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BleedBurgundy 12-11-2007 10:00 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;391892]Is it just me or are we spending way too much time this week talking about the Patriots??[/QUOTE]

Well, yeah. But we have already seemingly KILLED every other subject. I'm sure a lot of team's boards are doing the same thing as they approach 16-0. Probably wouldn't be such a big deal if they weren't so easy to dislike.

Lady Brave 12-11-2007 10:03 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;391892]Is it just me or are we spending way too much time this week talking about the Patriots??[/quote]
We are slowly being assimilated. I fear they may have already gotten to 12thMan. :(

12thMan 12-11-2007 10:05 AM

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[quote=Lady Brave;391896]We are slowly being assimilated. I fear they may have already gotten to 12thMan. :([/quote]

I'm drifting to the dark side, LB.

skinsfan69 12-11-2007 10:05 AM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;391886]A. Smith was an idiot and deserved whatever trash-talking came his way. That said, TB is still an a**.[/quote]

And as I said, if Brady was a Redskin, and he won 3 SB's for us, we'd all be on his jock.

What I find so funny is people that really know football, know that Brady is one of the hardest working guys on the pats. He's a true professional and studies his craft. You don't become as good as he is w/out putting in the time. Look how much better he is now then he was back in 01. It's like night and day. He can't help it the way he looks. Peyton Manning is the one who is on TV every 5 minutes, not Brady. I see Tomlinson and Bush on TV more than Brady. Brady could have way more endorsement deals than anybody if that is what he wanted. And the one TV ad I did see him in he wouldn't do the ad w/out his O-linemen. So IMO people need to chill on all the Brady hating.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-11-2007 10:08 AM

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Just like Matty said in another thread, it's all about the fact that basically he's NOT the Redskins and people get tired of seeing the same team every year.

If the Dolphins came back next year and won three Super Bowls, we'd all have the same hate for them as we do for the Pats.

12thMan 12-11-2007 10:08 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;391898]And as I said, if Brady was a Redskin, and he won 3 SB's for us, we'd all be on his jock.

What I find so funny is people that really know football, know that Brady is one of the hardest working guys on the pats. He's a true professional and studies his craft. You don't become as good as he is w/out putting in the time. Look how much better he is now then he was back in 01. It's like night and day. He can't help it the way he looks. Peyton Manning is the one who is on TV every 5 minutes, not Brady. I see Tomlinson and Bush on TV more than Brady. Brady could have way more endorsement deals than anybody if that is what he wanted. And the one TV ad I did see him in he wouldn't do the ad w/out his O-linemen. So IMO people need to chill on all the Brady hating.[/quote]

You nailed it, Skinsfan69. You never see his face splashed over everything like these other characters. He just puts in work and answers questions - that's it. And by all accounts, he has the respect of his teammates.

mheisig 12-11-2007 10:09 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;391803]Let me ask you this tough question. We all love Gibbs. But would you rather have a high character guy who isn't a good coach and has a losing record? Or would you rather have a guy who is terrible with the media, has a terrible personality, but wins?

I care about character. But some of the things Bill B. has been accused of is not a big deal to me.[/QUOTE]

That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

MTK 12-11-2007 10:14 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;391898]And as I said, if Brady was a Redskin, and he won 3 SB's for us, we'd all be on his jock.

What I find so funny is people that really know football, know that Brady is one of the hardest working guys on the pats. He's a true professional and studies his craft. You don't become as good as he is w/out putting in the time. Look how much better he is now then he was back in 01. It's like night and day. He can't help it the way he looks. Peyton Manning is the one who is on TV every 5 minutes, not Brady. I see Tomlinson and Bush on TV more than Brady. Brady could have way more endorsement deals than anybody if that is what he wanted. And the one TV ad I did see him in he wouldn't do the ad w/out his O-linemen. So IMO people need to chill on all the Brady hating.[/quote]

That's great but the reality is people will find something to hate on regardless. Nobody is immune to the hate... hell people hate on Favre and that blows my mind.

skinsfan69 12-11-2007 10:16 AM

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[quote=12thMan;391890]I just love this argument about how Brady is a douche. I've never seen him being disrespectuful, at least publicly, toward a teammate. LT, on the other, Mr. Class of the NFL, has had open spats with Philip Rivers more than once. When he does it, he's just fired up and being competitive. When Brady does it, he's a whiny bitch.[/quote]


When it comes down to it LT is a little baby who needs a milk bottle. If he's got a problem w/ Rivers then do it behind closed doors. He keeps showing him up on the sidelines. What a crybaby. Oh.. and he cried like a little bitch when the pats players were doing Merriman's little stupid dance after the playoff loss last year. He looked so stupid complaining about that crap. Merriman shouldn't do shit like that cause it always comes back to bite you in the ass. You don't see Vrabel or Seymour doing dances when they sack the QB.

Marty S. has got to be sitting back laughing his ass off right about now.

12thMan 12-11-2007 10:16 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;391902]That's great but the reality is people will find something to hate on regardless. Nobody is immune to the hate... hell people hate on Favre and that blows my mind.[/quote]

See, now I'm guilty of that - hating Favre that is. Just never been a Brette Favre fan. I do think he's as down to earth and genuine as they come though.

skinsfan69 12-11-2007 10:17 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;391902]That's great but the reality is people will find something to hate on regardless. Nobody is immune to the hate... hell people hate on Favre and that blows my mind.[/quote]

The Farve love affair is getting old. And it's the media that does it so I don't blame Farve.

12thMan 12-11-2007 10:18 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;391905]When it comes down to it LT is a little baby who needs a milk bottle. If he's got a problem w/ Rivers then do it behind closed doors. He keeps showing him up on the sidelines. What a crybaby. Oh.. and he cried like a little bitch when the pats players were doing Merriman's little stupid dance after the playoff loss last year. He looked so stupid complaining about that crap. Merriman shouldn't do shit like that cause it always comes back to bite you in the ass. You don't see Vrabel or Seymour doing dances when they sack the QB.

Marty S. has got to be sitting back laughing his ass off right about now.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, I love LT to death. But when you go to a presser and announce how much class you have, it makes me scratch my head.

Southpaw 12-11-2007 10:19 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;391884]I have NEVER seen Tom Brady yell at a WR. Not sure what you are talking about on that one.

And A. Smith ran his mouth first.[/quote]

I guess you haven't watched many Pats games before this season then. I haven't seen him do it as much this season, but a lot more people would call him out on it, considering he's got a stable full of great receivers. My main beef with Brady even before this season was that he admonished his receivers far too often.

And A. Smith ran his mouth to the media. I've never seen a flag thrown for talking smack on ESPN.

And where's the defense of Brady's constant bitching at the refs? That's just competitive fire I guess...

skinsfan69 12-11-2007 10:25 AM

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[quote=mheisig;391901]That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.[/quote]

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

12thMan 12-11-2007 10:27 AM

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You guys keep using the word "character" when comparing Gibbs to Belichick. I honestly believe people are using the words character and personality interchangably here.

Let's be fair, there probably aren't more than two or three head coaches in the entire NFL that have more character than Joe Gibbs, if such a thing is quantifyable?


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