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Paintrain 04-10-2012 04:54 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=vallin21;907912]Here's what we have now
FS: M. Williams, C. Griffin, (Possibly T. Jackson)
SS: Meriweather, Doughty, Gomes

I'm hoping we still pursue T. Jackson despite signing Williams... Now let's assume we sign T. Jackson as well; do we still draft a FS? (I say No)[/quote]

There must be a lot of faith in the coaching ability of Raheem Morris. If he can craft good production in 2012 out of this crew he could be in line for a DC position somewhere.

If a good player is available at S in the 3rd round and he's the BPA they will make a move via the draft for him as well.

The good thing is none of them are big dollars or long term so we can address these positions in 2013 in free agency and/or the draft.

The Goat 04-10-2012 04:58 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;907960]Well our other options would have been Landry with a big health question mark and an aging Atogwe.[/quote]

I know it. What I said wasn't meant to criticize our moves at safety this off-season, but generally this FO hasn't done a good job of developing/acquiring talent in our secondary.

The Goat 04-10-2012 05:00 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=Paintrain;907961]There must be a lot of faith in the coaching ability of Raheem Morris. If he can craft good production in 2012 out of this crew he could be in line for a DC position somewhere.

If a good player is available at S in the 3rd round and he's the BPA they will make a move via the draft for him as well.

The good thing is none of them are big dollars or long term so we can address these positions in 2013 in free agency and/or the draft.[/quote]

All good points. Should our 3rd rounder be BPA at safety/OL or just BPA period?

SmootSmack 04-10-2012 05:02 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=The Goat;907963]I know it. What I said wasn't meant to criticize our moves at safety this off-season, but generally this FO hasn't done a good job of developing/acquiring talent in our secondary.[/quote]

Thought Wilson was fine
Wouldn't totally surprise me if Atogwe even came back down the road this off-season
Too early to pass judgement on Gomes and Thompson

Am I missing people?

Paintrain 04-10-2012 05:08 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=The Goat;907964]All good points. Should our 3rd rounder be BPA at safety/OL or just BPA period?[/quote]

3rd rounder should be BPA pretty much regardless. QB, OLB, DL, TE are about the only position groups that should be exempt from BPA in the 3rd.

vallin21 04-10-2012 05:14 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=Paintrain;907961]There must be a lot of faith in the coaching ability of Raheem Morris. If he can craft good production in 2012 out of this crew he could be in line for a DC position somewhere.

If a good player is available at S in the 3rd round and he's the BPA they will make a move via the draft for him as well.

[B]The good thing is none of them are big dollars or long term so we can address these positions in 2013 in free agency and/or the draft.[/B][/quote]

That's my thought... In terms of the draft, IF we sign T. Jackson, we should cross FS off the list least for 2012 of draft needs.

The Goat 04-10-2012 05:17 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;907967]Thought Wilson was fine
Wouldn't totally surprise me if Atogwe even came back down the road this off-season
Too early to pass judgement on Gomes and Thompson

Am I missing people?[/quote]

Does Morris have some connection with Atogwe? If not I doubt we see him again.

Who's Gomes and Thompson ;) I keed I keed, but seriously our safety situation, due in part to lousy circumstances, is ugly.

Mechanix544 04-10-2012 05:39 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=Paintrain;907970]3rd rounder should be BPA pretty much regardless. QB, OLB, DL, TE are about the only position groups that should be exempt from BPA in the 3rd.[/quote]

What about RB? Burn our 3rd rounder on another RB? What about WR? Burn it on another wideout?

Two places this pick can go. Highest rated T, or highest rated S.
Period.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-10-2012 05:44 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
Why are we so certain Meriweather won't play FS?

whistler 04-10-2012 05:45 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
As long as Lorenzo Alexander is still on the team I think that the skins believe that ILB will be ok with a mid round draftee and Riley and possibly a couple of free agents (college).

VTSkins1961 04-10-2012 05:53 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
I also hope we sign him. Jackson is a ballhawk and young......


[quote=imaskin4life;907879]It's good to see that they did not release him due to an actual failure in physical or drug test. I hope we sign Jackson. His past problems don't concern me that much -- we just factor all of that in when working out an agreement. If he had to choose between weed or cash I bet he would choose the cash but if not, we protect ourselves just in case.[/quote]

Paintrain 04-10-2012 07:48 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=Mechanix544;907980]What about RB? Burn our 3rd rounder on another RB? What about WR? Burn it on another wideout?

Two places this pick can go. Highest rated T, or highest rated S.
Period.[/quote]

If a 2nd round value RB or WR is there at our 3rd round at our third round pick, absolutely.

Our RB rotation is ok, borderline decent but Hightower has been a change of pace back his whole career.. Shanny has called Helu and Royster change of pace backs as well. None of them has the look of a feature back. Helu has tantalizing skills, but I question his vision. I think he misses too many holes to be a feature guy. If there is a guy who we think can be THE guy (Doug Martin, Lamar Miller) of course pick him.

Same with our WR rotation. I'm of the belief that our WR group in 2013 will only have Hankerson and Paul (maybe Robinson if he shows something in camp) from the 2011 group so there's at least one more player that needs to be brought in. If a Brian Quick, Rueben Randle, Mohamad Sanu is sitting there, run-don't walk-that pick to the podium.

I agree that tackle and safety are greater needs but I'm not a subscriber to drafting for need in the 3rd round. If the #7 tackle or #5 safety is on the board but the #2 RB or #4 WR is there, you take the best player available that's not redundant at a position of depth.

whistler 04-10-2012 09:03 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
[quote=The Goat;907964]All good points. Should our 3rd rounder be BPA at safety/OL or just BPA period?[/quote]

It should be an ILB. The skins have acquired about 4 FA dbs in the last month, and the OL is ok (not great, but ok).

That Guy 04-10-2012 10:37 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
well, i don't think anything in FA would stop us from drafting DBs. we've got old injured suspended players, so... yeah.

Ruhskins 04-11-2012 04:06 PM

Re: 2012 Redskins Free Agency (and Trades) Tracker (Chapter III)
 
Looking forward to having Jenkins back. I didn't know he was 325, at that size he might be pushing Cofield for the NT job.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/jarvis-jenkins-cleared-to-play-football/2012/04/11/gIQAEklvAT_blog.html]Jarvis Jenkins cleared to play football - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]


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