Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=GMScud;557308]I agree with pretty much everything you're saying here. All I was saying is that you can argue hypotheticals for pretty much any situation. I mean, you can easily argue the Jet's would have trumped our offer to Cleveland even if we had that 2nd rounder. With Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge, their QB situation is way worse than ours. Desperate in fact. Who's to say they wouldn't have shipped off the entire draft for Sanchez? They wanted him BAAAAD.

And IMO we'll look a lot more "lucky" for landing Rak if we make him an every down DE. If ain't broke don't fix it. The same reason Blache is planning on letting Big Al freelance at DT....[/quote]

Yeah there is still a chance the Jets would of outbid us. I think we would of been able to get Sanchez if we had the 2nd because Snyder would of offered probably another 2nd in 2010 to go with the 1st/2nd in 2009. With Cerrato saying they tried to move up it just makes me believe since we didnt want to give up a 1st in 2010 than if we had the 2nd this year we could of outbid them.

I agree 100% about Orakpo. I understand the teams thinking on why they think its best for the team. I dont understand though why they would risk the development of there 1st round draft pick playing him at OLB. Hes a pure DE and the quicker he gets playing there on all 3 downs the quicker he will develop. Kinda like Mario Williams.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=GMScud;557127]Well, it's official. Parcells bent us over.

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/13/jason-taylor-to-re-sign-with-fins/]ProFootballTalk.com - Jason Taylor To Re-Sign With Fins[/url][/quote]

You sure got that right.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=SC Skins Fan;557136]Well good thing the Dolphins will not also be getting any of the Skins 2010 draft picks for the guy. That would really be a punch to the gut ... oh, wait ...[/quote]

Yep. Good one.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=redsk1;557153]We got hosed on this one. Big time. Memo to VC: Please get all the details done on a trade BEFORE you make the trade! Don't change the rules mid way thru. You cost us a 2nd rounder.

JT was never going to do his offseason workouts in DC. You would think we knew this going in.[/quote]

A most valid point.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;557151]I'm sure we'll be talking about this in 2019...the move backfired on us, it sucks, you move on.

Hopefully we will have the same success with the return of Dockery that many are predicting the Dolphins will have with Taylor[/quote]


Yeah, but you don't just move on. First you consider your mistake so as to avoid replicating it, [I]then [/I]you move on. I have little faith that's what's going to happen.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Brian Orakpo;557242]Well one good thing came out of the trade. When we traded for Jason Taylor we lost 2nd (2009) and 6th round (2010) picks. The biggest reason we couldnt trade up and get Mark Sanchez was because the Redskins had no 2nd round pick. The Redskins not being able to move up and get Sanchez lucked out and were able to draft Brian Orakpo with the 13th overall pick.

We did lose the 2nd round pick but it comes down to one thing. Would you rather have Mark Sanchez or Brian Orakpo? Id rather have Orakpo hands down.

I actually think in a weird kinda way Parcells saved us.[/quote]


Well that's interesting. We still need a QB but it's still interesting. Brian O. is the real deal I think.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=GMScud;557302]Sure, it could be great because a positive result has a chance of falling in our lap, not because it was part of any sort of plan.

I'd love for us to look smart on purpose for a change.

(Please no one ring off a list of draft picks for me. I know. I'm talking about FA).[/quote]

So none of our FA's have been smart moves?

How about Fletcher for starters?

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Mattyk72;557323]So none of our FA's have been smart moves?

How about Fletcher for starters?[/quote]

Griffin, Springs, Washington, Sellers...

Not to mention smart moves we didn't make-Courtney Brown, Javon Walker, Bryant Johnson...

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Coff;557321]Yeah, but you don't just move on. First you consider your mistake so as to avoid replicating it, [I]then [/I]you move on. I have little faith that's what's going to happen.[/quote]

Well our first mistake was allowing Daniels and Buzbee to be out for the year on the first day of training camp with major injuries...but actually I was speaking more about we fans moving on.

As for the team, seriously what is there to consider here?

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;557324]Griffin, Springs, Washington, Sellers...

Not to mention smart moves we didn't make-Courtney Brown, Javon Walker, Bryant Johnson...[/quote]

There are definitely more positives than negatives when it comes to free agency, but the focus is always more intense on the negative moves.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Mattyk72;557326]There are definitely more positives than negatives when it comes to free agency, but the focus is always more intense on the negative moves.[/quote]

And it seems like when we make positive moves it's like we stumbled upon it or the move was so obvious anyone could have made it...but a move that backfires on us is never about bad luck, it's always poor management and planning.

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Sonny9TD;557322]Well that's interesting. [B]We still need a QB[/B] but it's still interesting. Brian O. is the real deal I think.[/quote]

You mean the Redskins? How?

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;557329]And it seems like when we make positive moves it's like we stumbled upon it or the move was so obvious anyone could have made it...but a move that backfires on us is never about bad luck, it's always poor management and planning.[/quote]

How many times have we heard the good moves written off as no-brainers?

:doh:

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

if Taylor had 10+ sacks last year, would any of you guys sing the praises of a job well done by Cerrato? i kind of doubt it. we needed a defensive end, and they brought in the best player available( at least in their eyes)

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 

[quote=Ruhskins;557332]You mean the Redskins? How?[/quote]

Don't bother, he's anti-JC all the way