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MTK 02-09-2018 03:24 PM

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Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.

CRedskinsRule 02-09-2018 03:36 PM

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[quote=MTK;1188255]Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.[/quote]

I tend to disagree. I think JG is all upside and potential, and they had to sign him now. KC has a track record that places him in a certain pecking order, and no team is forced to sign him, there are other options.

I will be interested to see where his number comes down, and I would not be shocked to see him wait until after the draft to sign.

skinsfan69 02-09-2018 11:10 PM

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[quote=jamf;1188254]I'm not so sure he will get more than Jimmy G. I think the Garoppolo contract sets the ceiling for Kirk.

We've seen the best of KC and there is enough game to know exactly what you are getting.

Garoppolo arrived midseason for a 1 win team and won 5 in a row with three of those wins against playoff teams.

Garoppolo has a higher upside and is younger while KC is durable but is also a "Trust the process" QB.
I think Garoppolos momentum got him that contract and Kirks image has taken a hit lately.

I'm probably wrong since I thought he was going to get 28M Per last week but things have changed overnight.[/quote]

Could not agree more.

mooby 02-10-2018 12:21 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1188257]I tend to disagree. I think JG is all upside and potential, and they had to sign him now. KC has a track record that places him in a certain pecking order, and no team is forced to sign him, there are other options.

I will be interested to see where his number comes down, and I would not be shocked to see him wait until after the draft to sign.[/quote]

I feel like you're forgetting supply and demand. There aren't enough good qb's to go around, and Kirk is a good qb. All it takes is one.

NC_Skins 02-10-2018 12:24 AM

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[quote=MTK;1188255]Zero chance Kirk's deal doesn't exceed JG's.[/quote]

I have to agree with Matty on this. NO chance in hell he doesn't exceed JG's contract.

Schneed10 02-10-2018 08:10 AM

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Yeah you guys are losing the forest for the trees, it’s going to be a straight up bidding war for Kirk. Remember, skill or potential doesn’t drive the market, leverage does.

Defensewins 02-10-2018 10:05 AM

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There is the small chance that Kirk takes slightly less money to be on a talented winning team or a team that is a QB away from being great. But does not have a Ton of cap space. Denver?

Schneed10 02-10-2018 10:13 AM

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I would say that if Denver has to clear the space for Kirk, they will be neither talented nor particularly winning.

CRedskinsRule 02-10-2018 02:03 PM

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This is an odd year for Qb's. You have probably 3 or 4 similar guys available either as FA or through trades that are NFL quality but not elite.

For example If Denver could get Foles for their 2nd and a player like they tried for AS, that would be preferable for their salary cap then KC and cutting players. Case Keenum likewise fits AR as well as KC but at half the cost.

KC exaggerated his value with two FT in a row and showed himself likely to be difficult to negotiate with. Teams will look at all of that. Then teams still have several quality options in the draft.

Bottom line Kirks number is closer to AS worth than an elite top level QB, and teams have more options than might be normally available.

MTK 02-10-2018 03:57 PM

The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
KC is going to get paid. Sorry but he’s not getting Alex Smith money. He’s set to be the top free agent period and will have multiple teams after him.

sdskinsfan2001 02-10-2018 04:39 PM

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AS > KC all day based on contracts and team chemistry. I think a QB that goes 8-8ish every year that is making 30 million dollars is terrible for team chemistry. Eventually guys are gonna resent not just that you're making that much, but that the team can't sign or keep other guys because you're making that much. Excited to move on and we'll draft our long term future QB to learn for a year or 2 next draft.

OmahaRedskins 02-10-2018 07:46 PM

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KC will be the highest paid player until the Rodgers deal.

CRedskinsRule 02-10-2018 07:56 PM

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[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1188292]KC will be the highest paid player until the Rodgers deal.[/QUOTE]You think he gets more than Brews? No way.

Giantone 02-10-2018 09:01 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1188293]You think he gets more than Brews? No way.[/quote]

You mean Brees ,right ,or does he get paid in beer?

CRedskinsRule 02-10-2018 09:30 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1188294]You mean Brees ,right ,or does he get paid in beer?[/QUOTE]Lol. Yup. 32M beers a year.

Yes Brees


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