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[quote=punch it in;1302629]So Fox News already up in arms about a comment made by the left about Dole being a Trumper. Remember when Trump, Fox News, and all the lil Trumpers ridiculed the shit out of War Hero John McCain? Didn’t hear any backlash bout that? But suddenly how dare you call Dole a war hero - a Trumper?

Suck a dick Trumpy Fox news shit bags.[/quote]

It was and still is their most prominent article re Bob Dole's passing. Why? Why make a tweet from some uber liberal your most prominently displayed article re his passing? Why not honor the man? Why give oxygen to some random tweet from some random person Ive never heard of.

same thing as Thanksgiving. Day before and on Thanksgiving .. their highest most visible article re Thanksgiving was how the Dems hate and want to ruin Thanksgiving. Why not focus and celebrate Thanksgiving?

Its weird.

Outrage culture sells. Both sides. Even in sports. I guess its human nature that we hate stronger than we love.

I do it to. Reason fox news has the highest ratings is bc its an entertaining train wreck that parodies as a news source.

Im a liberal and I read a few articles a day from fox.

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Right they are more interested in playing games than honoring Dole, and that is compounded by the fact that they could care less when Trump and his band of trumptards ridiculed John McCain for getting captured in a War Trump was too much of a pussy to serve in!!!!


It is insanity, and I go to bed and wake up every morning thanking God that I am not one of them.

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They honored dole with numerous articles yesterday.

When retard liberal so called journalists on msnbc, intercept are gonna smear Dole, what do you expect? You give them a sledgehammer, they are gonna use it. Let’s admit these liberal journalists were laughable jackasses, these aren’t serious people.

If there was more accountability from readers or viewers of msnbc or others, maybe Fox wouldn’t have to call out and clown these folks.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1302674]They honored dole with numerous articles yesterday.

When retard liberal so called journalists on msnbc, intercept are gonna smear Dole, what do you expect? You give them a sledgehammer, they are gonna use it. Let’s admit these liberal journalists were laughable jackasses, these aren’t serious people.

If there was more accountability from readers or viewers of msnbc or others, maybe Fox wouldn’t have to call out and clown these folks.[/QUOTE]


So it is a smear to remind everyone honoring him as a war hero that he is a Trumper, and Trump was a coward during war time, and ruthlessly made fun of a former POW even after his death?

Gotcha.

Would appear to me he was reminding Fox news, Trump, and all the baby Trumpers what hypocritical sheep they are. How on Earth you cannot see that is nutso, unless of course, as usual, you just don’t want to see it.

To summarize,

War hero, and Trump criticizer, John Mcain is ruthlessly made fun of by a Draft dodging coward even after his death, and Fox news and you all go along for the ride.

War hero, and Trump apologist, Bob Dole dies and Fox News and you all are outraged that a reporter from MSNBC refers to him as a Trumper.

That register with you Chico, or you going to continue with your veiled attempt at sincerity for the death of a war hero?

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[url]https://apple.news/AoKTemEfoSKe1upteRiBINQ[/url]

God this guy just came out from under his slimy rock and bought every lying sack of shit, corrupt, greedy, fuck with him. Drain the Swamp. Hahahaha. The swamp is now an ocean wearing red hats.

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That ocean seems to be like 25% of our country men and women.

We need to close the divide and lessen the anger. I think its impossible but we need to try.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1302698]That ocean seems to be like 25% of our country men and women.

We need to close the divide and lessen the anger. I think its impossible but we need to try.[/QUOTE]


Im all for it. Gonna call a spade a spade though. I really only have these conversations on this board. I stopped trying to reach the ones around me a long time ago.

There is no reaching them. Just got to hope that the cult shit wears off of enough of them that whatever is left is nothing to worry about.

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[quote=punch it in;1302692]So it is a smear to remind everyone honoring him as a war hero that he is a Trumper, and Trump was a coward during war time, and ruthlessly made fun of a former POW even after his death?

Gotcha.

Would appear to me he was reminding Fox news, Trump, and all the baby Trumpers what hypocritical sheep they are. How on Earth you cannot see that is nutso, unless of course, as usual, you just don’t want to see it.

To summarize,

War hero, and Trump criticizer, John Mcain is ruthlessly made fun of by a Draft dodging coward even after his death, and Fox news and you all go along for the ride.

War hero, and Trump apologist, Bob Dole dies and Fox News and you all are outraged that a reporter from MSNBC refers to him as a Trumper.

That register with you Chico, or you going to continue with your veiled attempt at sincerity for the death of a war hero?[/quote]

The reason everyone laughed and called out the 2 MSNBC talking head as well as others is they lied about the quote. It was half the quote…the other half was Dole saying he was sort of “trumped out” and went on to criticize Trump election claims among other things associated with the previous administration.

So I don’t blame you for not knowing as you are being purposely lied too by some represented msnbc and other sillier media sources.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1302700]The reason everyone laughed and called out the 2 MSNBC talking head as well as others is they lied about the quote. It was half the quote…the other half was Dole saying he was sort of “trumped out” and went on to criticize Trump election claims among other things associated with the previous administration.

So I don’t blame you for not knowing as you are being purposely lied too by some represented msnbc and other sillier media sources.[/QUOTE]


Way to avoid the McCain thing with a bit of gibberish.

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[quote=punch it in;1302701]Way to avoid the McCain thing with a bit of gibberish.[/quote]

You cry about a fake Bob Dole quote and story and now when you realize it you move goal posts.

Let’s just stick with the dole non-story and agree he was an American hero and legend.

Thank Bob Dole with making this country a much better place. RIP

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1302703]You cry about a fake Bob Dole quote and story and now when you realize it you move goal posts.

Let’s just stick with the dole non-story and agree he was an American hero and legend.

Thank Bob Dole with making this country a much better place. RIP[/QUOTE]


Way to avoid the McCain thing with a bit of gibberish.

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[quote=Chico23231;1302674] retard .[/quote]

The fact that you're ignorant enough to have to use that word says it all!

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[quote=Giantone;1302712]The fact that you're ignorant enough to have to use that word says it all![/quote]

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[quote=Chico23231;1302723][[/quote]

chico = our................

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[quote=Chico23231;1302723][IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/SqflD5OvHoWILB7qWm/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

I miss Billy Crystal.

Might have to go 80s movie night tonight.

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[quote=SunnySide;1302814]I miss Billy Crystal.

Might have to go 80s movie night tonight.[/quote]

He's not dead.

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Well you all know my opinion of Trump, but here is one thing he got right.

Exactly four years ago, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) repealed the internet regulation known as net neutrality, which had forced internet service providers (ISPs) to treat all content identically in terms of download and streaming speeds, for instance......


[url]https://reason.com/2021/12/15/net-neutrality-fcc-repeal-internet-faster-better/[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1304244]Well you all know my opinion of Trump, but here is one thing he got right.

Exactly four years ago, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) repealed the internet regulation known as net neutrality, which had forced internet service providers (ISPs) to treat all content identically in terms of download and streaming speeds, for instance......


[url]https://reason.com/2021/12/15/net-neutrality-fcc-repeal-internet-faster-better/[/url][/quote]

........you really think trumps knows what the internet is?

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[quote=Giantone;1304273]........you really think trumps knows what the internet is?[/quote]

OK I'll give you that. How about here is something Republicans got right and the Dems were wrong about.

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Good [url]https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/corporate-news/586259-judge-overturns-purdue-pharma-sackler-deal-over-clauses[/url]

Personally I don't think business should be allowed to declare bankruptcy only individuals.

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[quote=Giantone;1304273]........you really think trumps knows what the internet is?[/quote]

you mean the cyber?

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[quote=nonniey;1304244]Well you all know my opinion of Trump, but here is one thing he got right.

Exactly four years ago, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) repealed the internet regulation known as net neutrality, which had forced internet service providers (ISPs) to treat all content identically in terms of download and streaming speeds, for instance......


[url]https://reason.com/2021/12/15/net-neutrality-fcc-repeal-internet-faster-better/[/url][/quote]

I'll say it is a success when rural areas have the same infrastructure. These corporations make $ hand over fist in towns and then refuse to expand modern services outward.

Here is Harford exec Glassmans approach (he is another republican politician i am considering voting for at the state level when he runs). On the radio he said he is tired of corporations coming into Harford County to make $ and not reinvesting back into the county
[url]https://patch.com/maryland/belair/harford-announces-partnership-bring-broadband-rural-north[/url]

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Still remember when Al Gore take credit for creating the internet

Dope

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1304291]I'll say it is a success when rural areas have the same infrastructure. These corporations make $ hand over fist in towns and then refuse to expand modern services outward.

Here is Harford exec Glassmans approach (he is another republican politician i am considering voting for at the state level when he runs). On the radio he said he is tired of corporations coming into Harford County to make $ and not reinvesting back into the county
[url]https://patch.com/maryland/belair/harford-announces-partnership-bring-broadband-rural-north[/url][/quote]

Completely different subject and in fact one of the criticisms prior it being it being put into effect in 2014 is that it would hamper infrastructure development, which in fact was born out in the 3 years it was in effect. It turned out to be bad policy and even most of it's advocates now acknowledge that.

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Perhaps you can explain it better to me then. My understanding is that offering neighbors an inferior product at the same price was something net neutrality was supposed to prevent? Thus people in Bel Air having high speed FiOs versus people in Jarrettsville having DSL yet both paying the same price? I really don't know enough but any time a business is advocating to be deregulated it is a red flag to me.

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Ok so the end of the internet didn't happen. But I thought the repeal was supposed to bring competition, lower prices, expanded and better services? Has the consumer benefited at all?

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[quote=MTK;1304377]Ok so the end of the internet didn't happen. But I thought the repeal was supposed to bring competition, lower prices, expanded and better services? Has the consumer benefited at all?[/quote]

The article indicated it did. Investment in internet infrastructure resumed at a more accelerated rate which brought better services. Throttling of course never occurred.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1304370]Perhaps you can explain it better to me then. My understanding is that offering neighbors an inferior product at the same price was something net neutrality was supposed to prevent? Thus people in Bel Air having high speed FiOs versus people in Jarrettsville having DSL yet both paying the same price? I really don't know enough but any time a business is advocating to be deregulated it is a red flag to me.[/quote]

No net neutrality was supposed to prevent offering the product for varying prices within the capabilities of the service in an area. Service providers aren't reducing service in rural areas in order to provide faster service in Bel Air they are providing the max that they are capable of providing with the systems they have in each area.

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[quote=nonniey;1304411[B]][B]No net neutrality was supposed to prevent offering the product for varying prices within the capabilities of the service in an area.[/B][/B] Service providers aren't reducing service in rural areas in order to provide faster service in Bel Air they are providing the max that they are capable of providing with the systems they have in each area.[/quote]

and this doesn't happen?

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[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10323411/What-planet-VP-Harris-claims-Biden-administration-did-NOT-Delta-Omicron-coming.html[/url]

We have not been victorious over it': Kamala takes a swipe at Joe for declaring independence from COVID on July 4 – and blames scientists for failing to see Omicron or Delta coming

Kamala Harris on Friday spoke to The Los Angeles Times and discussed the new surge of Covid-19 infections
She said that the US government had been taken by surprise by the emergence of both Delta and Omicron
Harris said that they were unsighted because 'most scientists - upon whose advice and direction we have relied - didn't see Delta coming'

Just wow folks…I think Delta was identified when Trump was in the White House. VP is a disaster, and this exchange looks to be cringe:

So who's the real president of this country? Is it Joe Manchin or Joe Biden?' asked Charlamagne, whose real name Lenard Larry McKelvey, during his Comedy Central show.

'Come on, Charlamagne,' Harris said. 'Come on. It's Joe Biden.'

Charlamagne replied: 'I can't tell sometimes.'

Harris, grew visibly angry, wagged her finger at the host and said: 'No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

'It's Joe Biden, and don't start talking like a Republican about asking whether or not he's president. And it's Joe Biden. And I'm vice president and my name is Kamala Harris.'

The heated exchange came after Harris's outgoing aide Symone Sanders tried to cut off the interview.

Sanders, could be heard off-camera on the other end of the remote interview, shouting: 'I'm so sorry Charlamagne, it's Symone, we have to wrap.'

'She can hear me,' Charlamagne chuckled.

Sanders responded: 'Can you hear me now? I'm sorry but we have to wrap. I'm sorry to interrupt.'

'They're acting like they can't hear me, yo,' Charlamagne said, turning to a producer off-camera, implying that Harris's team is faking technical issues.

Harris, looking tense, stared at Charlamagne and replied, 'I can hear you,' allowing the interviewer to finally continue with his question.


Just amazing…this trend of the White House handlers always try to stop the press or end interviews when Biden or Harris speaks is not normal. Never happened with the last administration. Why does this happen? Why is there a lack of transparency? Amazing silence from the left per the usual.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1304440]and this doesn't happen?[/quote]

I probably didn't explain it correctly or well as I know varying types of services are offered. But the throttling of service that were predicted and which Net Neutrality was supposed to prevent never occured. Bottomline Net Neutrality was a regulation to prevent something that hadn't been happening prior to it's implementation nor happened after it ended.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1304441][url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10323411/What-planet-VP-Harris-claims-Biden-administration-did-NOT-Delta-Omicron-coming.html[/url]

We have not been victorious over it': Kamala takes a swipe at Joe for declaring independence from COVID on July 4 – and blames scientists for failing to see Omicron or Delta coming

Kamala Harris on Friday spoke to The Los Angeles Times and discussed the new surge of Covid-19 infections
She said that the US government had been taken by surprise by the emergence of both Delta and Omicron
Harris said that they were unsighted because 'most scientists - upon whose advice and direction we have relied - didn't see Delta coming'

Just wow folks…I think Delta was identified when Trump was in the White House. VP is a disaster, and this exchange looks to be cringe:

So who's the real president of this country? Is it Joe Manchin or Joe Biden?' asked Charlamagne, whose real name Lenard Larry McKelvey, during his Comedy Central show.

'Come on, Charlamagne,' Harris said. 'Come on. It's Joe Biden.'

Charlamagne replied: 'I can't tell sometimes.'

Harris, grew visibly angry, wagged her finger at the host and said: 'No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

'It's Joe Biden, and don't start talking like a Republican about asking whether or not he's president. And it's Joe Biden. And I'm vice president and my name is Kamala Harris.'

The heated exchange came after Harris's outgoing aide Symone Sanders tried to cut off the interview.

Sanders, could be heard off-camera on the other end of the remote interview, shouting: 'I'm so sorry Charlamagne, it's Symone, we have to wrap.'

'She can hear me,' Charlamagne chuckled.

Sanders responded: 'Can you hear me now? I'm sorry but we have to wrap. I'm sorry to interrupt.'

'They're acting like they can't hear me, yo,' Charlamagne said, turning to a producer off-camera, implying that Harris's team is faking technical issues.

Harris, looking tense, stared at Charlamagne and replied, 'I can hear you,' allowing the interviewer to finally continue with his question.


Just amazing…this trend of the White House handlers always try to stop the press or end interviews when Biden or Harris speaks is not normal. Never happened with the last administration. Why does this happen? Why is there a lack of transparency? Amazing silence from the left per the usual.[/QUOTE]


I don’t ever remember anyone jumping on your bologna train for a single post. Like not one poster saying “good point Chico”, or “you got a point here Chico”. Just me and G -1 asking you if you are ok. You love to twist things and move goalposts, and just being completely nonsensical and biased.
All because you hate the fact that you championed the single biggest disaster in political history and for whatever reason can’t admit that you were wrong.

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It’s all good, I appreciate everyone’s differing opinions.

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[quote=nonniey;1304452]I probably didn't explain it correctly or well as I know varying types of services are offered. But the throttling of service that were predicted and which Net Neutrality was supposed to prevent never occured. Bottomline Net Neutrality was a regulation to prevent something that hadn't been happening prior to it's implementation nor happened after it ended.[/quote]

Got it I think so the regulation was moot and businesses thus far have just continued with their practices already in place.

What we really need IMO is a law that prevents throttling in the first place. When I hear of what Verizon did and how culpable they are for the Mendocino Fire in 2018 I get angry that we allow them to do what they did.

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[quote=punch it in;1304455]I don’t ever remember anyone jumping on your bologna train for a single post. Like not one poster saying “good point Chico”, or “you got a point here Chico”. ........[/quote]

No, I have on occasion and I believe I've seen one or two others as well. He's neither wrong nor right all the time. So far there has been only one person who posts here that has been right all the time, me of course, but everyone else has been right on some things and wrong on others.

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[quote=nonniey;1304469]No, I have on occasion and I believe I've seen one or two others as well. He's neither wrong nor right all the time. So far there has been only one person who posts here that has been right all the time, me of course, but everyone else has been right on some things and wrong on others.[/quote]

Actually you haven't but we all like you and never bother telling you .

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1304469]No, I have on occasion and I believe I've seen one or two others as well. He's neither wrong nor right all the time. So far there has been only one person who posts here that has been right all the time, me of course, but everyone else has been right on some things and wrong on others.[/QUOTE]


Lol

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1304459]It’s all good, I appreciate everyone’s differing opinions.[/QUOTE]


No you don’t. Lol.

The left is insane and the media is bias is your answer to anyones opinion. You gotta stop with the bias.

You cannot be as far to the right as you are and scream crimes of bias. There is nothing but bias when you are that far to one side. That is literally the definition of bias.

It is a like a guy in one teams jersey screaming at a guy in another teams jersey that he is biased! You’re both biased!

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So the Green New Deal is officially dead (for this session of Congress at least). Manchin stated he was a no. Big victory for McConnel as he maneuvered this outcome. Unfortunately for McConnel, the populist faction of the Republican party (Trumpers) are too stupid to realize he was behind the defeat of this legislation.

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[quote=punch it in;1304475]No you don’t. Lol.

The left is insane and the media is bias is your answer to anyones opinion. You gotta stop with the bias.

You cannot be as far to the right as you are and scream crimes of bias. There is nothing but bias when you are that far to one side. That is literally the definition of bias.

It is a like a guy in one teams jersey screaming at a guy in another teams jersey that he is biased! You’re both biased![/quote]

I’m based not biased

Well Joe Manchin just went on Fox News and said he is a firm no on Joe Biden socialism bill.

Gotta be honest, I’m a lil surprised they got nothing.