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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;332484]If JC struggles mightily or gets hurt, Mark Brunell is the only chance this team has to go anywhere.[/quote]

If Brunell becomes the only chance this team has to go anywhere at any point in this season, I'm divorcing myself from the Washington Redskins. All Brunell has ever proven in Washington is that if every other part of the team is performing perfectly, he can be relied on to not eff if up, and that was two seasons ago.

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[quote=Southpaw;332493]If Brunell becomes the only chance this team has to go anywhere at any point in this season, I'm divorcing myself from the Washington Redskins. All Brunell has ever proven in Washington is that if every other part of the team is performing perfectly, he can be relied on to not eff if up, and that was two seasons ago.[/quote]


Who else do you expect to pick the slack if JC gets hurt? Collins? Bramlet? Palmer?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;332500]Who else do you expect to pick the slack if JC gets hurt? Collins? Bramlet? Palmer?[/quote]

I guess it depends on your personal preference. Im my mind it's just as bad or worse to give up(throw it away on 4th down, take a sack, etc.) when you're losing by two scores as it is to turn the ball over while trying to make a play, so I'd prefer one of the young guns.

My point is, the slack won't be picked up at all if Campbell goes down. Brunell may be able to fill in for a week, but if the season hangs in the balance, and Brunell is the savior, we're screwed.

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[QUOTE=firstdown;332480]It probably was but Gibbs is so in love with Brunell that he benched the guy for his man. If he didn't bench Ramsey he would be here now as our starter but instead Gibbs crushed the guys igo and ruined him as a QB.[/QUOTE]

Well we've already stated in several posts that Ramsey in fact wasn't the last Redskins QB to throw for 300 yards so...

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;332503]I guess it depends on your personal preference. Im my mind it's just as bad or worse to give up(throw it away on 4th down, take a sack, etc.) when you're losing by two scores as it is to turn the ball over while trying to make a play, so I'd prefer one of the young guns.

My point is, the slack won't be picked up at all if Campbell goes down. Brunell may be able to fill in for a week, but if the season hangs in the balance, and Brunell is the savior, we're screwed.[/QUOTE]

You might want to get your divorce papers ready because if the skins start slow, JC struggles, and it looks like the season is slipping away then Gibbs will go to MB to try to salvage the season.

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

Maybe Brunell for Antwaan Lake?

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=44Dive;332518]Maybe Brunell for [B]Antwaan Lake[/B]?[/quote]
who the hell is this? and if the skins are going to make a playoff push, Brunell needs to stay put

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[quote=Southpaw;332503]I guess it depends on your personal preference. Im my mind it's just as bad or worse to give up(throw it away on 4th down, take a sack, etc.) when you're losing by two scores as it is to turn the ball over while trying to make a play, so I'd prefer one of the young guns.

My point is, the slack won't be picked up at all if Campbell goes down. Brunell may be able to fill in for a week, but if the season hangs in the balance, and Brunell is the savior, we're screwed.[/quote]Is there any reason to assume that if Campbell got hurt, Brunell couldn't come in and do exactly what he did last year? Assuming that, is there any reason to assume that the controlled passing game of last year that relied on the skill players to be skilled would not work this season?

Giving up is not really a fault of Brunell. Brunell's main fault is that he is a horribly god awful passer under pressure. Solution: keep Brunell from getting pressured. This assumption that old guys don't care about winning and losing is not only absured by conventional methods, but also statistically incorrect.

My personal preference would be the best guy for the job, and assuming that Bramlet is no better than a replacement level NFL QB, it's Brunell in a landslide.

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=44Dive;332518]Maybe Brunell for Antwaan Lake?[/quote]

How did the Saints get in the mix? Last time I checked they have a pretty damn good QB, and aren't shopping for a backup?

This DE, Lake. What are you talking about on this one? Mark for Lake makes NO sense?

Please explain your thinking on this move?

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=firstdown;332480]It probably was but Gibbs is so in love with Brunell that he benched the guy for his man. If he didn't bench Ramsey he would be here now as our starter but instead Gibbs crushed the guys igo and ruined him as a QB.[/quote]

Hmmmm it was not Gibbs that ruined Patrick, think back a little further.. Does Spurrier come to mind? that did it for him getting sacked , hit or rushed everytime with no protection......not Gibbs.
OH and Patrick is lighting it up now isn't he?

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;332350]What about John Abraham for MB straight up.[/quote]


I love it.

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I don't see where anyone "ruined" Ramsey, maybe he just isn't that good after all?

He took a heck of a beating at Tulane too, so I really don't fault Spurrier that much.

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Ramsey was just downhill from day one. I cant remember but didnt he hold out. He just wasnt accurate, had a nice arm but his main problem was that he tried to force too many things, didnt relax and get comfortable in the pocket. His downfall was imminent from his first starting day.

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The rap I heard on Ramsey was that he is none too bright. Same as Shuler, who reportedly struggled to learn Norv Turner's system.

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

to me Ramsey just plain sucked. he just wasnt an NFL starting QB.