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SUNRA 03-02-2009 11:04 AM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
Philly has lost three DB's. Considine, Sheppard and Dawkins. Add L.J. Smith, Runyan and your'e looking at a team in serious trouble. I don't give a damn about the fans. The front office was applauded by the media as being so smart when it came to spending for it's FA. Hell, they didn't want to pay Westbrook.

Bubba305-ST21- 03-02-2009 11:12 AM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
no arguements now....we officially have the best safety in the division (dirty thirty)!!!!!

Bubba305-ST21- 03-02-2009 11:13 AM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;532628]no arguements now....we officially have the best safety in the division (dirty thirty)!!!!![/quote]

actually im not even sure there was ever an arguement/dispute

That Guy 03-02-2009 11:57 AM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=SUNRA;532625]Philly has lost three DB's. Considine, Sheppard and Dawkins. Add L.J. Smith, Runyan and your'e looking at a team in serious trouble. I don't give a damn about the fans. The front office was applauded by the media as being so smart when it came to spending for it's FA. Hell, they didn't want to pay Westbrook.[/quote]

but they'll have 42 draft picks next year. everyone of those guys is an extra 3rd-7th round comp pick.

not saying that's a good reason to be cheap, but it let's them stay cheap on draftees.

GMScud 03-02-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=SUNRA;532625]Philly has lost three DB's. Considine, Sheppard and Dawkins. Add L.J. Smith, Runyan and your'e looking at a team in serious trouble. I don't give a damn about the fans. The front office was applauded by the media as being so smart when it came to spending for it's FA. Hell, they didn't want to pay Westbrook.[/quote]

I gotta disagree. Considine is just not very good. Dawkins, while a great leader, has seen his coverage skills decline quite a bit, and Lito Sheppard has gone from pro-bowler to bench warmer pretty quickly. LJ Smith got outplayed by Brent Celek all year, and Runyan is old and just had microfracture surgery on his knee. Aside from Dawkins, I think they did a nice job trimming the fat here, plus they'll get compensatory picks, along with the multiple draft picks they got for Sheppard.

SmootSmack 03-02-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=GMScud;532670]I gotta disagree. Considine is just not very good. Dawkins, while a great leader, has seen his coverage skills decline quite a bit, and Lito Sheppard has gone from pro-bowler to bench warmer pretty quickly. LJ Smith got outplayed by Brent Celek all year, and Runyan is old and just had microfracture surgery on his knee. Aside from Dawkins, I think they did a nice job trimming the fat here, plus they'll get compensatory picks, along with the multiple draft picks they got for Sheppard.[/quote]

I'm kinda surprised the Eagles don't get more grief for their less than stellar success in the first two rounds of the draft over the past decade (those picks, if you ask anyone who assesses the job the Redskins do in the draft, are supposed to "no brainer"), Winston Justice, Jerome McDougle, Quentin Caver, Victor Abiamiri, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, Matt McCoy...

(congrats on Sebelius by the way)

GMScud 03-02-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=SmootSmack;532677]I'm kinda surprised the Eagles don't get more grief for their less than stellar success in the first two rounds of the draft over the past decade (those picks, if you ask anyone who assesses the job the Redskins do in the draft, are supposed to "no brainer"), Winston Justice, Jerome McDougle, Quentin Caver, Victor Abiamiri, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, Matt McCoy...

(congrats on Sebelius by the way)[/quote]

Eeesh. Those are some pretty bad 1st round picks. They've done well outside of the 1st round, but it's hard to argue that those names pretty much stink out loud.

(thanks for the congrats. she's a good lady).

CRedskinsRule 03-02-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
all this draft pick/no brainer/good- better FO talk has me wondering if there is a single reference that lists a team's year by year draft and the player's current status. I imagine there is, but hoping someone would have a link to it. if there was a similar one for FA, you could probably get an honest evaluation of FO's as opposed to gut reaction.

That Guy 03-02-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/history]NFL Draft History[/url]
[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/]NFL Draft History and AFL Drafts - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

CRedskinsRule 03-02-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
The 2nd link is great , thanks!

Giantone 03-02-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;532628]no arguements now....we officially have the best safety in the division (dirty thirty)!!!!![/quote]

LOL.................

GMScud 03-02-2009 04:58 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=Giantone;532785]LOL.................[/quote]

Let me guess, you think Kenny Phillips is better.

Bubba305-ST21- 03-02-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=GMScud;532866]Let me guess, you think Kenny Phillips is better.[/quote]

yeah good joke Giantone

GTripp0012 03-02-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=GMScud;532866]Let me guess, you think Kenny Phillips is better.[/quote]Maybe he's thinking that if you take all the mediocre Giant safeties (they have like 5) and combine their very best attributes, you get a better-tackling Laron Landry?

There is no Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson, or James Butler, there is just "Giants safety".

Bubba305-ST21- 03-02-2009 08:54 PM

Re: Dawkins Does Denver; Fickle Philly Fans Frustrated
 
[quote=GTripp0012;532932]Maybe he's thinking that if you take all the mediocre Giant safeties (they have like 5) and combine their very best attributes, you get a better-tackling Laron Landry?

There is no Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson, or James Butler, there is just "Giants safety".[/quote]

haha good thinking...bc that is the only way they can come close to LaRon


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