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GMScud 04-02-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
Anyone who makes excuses for Cutler's record on account of Denver's poor defense need look no further than our injured, decaying offensive line for Campbell's struggles down the stretch last year.

Both players were 8-8 last year with nearly identical passer ratings. We were a much more run oriented team last year, and Denver lost like 8 RBs to injury. Their O-line was superior to ours, especially in pass protection, not to mention their receivers WAY outperformed ours. They threw more often due to a piss poor defense and decimated backfield, thus the inflated yardage stats.

Another thing to consider is the caliber of defenses each QB faced. Denver got to see the likes of the AFC West. We play the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys twice apiece, not too mention the likes of Pitt and Baltimore.

Cutler is no more of a winner or leader than Jason, side by side their passing efficiency is very similar, and Jason throws far less INTs.

Again, in a straight up deal I'd take Cutler of JC. But what we're supposedly offering for this crybaby malcontent is just too much IMO.

T.O.Killa 04-02-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=freddyg12;541401]Incorrect. They traded their 06 1st rounder & a 3rd rounder for Denver's 05 1st rounder. The net loss was only a 3rd round pick. Best move of Joe Gibbs II IMO.[/quote]
I cant remember exactly how we traded up for Campbell, but we gave up alot to get him.
Here is a part of JLC Insider:
"If the Skins make a trade for picks only, and Denver does not want Jason Campbell (and the delay in the trade has led several executives to assume that is the case), then the trade value for the quarterback will drop more. The Skins were seeking a second-rounder for Campbell ([B]they dealt multiple picks in order to move up in the draft and take him in 2005[/B]) but two executives said that if the Skins are stuck with Cutler and Campbell, they may have to settle for a third or worse. No one would be rushing to help alleviate Washington's problems now, and the execs said it would be silly for a club to go ahead and trade a second for Campbell, given the uncertainty with the Cutler deal."

WaldSkins 04-02-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Redskins-Cutler-trade-42337677.html]www.washingtonexaminer.com >> Sports[/url]

Trade is imminent??

MTK 04-02-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
Listening to Wilcots and Schein today on NFL radio they were both saying that trading for Cutler is a no-brainer for teams like the Jets, Vikes, Skins, etc. And neither had a problem with giving up 2 first rounders.

SmootSmack 04-02-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
I am Jason Campbell...actually, I'm not. But I just had my peformance review and my boss said "your leadership style is effective but kind of laid-back, so just be sure that people aren't confusing that with lack of desire or assertiveness" and I thought "I'm Jason Campbell!"

WaldSkins 04-02-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=Mattyk72;542137]Listening to Wilcots and Schein today on NFL radio they were both saying that trading for Cutler is a no-brainer for teams like the Jets, Vikes, Skins, etc. And neither had a problem with giving up 2 first rounders.[/quote]

Maybe Denver is going to throw in Ryan Clady to sweeten the deal.

MTK 04-02-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=WaldSkins;542136][URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Redskins-Cutler-trade-42337677.html"]www.washingtonexaminer.com >> Sports[/URL]

Trade is imminent??[/quote]

We might as well get used to it I guess, it's gonna happen. What Danny wants, Danny gets.

Trample the Elderly 04-02-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=SmootSmack;542138]I am Jason Campbell...actually, I'm not. But I just had my peformance review and my boss said "your leadership style is effective but kind of laid-back, so just be sure that people aren't confusing that with lack of desire or assertiveness" and I thought "I'm Jason Campbell!"[/quote]

What's the shimmy on all of this Cutler BS SS? I don't believe JLC but were there is smoke . . . .

CRedskinsRule 04-02-2009 03:55 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;542130]I am not sure we scored 30 point in any game last year. Most of the time we cant score more that five field goals. [B]If Campbell was such a talent then why wont anyone give a second round pick for a franchise quarterback.[/B][/quote]
possibly because, everyone knows we want to offload him. and he has a bad media rap. a small part of me would like to see Jason Campbell go to an AFC West team, and light up the stage. but only cuz I feel he is a far more composed and professional and classy guy then Cutler (and maybe Snyder).

SmootSmack 04-02-2009 03:56 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;542142]What's the shimmy on all of this Cutler BS SS? I don't believe JLC but were there is smoke . . . .[/quote]

I've got nothing new to report really, haven't had time. Been too busy with work

Apparently though the Redskins have an advantage being in the NFC, the Broncos are asking a lot more of AFC teams

WaldSkins 04-02-2009 03:57 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=SmootSmack;542144]I've got nothing new to report really, haven't had time. Been too busy with work

Apparently though the Redskins have an advantage being in the NFC, the Broncos are asking a lot more of AFC teams[/quote]

Denver does know we play them this year correct?

RedTempleSkin 04-02-2009 03:58 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;542130]I am not sure we scored 30 point in any game last year. Most of the time we cant score more that five field goals. If Campbell was such a talent then why wont anyone give a second round pick for a franchise quarterback.[/quote]

we did not score well last year, but we did not have the option of playing SanDiego, K.C. or the radiers either. These are the game that Denver scored well in, we a good defense came around they did do well.

mredskins 04-02-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
After reading the wilbon article I can't be more disappointed about this trade. Cutler and Campbell are the same QB, god only knows what we are going to have to give up for this Cutler guy.

GMScud 04-02-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
Wilbon hits the nail on the head IMO. I don't always agree with him, but he's dead on here.

Snyder is a moron. I'm really aggravated. This is just stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

WaldSkins 04-02-2009 04:08 PM

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 
[quote=RedTempleSkin;542146]we did not score well last year, but we did not have the option of playing SanDiego, K.C. or the radiers either. These are the game that Denver scored well in, [B]we a good defense came around they did do well.[/quote][/B]

What?:confused:


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