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smoot27 07-13-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;456480]Goodbye, credibility.

When you say Zorn likes Brennan better, exactly what are you basing that on??[/QUOTE]

Nothing. But again .....kinda funny why he drafted him when we got Collins and JC right?. I like JC how ever I don't want him to go and Jason Campbell has the tools but there something wrong here. I can't explain but i think something is gonna happen during next year that will be an huge change.

smoot27 07-13-2008 09:43 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;456478]Brannan (or Brennan) is 24 years younger than Campbell? Wow!

I really don't know what [SIZE="4"]Favre will teach Campbell[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Slants,Timing,rhythm in deep balls, reading defensives plays better, you know the usual. Hopefully he doesn't teach him to throw INT's but finishing the game......its something we all want !don't we.!

SmootSmack 07-13-2008 09:50 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=smoot27;456483]Slants,Timing,rhythm in deep balls, reading defensives plays better, you know the usual. Hopefully he doesn't teach him to throw INT's but finishing the game......its something we all want !don't we.![/QUOTE]

Silly me...I thought maybe Jim Zorn would teach him that

Schneed10 07-13-2008 09:57 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[quote=smoot27;456481]Nothing. [B]But again .....kinda funny why he drafted him when we got Collins and JC right[/B]?. I like JC how ever I don't want him to go and Jason Campbell has the tools but there something wrong here. I can't explain but i think something is gonna happen during next year that will be an huge change.[/quote]

Not really, we needed a #3 QB. You remember Mark Brunell? He's not with us anymore.

smoot27 07-13-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;456487][SIZE="4"]Silly me[/SIZE]...I thought maybe Jim Zorn would teach him that[/QUOTE]
Humph.

I believe in Zorn how ever, Zorn didn't make Matt Hasselback all by him self. Matty was behind Favre and what did Matty do after he started?.

Now you kinda see what i mean. I like Zorn and i know hes gonna be probably better than Gibbs but Zorn has to realize hes an new HC with an new OC. He needs all he can get to produce quickly and plus above all his playbook is similar to GB but GB has some passing plays we can use( if we brought Favre).

Also above all the one thing i think Favre can teach JC the most, (AND NO ARGUMENT HERE) is the play action fakes. Hes the best QB ive seen do the play action real well. JC could use that real well when you have speed on the field.

Schneed10 07-13-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[quote=smoot27;456483]Slants,Timing,rhythm in deep balls, reading defensives plays better, you know the usual. Hopefully he doesn't teach him to throw INT's but finishing the game......its something we all want !don't we.![/quote]

Ask Aaron Rodgers how much Favre taught him. Squat.

smoot27 07-13-2008 10:07 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;456489]Not really, we needed a #3 QB. You remember Mark Brunell? He's not with us anymore.[/QUOTE]

I remember Brunell clearly but i can explain the difference between Favre and Brunell.


Brunell was behind Favre in 1994( where Favre probably had his best year)

Brunell went to JAXS for 9-10 seasons and had good years

Brunell came i n 04-

Brunell before he came had that serious leg injury in JAX. When he came here he came to an team with an new scheme that took alot of time. Brunell didn't know all the calls and the offense didn't know as well. While Brunell came he needed to know the scheme perfectly .


-05 : Brunell back healthy and knew the scheme now came back with 23 TD's-10 INT's which could of been pro-bowl caliber with an 57 COM% rating.


- In comes Al

Brunell had to know the scheme again and Brunell IMO didn't lose us the games but the D it self never did good at all . So was it Brunells fault learning an new playbook again with some injures?.



-Brunell benched after Eagles game

Brunell played at his age and no harms here i don't blaim him for trying to know the 700 page book .











Now lets talk about Favre:

Favre comes in and become the greatest QB packs ever had.

9 pro-bowls 3-MVP - 1 SB ring( i think)

Till today last year Favre had the best COMP% season ever with 66.3 which is very high.

So again what can't Favre teach JC?.

SmootSmack 07-13-2008 10:08 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=smoot27;456490]Humph.

I believe in Zorn how ever, Zorn didn't make Matt Hasselback all by him self. Matty was behind Favre and what did Matty do after he started?.

Now you kinda see what i mean. I like Zorn and i know hes gonna be probably better than Gibbs but Zorn has to realize hes an new HC with an new OC. He needs all he can get to produce quickly and plus above all his playbook is similar to GB but GB has some passing plays we can use( if we brought Favre).

Also above all the one thing i think Favre can teach JC the most, (AND NO ARGUMENT HERE) is the play action fakes. Hes the best QB ive seen do the play action real well. JC could use that real well when you have speed on the field.[/QUOTE]

I just don't even know how to respond to this. Your posts are getting more and more convoluted.

smoot27 07-13-2008 10:09 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;456491]Ask Aaron Rodgers how much Favre taught him. Squat.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking that too. But if you saw the Cowboys/Packs game * not in rude voice* Rogers IMO shouldn't have looked that good at all. Rogers did every thing right and i always wonder ( how did he learn so quick) than bam.

There's no way he would of been that good in one NFL debut unless he saw an vet in action and that vet thought him things.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDNW_8nefQ]YouTube - Aaron Rodgers 2007 Highlights (On Fire!)[/url]

Now Farve did bad that game no doubt but than again Cowboys had an great pass rush D and the packs had only two WR's.

Schneed10 07-13-2008 10:12 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[quote=smoot27;456497]I was thinking that too. But if you saw the Cowboys/Packs game * not in rude voice* Rogers IMO shouldn't have looked that good at all. Rogers did every thing right and i always wonder ( how did he learn so quick) than bam.

[B] There's no way he would of been that good in one NFL debut unless he saw an vet in action and that vet thought him things.[/B]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDNW_8nefQ"]YouTube - Aaron Rodgers 2007 Highlights (On Fire!)[/URL]

Now Farve did bad that game no doubt but than again Cowboys had an great pass rush D and the packs had only two WR's.[/quote]

No, of course not. That's just not possible. It's not like he was a first round pick or anything!

:rolleyes:

smoot27 07-13-2008 10:12 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;456495]I just don't even know how to respond to this. Your posts are getting more and more convoluted.[/QUOTE]

Here's something simple. How you think Jason Campbell is going to play.

Schneed10 07-13-2008 10:14 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[quote=smoot27;456499]Here's something simple. How you think Jason Campbell is going to play.[/quote]

About as well as Brett Favre would in year 1 in the Zorn system. Without much discernible difference.

QB rating somewhere in the 70s.

smoot27 07-13-2008 10:14 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;456498]No, of course not. That's just not possible. It's not like he was a first round pick or anything!

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

But looked better than Jason Campbell didn't he.

SmootSmack 07-13-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[QUOTE=smoot27;456499]Here's something simple. How you think Jason Campbell is going to play.[/QUOTE]

Better than he would if he sat on the bench.

Schneed10 07-13-2008 10:17 PM

Re: Should the Redskins take a run at Favre?
 
[quote=smoot27;456501]But looked better than Jason Campbell didn't he.[/quote]

In one game lots of players can light it up because there's no film on him yet. In addition, the Pack had a much better surrounding cast, especially pass protection, than Campbell had last season (no Jansen or Randy Thomas). One impressive game from Rodgers doesn't prove that Favre's presence made an impact. Asserting so is asinine.


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