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Some of this is Carson, some of this is the o-line, some of this is Turner and Rivera. Overall it's one big shit sandwich.[/quote]

Not nearly enough mid range/soft zone throws .. over the LB and before the safeties. Second level throws.
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What is it called when you throw the ball on the sidelines to the gap between a corner and safety? Aaron Rodgers used it last year .. the nines? (not 9/go route .. not talking route tree)

We need more of that. I thought Carson was going to be able to drive the ball down field into those spots.

The mid to deep outs.

The throws that Heinike cant make but Carson can.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

Can anyone remind me how much playing time Wentz needs before that high 3rd becomes a high 2nd?

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=EdmundDorf;1325071]Can anyone remind me how much playing time Wentz needs before that high 3rd becomes a high 2nd?[/quote]

70% of snaps. Something he should never get close to, unless Rivera is trying to purposely sabotage the team.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

He's been as advertised. Through 5 games, he will hit the deep ball and make big plays with his arm but he is inconsistent in tight windows and makes some boneheaded decisions. He's better than TH but he isn't worth 28M. I doubt he is back next yr unless its a backup role for cheap

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1325073]He's been as advertised. Through 5 games, he will hit the deep ball and make big plays with his arm but he is inconsistent in tight windows and makes some boneheaded decisions. He's better than TH but he isn't worth 28M. I doubt he is back next yr unless its a backup role for cheap[/quote]

Yeah. One thing I will say they did right is to not restructure him before the season. I feel like they knew it was a one year gamble.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1325073]He's been as advertised. Through 5 games, he will hit the deep ball and make big plays with his arm but he is inconsistent in tight windows and makes some boneheaded decisions. He's better than TH but he isn't worth 28M. I doubt he is back next yr unless its a backup role for cheap[/quote]

The dude is a goober. I just don't think he's smart enough to be a successful NFL QB.

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I don't even think Wentz is much better than Taylor. He has a bigger arm but that doesn't make him better. If Taylor were starting we'd still be 1-4.

Also you have to look at the value. Taylor costs no draft picks and makes way less. We'd probably have the same record w/ Taylor, maybe better because you'd keep the 30 million and could get better guys to block, plus you'd have your draft picks for depth.

I knew this stupid ass trade was going to blow up in their stupid ass faces. Going after retread QB's rarely works. It's band aid football. You sign retreads as backups, not give them 30 million and numerous draft picks.

Draft QB's every year or almost every year. Always have a cheap vet around like Taylor or Bridgewater. The #1 reason why this team stinks is a total mismanagement of the QB position.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1325085]I don't even think Wentz is much better than Taylor. He has a bigger arm but that doesn't make him better. If Taylor were starting we'd still be 1-4.

Also you have to look at the value. Taylor costs no draft picks and makes way less. We'd probably have the same record w/ Taylor, maybe better because you'd keep the 30 million and could get better guys to block, plus you'd have your draft picks for depth.

I knew this stupid ass trade was going to blow up in their stupid ass faces. Going after retread QB's rarely works. It's band aid football. You sign retreads as backups, not give them 30 million and numerous draft picks.

Draft QB's every year or almost every year. Always have a cheap vet around like Taylor or Bridgewater. The #1 reason why this team stinks is a total mismanagement of the QB position.[/quote]

THIS!

That's why I say after we lose to CHI lets use that long week to get Howell going. What do u have to lose?? Maybe he ends up as the next RW.. U never know until u try. We know what Wentz is and we know what TH is...

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1325079]The dude is a goober. I just don't think he's smart enough to be a successful NFL QB.[/quote]

He was a stud athlete and thats why he was so good his first few years but injuries have killed his mobility

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1325085]I don't even think Wentz is much better than Taylor. He has a bigger arm but that doesn't make him better. If Taylor were starting we'd still be 1-4.

Also you have to look at the value. Taylor costs no draft picks and makes way less. We'd probably have the same record w/ Taylor, maybe better because you'd keep the 30 million and could get better guys to block, plus you'd have your draft picks for depth.

I knew this stupid ass trade was going to blow up in their stupid ass faces. Going after retread QB's rarely works. It's band aid football. You sign retreads as backups, not give them 30 million and numerous draft picks.

Draft QB's every year or almost every year. Always have a cheap vet around like Taylor or Bridgewater. The #1 reason why this team stinks is a total mismanagement of the QB position.[/quote]

Preach, skinsfan69!

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1325085]I don't even think Wentz is much better than Taylor. He has a bigger arm but that doesn't make him better. If Taylor were starting we'd still be 1-4.

Also you have to look at the value. Taylor costs no draft picks and makes way less. We'd probably have the same record w/ Taylor, maybe better because you'd keep the 30 million and could get better guys to block, plus you'd have your draft picks for depth.

I knew this stupid ass trade was going to blow up in their stupid ass faces. Going after retread QB's rarely works. It's band aid football. You sign retreads as backups, not give them 30 million and numerous draft picks.

Draft QB's every year or almost every year. Always have a cheap vet around like Taylor or Bridgewater. The #1 reason why this team stinks is a total mismanagement of the QB position.[/quote]

Have to have some one to evaluate talent though. We had plenty of cap space even after signing Wentz and did nothing of value with it. Let our only all pro go and replace him with Norwell. The front office error by this current leadership is mind boggling.

Agree we are no better record wise with Heinicke.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325093]Have to have some one to evaluate talent though. We had plenty of cap space even after signing Wentz and did nothing of value with it. Let our only all pro go and replace him with Norwell. The front office error by this current leadership is mind boggling.

Agree we are no better record wise with Heinicke.[/quote]

Norwell is going to go down as one of my least favorite Redskins/WFT/Commie players of all times. What a bum.

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 

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Carson had a pretty good game against a not very good defense.

Wish he ended the night w 361 yds, 3 titties and 0 picks

Down 4 w 4:40 left .. we engineered an 18 play drive to get it down to first and goal.

Titans are not a good team, we are not a good team.

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Wentz and Heinicke keep me at home.

If Howell starts, I would go watch games solely to watch him.

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Wentz isn't the problem, in fact we have 1 win solely on him and that GW Drive he had.

He isn't great but he's way better than TH. Guys we have seen TH for 2 years, he's a nice story but he cant throw downfield. That's why I say Howell because he has a good arm and mobility. So what he's a 5th rd pick.. Throw him out there