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SmootSmack 10-13-2009 12:54 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;607737]While I'm sure those adjustments helped, the x-factor was the 106.4 passer rating. His play completely re-energized our team.[/quote]

His play, o line changes, improved running game, Smoot and Springs playing lighs out, the emotions running through the team, Collins' knowledge of the offense, etc.

MonkFan4Life 10-13-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Ruhskins;607739]Collins would be a sitting duck right now with our o-line...at least JC is a running duck.[/quote]

He just may but I doubt we would've scored 9 points against the Rams. I doubt that the games would be as close against lesser competition. Before Samuels and Thomas went down there was the exact same production from the offense that we've seen through the 2 systems that Campbell has played under since being a starter here. His stats look good by the time the game is over but there aren't many points scored. Everyone needs to come to the realization that Danny was right about him. He believed in Jason and when he lost his faith in him he lost it. I wish JC well in his future endeavors but I doubt he'll be the stud that people think Washington is keeping him from becoming.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-13-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;607737]While I'm sure those adjustments helped, the x-factor was the 106.4 passer rating. His play completely re-energized our team.[/quote]Collins looked good against Seattle in the playoffs, right? The guy is a career backup for a reason, game manager only, zero upside. What would be the point of putting him in now? Maybe by effective game management he could account for 1 win, maybe 2. That leaves us at 6-10 or 7-9, right where we want to be to rebuild ???? He is extremely slow with a weak arm.

Putting Collins in completely stops the evaluation of JC and if JC isn't the guy doesn't allow us to look at Woodson.

firstdown 10-13-2009 01:28 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=SmootSmack;607743]His play, o line changes, improved running game, Smoot and Springs playing lighs out, the emotions running through the team, Collins' knowledge of the offense, etc.[/quote]

Whats playing lighs out?

SmootSmack 10-13-2009 01:50 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=firstdown;607775]Whats playing lighs out?[/quote]

aka super smart aka fighting their guts out

The last 4 games of 2007 Springs had something like 15 tackles, 10 passes defended and 4 interceptions

Smoot didn't have quite the stats but he made some huge tackles as I recall

CultBrennan59 10-13-2009 01:53 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
Chase Daniels is a FA

Monkeydad 10-13-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;607793]Chase Daniels is a FA[/quote]

Never heard of anyone named Chase Daniels.

Monkeydad 10-13-2009 02:58 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Ruhskins;607739]Collins would be a sitting duck right now with our o-line...at least JC is a running duck.[/quote]

Exactly. People calling for Collins are also conveniently forgetting that he played in the Saunders system for a decade and knew the plays inside and out. He could have thrown those balls with his eyes closed.

We no longer run that offense.

His arm looked incredibly weak in the preseason too.

TC could never duplicate that stretch of games again.

DAVID 10-13-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
Jason sucks, it's been like that for past years!

Monkeydad 10-19-2009 10:20 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
UPDATED stats/assessment...yep, I said I'd keep doing it! :laughing2

Cutler:
WK 6 - 24/43 (62.8%), 300 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT, 79.6 rating, 34 rush yds
TOTAL: 110/172 (64.0%), 1,201 yds, 10 TD, 7 INT, 86.9 rating, 56 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 6 - [B]10/29[/B] ([B]34.5%[/B]), 119 yds, 0 TD, [B]5 INT[/B], [B]8.3 rating[/B], 6 rush yds
TOTAL: 85/163 (52.1%), 1,035 yds, [B]5 TD, 10 INT[/B], [B]56.7 rating[/B], 50 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 6 (half) - 9/16 (56.3%), 89 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 46.1 rating, 6 rush yds
TOTAL: 107/163 (65.6%), 1,197 yds, 6 TD, 6 INT, 84.3 rating, 95 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell, Cutler, Sanchez
Yds = Cutler (1,201) Campbell (1,197), Sanchez (1,035)
TDs = Cutler (10), Campbell (6), Sanchez (5)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (6), Cutler (7), [B]Sanchez (10)[/B]
QB rating = Cutler (86.9), Campbell (84.3), [B]Sanchez (56.7)[/B]
Rush yds = Campbell (95), Cutler (56), Sanchez(50)






Anyone still want Sanchez? :rofl:

Cutler is beginning to look slightly better than Campbell in yards and TDs, but really, statistically there is not much of a difference and Jason still leads in a few categories. Of course, Cutler has played 2 more quarters than Campbell, but the separation is not drastic in those few categories. Also, Campbell still proves to be the most efficient (completion %), least turnover-prone and still the best runner when in trouble by far.

Green1 10-19-2009 10:46 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
Those of you who called for Todd Collins do you really think he played better that JC vs the chiefs?

Monkeydad 10-19-2009 10:55 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Green1;611786]Those of you who called for Todd Collins do you really think he played better that JC vs the chiefs?[/quote]

Yeah, those people are being proven to be looney too...like the Sanchez lovers. :doh:

Cutler's numbers are so minimally-better than Campbell's that it's obvious that even if he were on the Redskins this season, he's be no better or worse than Campbell.

With Vinny in charge of building our O-line and Zorn calling plays (up until now)...Campbell was our best-bet for this season.

Trample the Elderly 10-19-2009 11:13 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.

hooskins 10-19-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;611816]That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.[/quote]

lol that doesnt really mean he should've been benched. It was a desperate move by Zorn to try to salvage his job. Zorn failed with the move, as TC sucks.

I dont think most coaches would have made that move as it is obvious JC is epically better than all other options the SKins have (TC).

Monkeydad 10-19-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;611816]That image of Campbell sitting on the bench doesn't lie either.[/quote]

So you support Zorn's decisions? Good for you. :D


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