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[quote=CultBrennan59;665039][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.[/quote]


[quote=Jake Plummer;665039]"Well, he was what only five-four? But he wants them to think he's five-six. Hey man, that's just like his mansion, he wants you to think it's bigger than it is."[/quote]

Lol, yeah. Who in their right mind would think of benching a turnover machine with a 66.8 QB Rating through 11 games with your team somehow still in the playoff hunt? Pretty thankful guy though, I mean his stats might have got him a hall of fame nomination in 1939 but in this era he was pretty much an overrated scrambling QB.

I also thought this comment was pretty funny:
[quote]Don't tease DBs with INT clauses in their contracts like this!
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Ironically Shanahan only had nice things to say about Plummer after he retired:
[quote]"Jake must be a pretty good handball player," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said. "He's a great athlete. He uses his left hand almost as well as his right hand, which probably helps him in handball."

Read more: [url=http://www.denverpost.com/ci_7220039#ixzz0g3fMUY3m]Plummer's handball odyssey - The Denver Post[/url][/quote]

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[quote=The Goat;665032]LOL no reply on the horizon...I'm DONE w/ that particular player.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't gone more in the direction of defense. I mean in all likelihood we have an offense oriented draft because of our desperate needs there and the fact we have an offense minded coach. But if Haslett really forces this change into a 3-4 you're facing pretty serious personnel changes required on defense as well, and FA would be the logical route since we're so limited on draft picks.

Looking at the DL it's very hard to see anyone but Albert having immediate success in a 3-4. Jarmon is actually talking about losing weight and transitioning to LB. Monty just hasn't shown anything to prove he can be a dominant NT, and like said elsewhere Albert could be sort of wasted at that position. Plus if Albert doesn't play RDE in the 3-4 who can you see on the roster playing that position? Who do you see at LDE? Daniels certainly has the strength/bulk but do you want to rely on an aging, injury prone player. Can Zoe hold LDE down in the 3-4?

[B]Honestly, going primarily to a 3-4 probably requires two new additions to the starting cast on the DL...either NT and an end or two new ends.[/B] That's why Dansby seems unlikely.[/quote]

I agree and that's why I mentioned Dwan Edwards and Justin Bannan as UFA possibilities. I think they are both good players but they are ends and I just can't envision AH accepting a move to NT. So, I think it's going to take a FA mistake by NE, PIT, or GB or a trade to land an established NT. My preference at NT would be for the Skins to find a way to draft Dan Williams (6-3, 330) out of UT. I think he's going to be a heckuva NT in the pros.

I don't see why you thnk signing two DL's would rule out Dansby. All it would take is more money.

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So much is going to depend on if we can pull off some trades

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[quote=skinzfan88;664955]Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..[/quote]
no big deal man, don't let anyone here discourage you from posting (unless you want to do a search of "redskins202" to see what to avoid haha)

welcome to the warpath!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665034]I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.[/quote]
well FA starts soon, way before they get to see the players actually run through plays..

I'd assume that haslett knows what he wants to do as far as the D goes and I suspect that it's heavily 3-4, the way he keeps talking about it.. then says "we'll.. I mean if we" in regards to it, having talks with players explaining that they'll enjoy it, etc

I assume that we'll bring in a pretty fair amount of FA prospects and just work on cutting them as need be it, but that'll be later on... as far as initial splash when it starts? who knows? I mean they're going through tape, and can figure on mechanics and certain plays how some of our guys will do at 3-4, etc but they haven't seen it much yet.. I'm assuming that they'll want to see some of our guys running drills on it first, but who knows

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665039][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/"]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.[/quote]
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/17/plummer-takes-a-few-jabs-at-shanahan/]Plummer takes a few jabs at Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

"Hey, you know what, if I saw the man I'd go shake his hand," Plummer said. "Geez, he gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner. . . . I have to live with myself, he's gotta live with himself down the road. So, you know, I don't have hard feelings and I don't hold grudges. He got his due there. I think it was a year past due, he should have been gone a year before, and I've already said all that stuff . . . . He'll find himself coaching somewhere again and, you know, cutting some other quarterback for another young kid."

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Not that I'm suggesting bringing Little here.

Leonard Little's long tenure with Rams could end

Posted by Mike Florio on February 20, 2010 3:43 PM ET
Defensive end Leonard Little has played in St. Louis since 1998; he's the last remaining member of the Super Bowl XXXIV-winning team.

In 13 days, however, Leonard officially will hit the open market, possibly ending his 12-year tenure with the team.

[B]Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett reportedly believes that Little could still generate double-digit sacks, so if he doesn't stay in St. Louis, Little might get a chance somewhere else.[/B]

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[quote=SmootSmack;665056]So much is going to depend on if we can pull off some trades[/quote]

Trades?! Trades?!? I don't like the sound of that. Well, before I jump to conclusions, what trades are you thinking about? Carlos Rogers or Jason Campbell for a 2nd rounder? Chris Horton for a 4th? Those are about the only ones I think I'd be ok with. Anything that involves us trading one of our draft picks for a veteran should be off the table.

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[quote=tryfuhl;665067][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/17/plummer-takes-a-few-jabs-at-shanahan/"]Plummer takes a few jabs at Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

"Hey, you know what, if I saw the man I'd go shake his hand," Plummer said. "Geez, he gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner. . . . I have to live with myself, he's gotta live with himself down the road. So, you know, I don't have hard feelings and I don't hold grudges. He got his due there. I think it was a year past due, he should have been gone a year before, and I've already said all that stuff . . . . [B]He'll find himself coaching somewhere again and, you know, cutting some other quarterback for another young kid."[/B] [/quote]

Nah... no hard feelings there at all.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;665092]Not that I'm suggesting bringing Little here.

Leonard Little's long tenure with Rams could end

Posted by Mike Florio on February 20, 2010 3:43 PM ET
Defensive end Leonard Little has played in St. Louis since 1998; he's the last remaining member of the Super Bowl XXXIV-winning team.

In 13 days, however, Leonard officially will hit the open market, possibly ending his 12-year tenure with the team.

[B]Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett reportedly believes that Little could still generate double-digit sacks, so if he doesn't stay in St. Louis, Little might get a chance somewhere else.[/B][/quote]

[url=http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/feb/17/rams-say-no-decision-has-been-made-marc-bulgers-st/]Rams say no decision has been made on Marc Bulger's status | St. Louis Globe-Democrat[/url]

[quote]The Redskins have denied they have an interest in Rams defensive end Leonard Little, who will become an unrestricted free agent March 5. Since Little is officially under contract until midnight March 4, any comments about a team’s interest could be considered tampering.


The Rams haven’t ruled out bringing Little back, and team officials will meet with Little’s agent next week in Indianapolis.
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I'm sure teams are going to cut good players with inflated contracts to take advantage of the uncapped year. Yeah they'll have to pay the contracts but teams like the Skins won't have to pay ARE (not saying he's good) 8 million for the next 5 years when the cap is put back into play.

We're going to be players as always.

Mawae was just cut. Yeah he's ancient (39) but he's still playing at a high level and he was the heart-beat of the line that paved the way for Chris "the Freak" Johnson to have the type of season he had.

I'd rather draft an OT at 4 (or trade back and re-stock picks and then draft an OT) and get an interior linemen like the G/C out of Florida Pouncier (i think that's his name) with our second pick and build our line that way than go with the old-timers and hopefully we do.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;665242]I'm sure teams are going to cut good players with inflated contracts to take advantage of the uncapped year. Yeah they'll have to pay the contracts but teams like the Skins won't have to pay ARE (not saying he's good) 8 million for the next 5 years when the cap is put back into play.

We're going to be players as always.

Mawae was just cut. Yeah he's ancient (39) but he's still playing at a high level and he was the heart-beat of the line that paved the way for Chris "the Freak" Johnson to have the type of season he had.

[B]I'd rather draft an OT at 4 (or trade back and re-stock picks and then draft an OT) and get an interior linemen like the G/C out of Florida Pouncier (i think that's his name) with our second pick and build our line that way than go with the old-timers and hopefully we do.[/B][/quote]

In principle I agree. But we have so much work to do on the OL that we may need to get a geriatric fill-in or two for a year or two. This mess of an OL will not get fixed over night.

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[quote=Lotus;665261]In principle I agree. But we have so much work to do on the OL that we may need to get a geriatric fill-in or two for a year or two. This mess of an OL will not get fixed over night.[/quote]

It won't be fixed overnight, but investing on a franchise left tackle is a helluva good way to start. I also hope that we have gotten better at scouting talent and/or get lucky to find the offensive lineman version of Chris Horton.

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i'd rather go with a geriatric Mawae than Ben Hamilton.

I know we're not going to fix everything this year but it'd be nice if we could pick up a couple building blocks with our first few picks to rebuild our line unless we get an insane value at NO.2. (I wouldn't mind if we picked Clausen or Bradford in the 2nd but I'd prefer to fill other slots.)

ON a side note, why are we so hard pressed to pick a QB this year? We have Campbell for at least one more year and we can draft a QB next year at a lesser contract (assuming they institute a rookie cap). Undergrads are flooding the draft this year so they can cash in before the cap.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;664655]Mea culpa! I did not mention Rex Gosssman.:spank:

I also did not mention Ryan Leaf - - who is an unrestricted free agent so long as he is not in jail on his pending charges. :pffff:

I also did not mention Jeff George - - who is an unrestricted free agent who can bring veteran presence and perspective to the team as a mentor for Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Todd Collins and whomever the Skins might draft in April 2010 at a QB. Those folks need to know the Jeff George philosophy:
[INDENT]Leadership is overrated. :Flush: [/INDENT][/quote]

Should have mentioned Grossman :)