sign his tender for it to count. As soon as they tag him, it counts. The number for the tag is in the neighborhood of 34.5 million. And last check I saw was Washington is 32 million under the cap. Teams are required to be under the salary cap before the start of the new league year, March 14. Additionally, Cousins cannot be traded until he signs that tender. So tagging him would hamstring the organization in free agency.

Why would a team willingly enter into negotiations regarding a trade of a player they KNOW will be a free agent? They know that worst case scenario is they tag KC. If KC does not sign the tag, he is a Free Agent. If KC signs the tag, everyone knows Washington will rescind the tag at the start of the new league year.[/quote]

If a team has draft picks to spare, I think they would rather give that up to have access to Cousins as opposed to competing against other teams in the free agent market.

Cousins can still dictate the negotiations with the team that is willing to trade for him, as this would only work if all parties are on board.

Honestly, I don't blame the team for trying to get something for Cousins.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I say if Im redskins Front office I try everything I can to get something for Cousins. that is what he is doing ..He wants to make the most money he can and I don't blame him ..same for team..it remains to be seen if they can pull it off but I would try.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I still think chances of a tag and trade coming together are slim. I’ll say 20% chance of it happening.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1188108]If I'm Kirk I simply state that I'm not signing the FT until well after FA starts so you miss out on most of the FA's you are going to want. He wants to be a FA, let him go.[/quote]

I have heard multiple people comment about KC signing the FT. I was under the impression that the FT binds the player to that team for a one year contract and extends the time to reach a LTD. If a LTD isn't reached there are then two options:
1. Play the year
2. "Retire" for the season

What am I not understanding?

Also assuming the Skins FT Cousins we know he is not going to do option 2, like Bell is threatening.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1188130]If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?[/quote]

Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Giantone;1188131]Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?[/quote]

No, because the Skins signed him very soon after Carolina rescinded the tag.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;1188131]Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?[/QUOTE]Norman had not signed his tag. Until it is signed the team can rescind it. Norman was headed back to sign his when the Panthers pulled the FT offer.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Ok, wasn't sure how that went down.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1188130]If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?[/quote]

Yes, Kirk should sign the tag immediately. And then the "fun" begins.