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[quote=donofriose;1061227]It is a one year deal. It won't impact them as much as a multi year deal would.

And going out and signing a bunch of free agents as proven to fail over and over again.

He is not elite but he is on a one year contract. It won't have a huge impact on any future plans they might have.[/quote]

If it's for 1yr why do it?

Is this the Super bowl year?

Why commit to a one year 11+ million dollar contract when that money can be put into maybe 2 starters? If he thinks he can get 12 million a year, what do you do after this year when he is still demanding 12 mil. per, cut him then?

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Franchising him doesn't mean talks stop. The goal for both sides is still a long term deal.

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Let his contract expire if you have the ability to replace him, bottom line is the skins cannot replace him this year. I am sure Haslett wants this guy around for his new defense as well. We can still build a solid team with Rak's one year franchise deal. Hell we won the division without 18mil of cap space. Everybody wants to keep going back two years so let's do it with the cap as well.

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Kind of torn on this Rak thing, IMO not elite dosent have a 2nd or 3rd move what is he working on in the off season, but we need to keep him. Can't blame him for wanting to make top dollar, QB'S do the same there's no I in TEAM until contract time. Hopefully they can work something out. HTTR.

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Dont believe that crap about they are debating on wether or not to franchise Orakpo. They are either signing him to a long term deal or franchising him. Period. 2014 He is a Redskin(as long as our name does not change).

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1061138]To be honest I'd rather give the money for Orakpo towards Byrd. Safety has been an much bigger area of weakness for several years now for us and I feel there are players on the market and in the draft we could get to fill orakpos spot. Like I've said before I'd love to keep the guy but he's misguided thinking he should be getting paid D.Ware type money.[/quote]

So let me get this straight; you want to let our best defensive player, a guy who's proven he can perform at a high level on our defense, walk, while giving a huge contract to a FA safety who we don't even know would perform at a high level on our defense?

That sounds like a championship recipe to me.

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1061191][url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10544512]NFL Redskins to franchise Brian Orakpo - ESPN[/url]

Here is Kiem's article link.[/quote]

Excellent; I would have preferred a long-term deal, but this is better than letting him walk. Orakpo is our defense's best player and we need him if we want to build a good defense.

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[quote=Mattyk;1061175]That's certainly glossing over things. Many other factors at play.[/quote]

Agreed. But Jackson, although not the pass rusher or athlete that Rak is, just seemed to make more plays. I think we all want him back, but not for 10-12 million a year.

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To improve our pass rush (and add to Orakpo's value) we need to get more push out of our DE's. My plans would include improving this position.

1. Ideally, I would sign either Randy Starks or Michael Johnson.

or

2. If Brandon Jenkins is ready to handle 3rd down pash rushing duties, I'd move Ryan Kerrigan inside against a guard on obvious passing downs.

3. Hopefully, Chris Baker will lose some weight and gain some speed and quickness to help with his pass rush. Jarvis Jenkins might improve, as well, in his second season after knee surgery.

4. Carriker and Bowen need to be cut to clear more cap space.

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[B]@HTTR24_7

Assuming Werder's report is true, I hate the fact that Haz won out over Morroco & Scott.How do you let a coach who could be gone in a year have that pull? [/B]


/agree


Haz shouldn't have any say so.


[quote=Chico23231;1061195]Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.[/quote]

When did he say that?

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Skins Twitter just announced we tagged him

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1061234] Hell we won the division without 18mil of cap space[/quote]


...and we won it WITHOUT Orakpo.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1061254][B]@HTTR24_7

Assuming Werder's report is true, I hate the fact that Haz won out over Morroco & Scott.How do you let a coach who could be gone in a year have that pull? [/B]


/agree


Haz shouldn't have any say so.
...[/QUOTE]

I guess you could argue if Haz has one year to make or break it, then in terms of a 1yr tag he ought to get a big say, unless the scouts are saying an option is out there that provides a significant long term upgrade.

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This is going to be a complete failure of a coaching staff. I do not expect this staff to last long.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-apply-franchise-tag-orakpo]Redskins apply franchise tag to Orakpo | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]


No way in fucking hell should Haz have ANY say so. ANY. Hell, the guy shouldn't even have a job now.



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[quote=NC_Skins;1061258]This is going to be a complete failure of a coaching staff. I do not expect this staff to last long.

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-apply-franchise-tag-orakpo"]Redskins apply franchise tag to Orakpo | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/URL]


No way in fucking hell should Haz have ANY say so. ANY. Hell, the guy shouldn't even have a job now.[/quote]
Yeah, you are so right. The defensive Coordinator should have no say in his players. Especialy when it is a one year deal and he may only be there one year. Come on MAN, think about what are you saying.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1061261]Yeah, you are so right. The defensive Coordinator should have no say in his players. Especialy when it is a one year deal and he may only be there one year. Come on MAN, think about what are you saying.[/quote]

If he were a good defensive coordinator, I might would agree with you.