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Meks 05-14-2013 10:31 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1008874]Tomlin had the benefit of taking over an established team with a strong front office vs. the train wreck Shanahan took over.[/quote]

took the words right outta my .... typing hands..

mlmpetert 05-14-2013 11:28 AM

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My list:

1. Bill Belichick

2. Mike McCarthy

3. Sean Payton

4. John Fox

5. Mike Smith


Im surprised so many people have Tom Coughlin high in their list. I think hes good and all but i don't know about being a consensus top 5.

I also don't know about Jim Harbaugh being a top 5 right now. I like him a lot and would want him as my coach, but his most recent stint in the NFL is only 2 years young. Hes also in the NFC West. He'd be in my next great coaches section, speaking of:

Jim Harbaugh
Greg Shiano
Pete Carroll

MTK 05-14-2013 11:36 AM

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[quote=mlmpetert;1009051]My list:

1. Bill Belichick

2. Mike McCarthy

3. Sean Payton

4. John Fox

5. Mike Smith


[B]Im surprised so many people have Tom Coughlin high in their list. I think hes good and all but i don't know about being a consensus top 5.[/B]

I also don't know about Jim Harbaugh being a top 5 right now. I like him a lot and would want him as my coach, but his most recent stint in the NFL is only 2 years young. Hes also in the NFC West. He'd be in my next great coaches section, speaking of:

Jim Harbaugh
Greg Shiano
Pete Carroll[/quote]

2 recent SB wins, both over the all mighty Belichick seals it for me.

SmootSmack 05-14-2013 12:16 PM

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In my opinion, Coughlin is one of the most underrated HC's in NFL history. Cares about his staff, beyond the players. They'll run through walls for him. Deftly handles the NY media. And let's not overlook what he accomplished with the expansion Jags as well.

MTK 05-14-2013 12:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1009061]In my opinion, Coughlin is one of the most underrated HC's in NFL history. Cares about his staff, beyond the players. They'll run through walls for him. Deftly handles the NY media. And let's not overlook what he accomplished with the expansion Jags as well.[/quote]

Definitely agree. At this point his resume speaks for itself.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CougTo0.htm]Tom Coughlin Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

Games over .500: 30
Super Bowl Wins: 2
Overall Championships: 2
Conference Championships: 2
Division Championships: 7

FRPLG 05-14-2013 12:48 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1009061]In my opinion, Coughlin is one of the most underrated HC's in NFL history. Cares about his staff, beyond the players. They'll run through walls for him. Deftly handles the NY media. And let's not overlook what he accomplished with the expansion Jags as well.[/quote]

Have to agree...as much as it pains me. He was on the verge of crapping out there and some how figured out how to adjust his approach to make it work. Remember before the first SB he had one foot out the door and all the players pushing him.

mlmpetert 05-14-2013 01:10 PM

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OKay I was reading the question wrong. I was reading it as "who are the current top coaches in the NFL". While I think Coughlin is a good one, I think his abilities are waning and that, more importantly, there are coaches currently better then him.

Ill add Coughlin to my list of top NFL coaches that are still coaching. With that logic Ill also add Shanahan and drop Mike Smith and John Fox.

irish 05-14-2013 01:41 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1009061]In my opinion, Coughlin is one of the most underrated HC's in NFL history. Cares about his staff, beyond the players. They'll run through walls for him. Deftly handles the NY media. And let's not overlook what he accomplished with the expansion Jags as well.[/quote]

Definitely agree. Coughlin is the Rodney Dangerfield of head coaches.

irish 05-14-2013 01:44 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;1009073]OKay I was reading the question wrong. I was reading it as "who are the current top coaches in the NFL". While I think Coughlin is a good one, I think his abilities are waning and that, more importantly, there are coaches currently better then him.

Ill add Coughlin to my list of top NFL coaches that are still coaching. With that logic Ill also add Shanahan and drop Mike Smith and John Fox.[/quote]

It seems to me that if you think Coughlin's abilities are waning then you have to think that Belichick's are too.

MTK 05-14-2013 01:55 PM

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Coughlin just won a SB in 2011 and his abilities are waning?

mlmpetert 05-14-2013 02:26 PM

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He's never really had a powerhouse team during his tenure in NY. He averages 9 regular season wins a year, had 12 wins once, and has been to the playoffs once in the last 4 years. Whats weird is his football teams in NY have been consistently very average during the regular season and extremely streaky during the post season; he has never won a playoff game in NY without also winning the Super Bowl.

I think Coughlin winning the Super Bowl in 2011 was more of a "any given Sunday" type thing.

FRPLG 05-14-2013 02:30 PM

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I guess you CAN argue with success then. Sheesh

MTK 05-14-2013 03:09 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;1009082]I guess you CAN argue with success then. Sheesh[/quote]

lol

I can only imagine if Shanahan had won 2 SB's in recent years here. People would be crowning him the greatest of all time.

But with Coughlin it's like eh, who cares.

What's that, Harbaugh wins a SB? Eh, what does he even do?

skinsfan69 05-14-2013 05:14 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1008804]Doesn't Roman call the plays in San Fran?[/quote]

Not sure who calls the plays there. But that offense is designed exactly like Stanford's. Now they put it the read option w/ Kap. But he has to get credit for turning around Alex Smith. No one could get the guy to play, he looked mentally shot. Harbaugh comes in there and just works majic w/ the kid. Simply a great coaching job.

skinsfan69 05-14-2013 05:17 PM

Re: Best Head Coaches Currently In The NFL
 
[quote=mlmpetert;1009051]My list:

1. Bill Belichick

2. Mike McCarthy

3. Sean Payton

4. John Fox

5. Mike Smith


[B]Im surprised so many people have Tom Coughlin high in their list. I think hes good and all but i don't know about being a consensus top 5.[/B]

I also don't know about Jim Harbaugh being a top 5 right now. I like him a lot and would want him as my coach, but his most recent stint in the NFL is only 2 years young. Hes also in the NFC West. He'd be in my next great coaches section, speaking of:

Jim Harbaugh
Greg Shiano
Pete Carroll[/quote]

I would completly disagree there. Gotta give the guy credit. To me he's simply a great head coach.


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