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Also the biggest knock on the supp. draft in my opinion is that the player misses out on a bunch of camps and stuff and basically gets a late start compared to all the other rookies. So if the lockout is prolonged the supplemental draft may gain parity to the regular draft since the rookies from the regular draft may not get a head start or may have a shortened head start. Does anyone know the rules on the allowed contact between teams and new rookies? This year could end up sucking for rookie development.

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[quote=NC_Skins;790363]Kid has already had 2 alcohol related incidents already, and you want to thrust him into a market like DC? This is not going to end well if we did make that move.

2 red flags already with this guy. Pass.[/quote]

I don't see him as a problem child, he's a kid in college. He rolled through a stop sign and was pulled over by campus police. Is it excusable that he was over the legal limit? No, but I think a much bigger deal is being made of this than need be. And if he wasn't a Division 1 star, probably no one even hears of it.

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[quote=mlmpetert;790373]Also the biggest knock on the supp. draft in my opinion is that the player misses out on a bunch of camps and stuff and basically gets a late start compared to all the other rookies. So if the lockout is prolonged the supplemental draft may gain parity to the regular draft since the rookies from the regular draft may not get a head start or may have a shortened head start. Does anyone know the rules on the allowed contact between teams and new rookies? This year could end up sucking for rookie development.[/quote]

No contact allowed at all

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Recap of Todd McShay's conference call with area reporters.

[url=http://fans.redskinsrule.com/_McShay-talks-McDraft/blog/3407113/54110.html]McShay talks McDraft - Redskins Rule Blog post - Ultimate Fan Community[/url]

I wonder where the team stands at NT (as in are they comfortable with Bryant). Because they could trade down to the bottom of the first round, get Phil Taylor, pick up a QB in the 2nd, and get probably another 2nd or a 3rd rounder.

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[quote=Angry;790365]As long as he can play like John Riggins drunk I'm all for it.

I am not buying the red flag BS anymore. All high character guys give you is a disciplined locker room, not x's in the "W" column. As long as he plays great on sunday he can hang out with Big Ben in Georgia for all I care anymore.

20 years of losing is enough.[/quote]

This isn't the 80's. No matter how good they are, it's not going to do your team a bit of good if he's suspended by the NFL for alcohol related events.


You aren't buying the "red flag BS" anymore? Guess who you have a ton in common with? Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. You are in good company.

Believe it or not, leadership accounts for more than you can imagine. Teddy Bruschi comes to mind.

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Word is NE is interested in trading the 28th pick. Hmm maybe we give up our 2nd to go get Locker in the late first..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;790382]Word is NE is interested in trading the 28th pick. Hmm maybe we give up our 2nd to go get Locker in the late first..[/quote]

Which way, because I've never known New England to be the type to move up in the first round.

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[quote=NC_Skins;790380]This isn't the 80's. No matter how good they are, it's not going to do your team a bit of good if he's suspended by the NFL for alcohol related events.


You aren't buying the "red flag BS" anymore? Guess who you have a ton in common with? Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. You are in good company.

Believe it or not, leadership accounts for more than you can imagine. Teddy Bruschi comes to mind.[/quote]

I think you & Angry are portaying this as either/or. Sure, the kid has some bad history but he may be smart & mature enough that he'll be able to deal w/it. At the same time, I certainly agree that team can't & won't just ignore this stuff.

For the right price, it's worth the risk. I always look back at Warren Sapp as the classic case of teams overeacting, he fell back out of the top 10 due to reports of a positve drug test. We passed on Sapp & got M. Westbrook instead. How'd that turn out?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;790382]Word is NE is interested in trading the 28th pick. Hmm maybe we give up our 2nd to go get Locker in the late first..[/quote]


After the whole Jason Campbell era, I'd never thought I'd see another Redskin fan want to move up into the first round to grab a another QB.

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[quote=NC_Skins;790380]This isn't the 80's. No matter how good they are, it's not going to do your team a bit of good if he's suspended by the NFL for alcohol related events.


You aren't buying the "red flag BS" anymore? Guess who you have a ton in common with? Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. You are in good company.

Believe it or not, leadership accounts for more than you can imagine. Teddy Bruschi comes to mind.[/quote]

What are you talking about? Even after Gibbs left Vinny and Danny were going after the high character guys.

You only need 1 or 2 leaders on the field at a time. After that you need players. Ever heard of "too many chiefs and not enough Indians"?

Think about the guys that slipped in the draft because of Red flags and went on to be very successful.

Randy Moss comes to mind.

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[quote=NC_Skins;790380]This isn't the 80's. No matter how good they are, it's not going to do your team a bit of good if he's suspended by the NFL for alcohol related events.


You aren't buying the "red flag BS" anymore? Guess who you have a ton in common with? Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. You are in good company.

Believe it or not, leadership accounts for more than you can imagine. Teddy Bruschi comes to mind.[/quote]


The red flag stuff Danny and Vinny glossed over were the diva and im looking to get paid type mentalities, not the i made a mistake will i make one again type.

Teddy used to be a heavy drinker and made mistakes with alcohol when he was young, its what a lot of kids do.
[URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2005/01/16/bruschi_has_battled_on_off_field/"]Bruschi has battled on, off field - The Boston Globe[/URL]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;790384]Which way, because I've never known New England to be the type to move up in the first round.[/quote]


Move out of the first

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[quote=NC_Skins;790387]After the whole Jason Campbell era, I'd never thought I'd see another Redskin fan want to move up into the first round to grab a another QB.[/quote]

LOL 2 times the charm?

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[quote=Ruhskins;790378]Recap of Todd McShay's conference call with area reporters.

[url=http://fans.redskinsrule.com/_McShay-talks-McDraft/blog/3407113/54110.html]McShay talks McDraft - Redskins Rule Blog post - Ultimate Fan Community[/url]

I wonder where the team stands at NT (as in are they comfortable with Bryant). Because they could trade down to the bottom of the first round, get Phil Taylor, pick up a QB in the 2nd, and get probably another 2nd or a 3rd rounder.[/quote]

Their preference would be to find a NT via free agency...but that preference might be out the window now

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Nick Fairely is quickly becoming the Albert Haynesworth of this draft. Undeniable talent but so many "ifs" being used to describe him. "if he's motivated" "if he plays hard" "if he's ready to handle the fame that comes with being an NFL player." Still it's kind of funny seeing Marcell Dareus pass him after our love affair with Fairley during the National Championship game.