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EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 10:40 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=GoSkins!;300142]If we pick Landry it will immediately free Taylor up to play up in the box (like having an extra LB). That will give teams trouble scheming for the defense. That is exactly the kind of thing that Greg Williams loves. We addressed and drafted DL last year. I don't doubt that Williams wants Landry.

We will know in about a week.[/quote]


yes we will 8 days we will hear: "With the 6th pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select LaRon Landry Safety, LSU

diehardskin2982 04-20-2007 10:41 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
Any great secondary can be destroyed by a good QB with no Pass rush on him. Landry would be awesome for our team but there are a few concerns I have if we were to pick him vs.our need (DL).

1. ST regressed this year and from all accounts I've heard and Williams defensive scheme for safeties is very complex. So do you neccesrily want a player who regressed and a rookie in the backfield calling coverages?

2. Who will play SS? FS?

3. Which position if filled with talent and youth would have a greater effect on the team as a hole, Seriously how long do u think of our dline could last with the age and history of injuries that it has on it?

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 10:48 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;300162]Any great secondary can be destroyed by a good QB with no Pass rush on him. Landry would be awesome for our team but there are a few concerns I have if we were to pick him vs.our need (DL).

1. ST regressed this year and from all accounts I've heard and Williams defensive scheme for safeties is very complex. So do you neccesrily want a player who regressed and a rookie in the backfield calling coverages?

2. Who will play SS? FS?

3. Which position if filled with talent and youth would have a greater effect on the team as a hole, Seriously how long do u think of our dline could last with the age and history of inuries that it has on it?[/quote]


To answer you're questions in order

1. yes i do taylor regressed mainly and he said this himself " I really need help in the defensive backfield no pierson, no ryan, no sean" landry perfect player to ply opposite taylor

2. They will switch off but Landry will play Free Safety most often for 2 reasons one: he is faster than taylor 2. taylor would be a better player in the box although they both would be great

3. safety cause once again youy can find a gem in the later rounds or if we would just sign ian scott already but i would prefer the safety our players will be healthy by opening day and i think that the d line will be back to the 2005 form at the end

TheMalcolmConnection 04-20-2007 10:53 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
What did you think of Ian Scott's play last year or in 2005 EARTHQUAKE?

SmootSmack 04-20-2007 11:13 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
Something is up with Ian Scott. The Bengals have canceled his visit. I think I heard the Falcons were going to as well. The Bears have said they will not bring him back unlesss he signs for the minimum. It's all very strange

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 11:37 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;300178]What did you think of Ian Scott's play last year or in 2005 EARTHQUAKE?[/quote]

ian scott's play last year was pretty good seeing as he played sparingly i am saying we should sign him cause he would be good depth and i dont understand why we havent tried to sign a defensive lineman yet

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 11:40 AM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=SmootSmack;300201]Something is up with Ian Scott. The Bengals have canceled his visit. I think I heard the Falcons were going to as well. The Bears have said they will not bring him back unlesss he signs for the minimum. It's all very strange[/quote]


i am starting to feel that but the bengals signed his visit cause they signed michael myers and the falcons are reportedly more interested in amobi okoye than scott that's why they cancelled butifhe came for a minimum value wouldnt you want him

Beemnseven 04-20-2007 12:18 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;300201]Something is up with Ian Scott. The Bengals have canceled his visit. I think I heard the Falcons were going to as well. The Bears have said they will not bring him back unlesss he signs for the minimum. It's all very strange[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I figured there was a good reason why he wasn't swallowed up by somebody at this point.

Still, he's got to be better than Joe Salave'a.

JoeRedskin 04-20-2007 12:20 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
Although I have been an Okoye backer from way back, I would be more than fine with Landry. As has been pointed out, top safeties have been a pretty safe pick the last few years. Teaming Landry with Taylor would create also sorts of options for the coaching staff. While Landry is faster, Taylor is no slouch and I am fine with him in coverage and that would create a real guessing game for opposing offenses.

(The times ST blew coverages, it looked to me be a mental mistake that may have occurred b/c he was trying to do too much; I rarely saw him "beat" from a purely physical point of view. Perhaps with someone he trusts on the other side, ST would not need to think so much and just play.)

While a safety generally is not going to make up for lack of pressure, perhaps with two elite safeties, their can be greater use of the safety as an extra player at one level of the field (as an extra pass rusher, lb, or cb given the skill sets involved). Last year Baltimore used Adalius Thomas all over the field, I think ST is a more gifted athelete than Thomas and could be used in a similar manner AS LONG AS there is a good safety who has the final line of defense covered. Landry seems to be that kind of safety.

Beemnseven 04-20-2007 12:20 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;300147]While I definitely see your point that they're another year older and another year slower, reason just refuses to let me believe their play would decline THAT part in just one season. Unless there is a significant injury, I just feel like it's more of a gradual decline and not a total drop off. Again, let me reiterate by saying that Okoye is still my top choice. I just think with our middle held down by Fletcher this year, our run defense (even if we're stuck with the same guys in the middle) will be much improved.[/QUOTE]

Well, I can only tell you what Charles Mann said on a Redskin postgame show last year. He said he got old in as short a time span as the flight from Washington to San Fransisco when he left to play for the 49ers in 1994. He said it can happen that quick.

Beemnseven 04-20-2007 12:23 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
According to Mel Kiper, Landry's only glitch is pass coverage. Would that be enough to dissuade the love for Landry knowing we just got rid of a safety like that?

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 12:26 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=Beemnseven;300247]According to Mel Kiper, Landry's only glitch is pass coverage. Would that be enough to dissuade the love for Landry knowing we just got rid of a safety like that?[/quote]


mel kiper is a dumbass for saying that he must have not seen the landry i was watching

sbaughone 04-20-2007 01:50 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
roy williams sucks. let's keep him out of any comparisons.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-20-2007 01:54 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=sbaughone;300281]roy williams sucks. let's keep him out of any comparisons.[/quote]


landry and taylor doesnt it sound great

MTK 04-20-2007 01:54 PM

Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry
 
[quote=Beemnseven;300247]According to Mel Kiper, Landry's only glitch is pass coverage. Would that be enough to dissuade the love for Landry knowing we just got rid of a safety like that?[/quote]

I'd find it hard to believe he could be as bad as AA.


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