Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=SunnySide;1249112]I still think Trent doesnt report until week 8, if he is not traded or renewed.

get what you can.

Comp pick is a back end 5th.[/quote]

Not doable with the new CBA. If he doesn't show up for training camp, he loses his final accrued season towards FA. And if he leaves camp for more than 5 days he also loses it. Not sure the Redskins can waive that either (they can't waive the daily fines he also accrues if he misses camp).

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Everytime a new post pops up in this thread I hope it's someone breaking the news 1st that we finally traded him. One day this will be the case.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=mooby;1249147]Not doable with the new CBA. If he doesn't show up for training camp, he loses his final accrued season towards FA. And if he leaves camp for more than 5 days he also loses it. Not sure the Redskins can waive that either (they can't waive the daily fines he also accrues if he misses camp).[/quote]

Before the details of the CBA were made public, this is what was reported, but turns out it’s not quite true. Several weeks ago, it was clarified that losing the accrued season only applies to players with less than 3 or 4 years in the league. Trent is a vested veteran, so the rule does not apply to him. The part that still does apply is the fines, and that the team is not allowed to waive them. So Trent can hold out as long as he did last year as long as he’s ok losing the money.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1249168]Before the details of the CBA were made public, this is what was reported, but turns out it’s not quite true. Several weeks ago, it was clarified that losing the accrued season only applies to players with less than 3 or 4 years in the league. Trent is a vested veteran, so the rule does not apply to him. The part that still does apply is the fines, and that the team is not allowed to waive them. So Trent can hold out as long as he did last year as long as he’s ok losing the money.[/quote]

Source? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this is the first time I'm hearing about this. Game changer if true.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=mooby;1249177]Source? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this is the first time I'm hearing about this. Game changer if true.[/quote]


I heard it in sheehans, Keim’s and Finlays podcasts, but i did some googling and found it here:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/24/trent-williams-trade-demand/[/url]

At the bottom:

[quote] Correction: An earlier version of this article said that a clause in the NFL’s new collective bargaining agreement won’t allow veteran players to get credit for a season if they don’t report to training camp. In fact, this clause only applies to veteran players with three or fewer NFL seasons. Players who have been in the NFL for more than three seasons will face daily $50,000 fines but will not lose credit for their season if they fail to report for training camp [/quote]

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Trent not sitting this year or missing time. It would tarnish his brand and teams not gonna bother with him after sitting two years, that’s too long. The deal he would get wouldn’t have a lot of guaranteed money money..and that’s been the sticking point all along.

Trents playing this year, stone cold lock

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1249190]I heard it in sheehans, Keim’s and Finlays podcasts, but i did some googling and found it here:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/24/trent-williams-trade-demand/[/url]

At the bottom:[/quote]

Thanks. Yeah that makes a big difference. Idk what happens but I don't see that being a scenario, I think Trent goes to the highest bidder on draft weekend.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=mooby;1249201]Thanks. Yeah that makes a big difference. Idk what happens but I don't see that being a scenario, I think Trent goes to the highest bidder on draft weekend.[/quote]I would be ecstatic if we traded him for a solid pick(s) on draft day. Really, really hope that happens.

HTTR!

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

JP said this morning that there is no chance the skins get anything higher than a 4th for Trent.. Even said there has been very little discussion of a trade

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1249296]JP said this morning that there is no chance the skins get anything higher than a 4th for Trent.. Even said there has been very little discussion of a trade[/quote]

Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return. BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Sorry not giving Trent away for a 4th. If that's the case play for the Redskins this year or sit out and lose a shit ton more money.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=GridIron26;1249298]Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return. BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.[/quote]

I don't think he'd sit 2 years in a row.. If they can't deal him then make him play

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=MTK;1249300]Sorry not giving Trent away for a 4th. If that's the case play for the Redskins this year or sit out and lose a shit ton more money.[/quote]

exactly

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Seattle may have interest:

[url]https://heavy.com/sports/2020/04/trent-williams-seahawks-trade-rumors/[/url]

Still think we get a 3rd for him minimally. He is worth at least that. If this goes past draft day, that is bad news. This has been going on for way too long now. A divorce is highly necessary.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=GridIron26;1249298]Geez.. I'm not sure how I want Redskins to handle this - I definitely do not want Redskins to simply give away Williams without getting a good compensation in return.[B] BUT I want this problem to go away ASAP so Redskins can move forward with the players who want to play for Redskins.[/B][/quote]

I agree on the bolded part. In this first year of a team build where a culture change is the foundation I do not want a high profile disgruntled player in the building. Truly, if I were in RR's shoes I would cut him and take the comp pick before I allowed him to be around my team every day.