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The choice could have been worse, we could have hired [B]Mouse Davis[/B] to operate the [B]run and shoot offense[/B]

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[QUOTE=redsk1;412889]I know JF and GW think alot of Zorn, but if it was one of them why wouldn't they be hired already.[/QUOTE]


I wonder if Danny has his wife call him "Jerry" when they are in the sack?

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[quote=skinsfan69;412866]Nope. Everything I've heard from JC's mouth is that he likes the offense and he liked working with Al S. and Bill L. And I would bet that when he comes on the radio again next week he isn't going to be happy running his 3rd different offense in 4 years. Sorry but that's not how you coach a young QB that you gave up 2 number 1 picks for.

When you change OC's that means some trickle down stuff is going to happen. What good is Collins w/out Al? So who is our back-up now that Al isn't going to be here? Collins showed that he can play at a high level in Al's offense so you now possibly weaken the back up QB spot.[/quote]

Ok, you don't build your team or staff around your backup QB. I think that position is somewhere towards the bottom of the priority list at the moment.

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Nothing against Zorn, but hiring an OC before a head coach shows just how clueless Vinny and Danny are about conducting a coaching search. Let's hypothetically assume that Snyder is putting all his eggs in the Fassel basket. What if Fassel has a sudden change of heart about coaching here? Where does that leave us? You ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS lock down the head coach FIRST, then let him assemble his staff. With the Zorn signing, we can stop speculating about McDaniel and Spagnuolo as candidates, because I can't imagine either interviewing for an owner who took the prerogative to assemble the coaching staff prior to their interview.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;412900]Ok, you don't build your team or staff around your backup QB. I think that position is somewhere towards the bottom of the priority list at the moment.[/quote]

All too true, but I wonder who will be the backup?

I am happy that Collins did what he did this season, and I hope him and Al find a comfy new home, but I am sure as hell glad we wont have a Todd Collins or Mark Brunell backing up our QB anymore.

Lets bring in Seneca Wallace!!!! Backup QB and WR all at once!!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;412866]Nope. Everything I've heard from JC's mouth is that he likes the offense and he liked working with Al S. and Bill L. And I would bet that when he comes on the radio again next week he isn't going to be happy running his 3rd different offense in 4 years. Sorry but that's not how you coach a young QB that you gave up 2 number 1 picks for.

When you change OC's that means some trickle down stuff is going to happen. What good is Collins w/out Al? So who is our back-up now that Al isn't going to be here? Collins showed that he can play at a high level in Al's offense so you now possibly weaken the back up QB spot.[/QUOTE]


In a public interview, would you really expect Campbell to say anything other than that? It would be unlike Jason to publically criticize his coach.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;412900]Ok, you don't build your team or staff around your backup QB. I think that position is somewhere towards the bottom of the priority list at the moment.[/quote]As Joe Gibbs said many times, the most important player on your team is the starting QB, and the second most important is his backup. Todd Collins proved that this year, as did Doug Williams 20 years ago.

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I really don't care about any of this. I liked Zorn back in the day when he was the Hawk's QB but I really don't know much about him as a coach like most other people here. As far as the way Snyder is handling this...it's his team, he can conduct business any way he chooses and I am free to support the team or not. I find it absurd to critique, complain or panic about his process. I'm of the "wait and see" camp. Fassel may be a good fit. I don't know. GW may be a good HC. I don't know. Neither does anyone else. Quit yer bitchin'.

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[QUOTE=dblanch66;412905]I really don't care about any of this. I liked Zorn back in the day when he was the Hawk's QB but I really don't know much about him as a coach like most other people here. As [B]far as the way Snyder is handling this...it's his team, he can conduct business any way he chooses and I am free to support the team or not. I find it absurd to critique, complain or panic about his process. [/B] I'm of the "wait and see" camp. Fassel may be a good fit. I don't know. GW may be a good HC. I don't know. Neither does anyone else. Quit yer bitchin'.[/QUOTE]

I know the whole "quit yer bitchin" mantra is in right now. I also think some people (i.e., the "I'm selling my Redskins gear" crowd) are getting overworked and looking silly. That said, the notion that I, as a devoted fan, cannot take issue with front office moves is equally silly (no offense dblanch). As the owner, Dan has the power to make front office moves, but as a fan, I have every right to disagree with front office moves in a reasonable and articulate fashion.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;412906]I know the whole "quit yer bitchin" mantra is in right now. I also think some people (i.e., the "I'm selling my Redskins gear" crowd) are getting overworked and looking silly. That said, the notion that I, as a devoted fan, cannot take issue with front office moves is equally silly (no offense dblanch). As the owner, Dan has the power to make front office moves, but as a fan, I have every right to disagree with front office moves in a reasonable and articulate fashion.[/QUOTE]

No question. Key words being reasonable and articulate.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;412904]As Joe Gibbs said many times, the most important player on your team is the starting QB, and the second most important is his backup. Todd Collins proved that this year, as did Doug Williams 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]


A little success sure goes a long ways dosen't it? If memory serves me correctly the first year Collins was here and we got to see him in pre-season, many here vowed to never want to see him under center again (including me) It's amazing how just a little bit of success can change the minds of so many people.

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[QUOTE=redwagonskins;412822]Anybody else think this is putting the cart before the horse? An OC before an HC? Maybe the decision has already been made.[/QUOTE]

Jerry did the very same thing in Dallas. Garrett was named OC before Wade was hired.

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Sounds like he's got a proven track record.

Who else had a proven track record that we hired? Oh that's right, Al Saunders.

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I gotta admit, at first I didn't think Zorn would leave Seattle. He's been there his nearly all of his professional career, both as a player and coach, and would probably be in line to take over as OC when Holmgren leaves. But in the ESPN presser today I read that two other assistants have already left Seattle since Holmgren said '08 will be his last year. And now Zorn? That's three in a week. Maybe a lot of the staff isn't confident in the direction Mora will go when he (supposedly) takes over? Interesting...

Regardless, if Al was gonna go, I'm happy with his replacement.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;412871]Sorry but the west coast offense is VERY COMPLICATED w/ a ton of verbage and it's more complicated than Al's offense. When I use to play football we ran something like the Coyell, Gibbs offense. It's tough for the Qb but it's very very easy for everyone else.[/QUOTE]But as a professional, Campbell doesn't have to try to balance his studying of the playbook and verbage with the workload of a student athlete. He has plenty of time over the next 8 months to learn all the verbage. It's a total non-issue.

Saunders could have been successful here given more time, but I don't hold any specific allegance to him, and I'm not all that disappointed to see him go. Zorn will reap the success that Saunders would have had. To me, that's not a big deal.