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skinsfaninok 01-24-2012 11:13 AM

Finally get to have a day off to check out the coverage of the S B

Watch j fleming from OU, plays like a Carlos rogers type corner

skinsfaninok 01-24-2012 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;878293]Outside of Justin Blackmon, Kendall Wright, Mohamed Sanu, and Dwight Jones are all guys I'd love in the B&G.[/QUOTE]

How about RG3 AND THEN Wright in the 2nd

SkinzWin 01-24-2012 11:50 AM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;878387]He's been below a 60% completion percentage passer for most of his career. He threw 3 INTs against ECU in 2010, and they had the worst ranked defense in division I.



This throw seems like a "good decision" maker to you?[/quote]

1. How many quarterback haven't had a bad game with multiple INT's?

2. How in the HELL is Russell Wilson's fault that they have the worst ranked defense? He's a QUARTERBACK.

3. It is preposterous that you say he had a bad throw, or a 3 INT game, so he sucks. Ever quarterback makes mistakes. NC State sucks.

Did he suck at Wisconsin this year???? No.
Is Sam Bradford really good? Yes.
Did he suck this year because his team is garbage and he had zero weapons to help him out? Yes.

Your argument has no logic, it simply pulls out single negative aspects of his game. Every player has those. Even Brady, Brees, Manning and Rodgers. You failed to mention that in his rookie year with a 55% completion percentage he went 17-1 TD to INT ratio. I'd say that's okay. Over 3000 yards Sophomore through Senior season. Look at what he does when you put him on a good team. OVER 70% Completion percentage! That's Brees and Rodgers numbers right there.

SEASON----CMP---ATT---YDS---CMP%---TD---INT------RAT
2011--------225---309---3175---72.8-----33-----4------191.8
2010--------308---527---3563---58.4-----28-----14-----127.5
2009--------224---378---3027---59.3-----31-----11-----147.8
2008--------150---275---1955---54.5-----17-----1------133.9

Chico23231 01-24-2012 11:55 AM

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If anything, Wilson's ability to come in first year, didnt have to sit out and immediately elevate Wisconsin into the national computer championship discussion is an amazing task. Wilson played extremely well this year, after playing on average to bad NC state teams.

NC_Skins 01-24-2012 11:58 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;878402]1. How many quarterback haven't had a bad game with multiple INT's?[/quote]

Against the worst ranked defense? Not many.


[quote=SkinzWin;878402]2. How in the HELL is Russell Wilson's fault that they have the worst ranked defense? He's a QUARTERBACK.[/quote]

Reread what I said. I wasn't talking about NC State's defense. I said he threw 3 INTS against ECU, and they (ECU) had the worst ranking defense in the NCAA that year. Throwing 3 INTs against Va Tech might be one thing, throwing 3 INTs against ECU is another.



[quote=SkinzWin;878402]3. It is preposterous that you say he had a bad throw, or a 3 INT game, so he sucks. Ever quarterback makes mistakes. NC State sucks. [/quote]

I didn't say he sucks. I said I didn't see him producing at the next level. Of course every QB makes a mistake, but good ones don't throw 3 INTs against a really really bad defense.

skinsfaninok 01-24-2012 12:21 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
I like Wilson in the 3rd or 4th

SmootSmack 01-24-2012 12:28 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
Interesting note from someone there: "The South coaching staff is running a much tighter ship than the North. South roster looks much more serious about getting work done and playing football"

MTK 01-24-2012 12:33 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;878416]Interesting note from someone there: "The South coaching staff is running a much tighter ship than the North. South roster looks much more serious about getting work done and playing football"[/quote]

Interesting. Shouldn't come as too much of a surprise I guess. Skins staff >> Vikings staff. Shanny is always all business. I couldn't see him running a loose practice.

NC_Skins 01-24-2012 12:43 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Ten-Prospects-To-Watch-At-the-Senior-Bowl/40d51ba7-e564-479a-8c19-7623c323d57c]Ten Prospects To Watch At the Senior Bowl[/url]

skinsfan69 01-24-2012 12:45 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;878418]Interesting. Shouldn't come as too much of a surprise I guess. Skins staff >> Vikings staff. Shanny is always all business. I couldn't see him running a loose practice.[/quote]

That same Vikings staff outcoached the more "business" side of the Redskins coaches in the regular season. Frazier reminds me of Tony Dungy.

skinsfan69 01-24-2012 12:54 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;878387]He's been below a 60% completion percentage passer for most of his career. He threw 3 INTs against ECU in 2010, and they had the worst ranked defense in division I.

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This throw seems like a "good decision" maker to you?[/quote]

Wilson seemed to make big strides at Wisconsin. He has upside and that's what you have to look at. Not one game in 2010. He's not a 1st or 2nd rounder but if he's there 4th or 5th round then that's good value. He's only going to improve with more coaching.

SkinzWin 01-24-2012 01:31 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;878408]Against the worst ranked defense? Not many.




Reread what I said. I wasn't talking about NC State's defense. I said he threw 3 INTS against ECU, and they (ECU) had the worst ranking defense in the NCAA that year. Throwing 3 INTs against Va Tech might be one thing, throwing 3 INTs against ECU is another.





I didn't say he sucks. I said I didn't see him producing at the next level. Of course every QB makes a mistake, but good ones don't throw 3 INTs against a really really bad defense.[/quote]

Okay, I did misread that. But even still, ECU has VT's number and has beat them several times. Some teams/schemes just match up well even if they are not good. You can't tell me that because a team/player lost to a bad team that means that team/player is bad. Or that you shouldn't take a look at them in the draft because of one performance.

Drew Brees had 269 YDS, 1 TD, 2 INT in their loss to the ST. LOUIS RAMS!!!
Drew Brees had 383 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT in their loss to the Tampa Bay Bucs!!!
Does that mean Brees or the Saints are bad. No it doesn't.

My point is this. You can't take one bad game by one bad team as an indicator of a player's entire work. Any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday, Saturday, Friday, Monday (or during parts of the regular season, Thursday)

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-24-2012 01:35 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;878394]How about RG3 AND THEN Wright in the 2nd[/quote]

If Wright falls to the 2nd and you said yourself no way RGIII falls to 6th so how would we get him and still have our 2nd rounder?

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-24-2012 01:36 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;878393]Finally get to have a day off to check out the coverage of the S B

Watch j fleming from OU, plays like a Carlos rogers type corner[/quote]

So he puts himself in position but drops the int??

redskin29633 01-24-2012 01:47 PM

Re: The Official 2012 Senior Bowl Week Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;878061]Foles and Weeden. I'd dump Grossman and Beck as soon as I could or just not resign them and prepare for taking a QB in FA and drafting a QB. I'd pick up one more as a UDFA and have all 3 compete with Crompton. To be honest I'm not sure I even want Crompton.[/quote]

Good idea; I support your plan, but we have a contract with Beck for 2012 for $1.000,000. I say we dump him anyway and just take the hit, whatever that number turns out to be.


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