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FrenchSkin 12-16-2016 10:20 AM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1158973]Last offseason the Giants did exactly what you said. They spent big in FA and they got a dominant DT and an elite Edge Rusher. We criticized them a lot here for spending so much on those positions but they had the last laugh because their defense is much better.[/quote]

Giants' D went from dead last in yards/game last to being a really solid defense (14th in yards/game), their performance against the cowboys was really impressive! Great defensive game. So yeah I guess that's well spent money.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-16-2016 10:31 AM

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I guess it had to work out sometime, why not in our division right? :P

Us, Eagles, etc. etc.

We should have tons of cap space to be able get a couple of blue chippers next year without getting into cap hell.

Chico23231 12-16-2016 10:32 AM

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[quote=SirLK26;1158953]Good post, imo we need a big dominant NT, at least one new safety, and maybe another corner if Breelands not the guy. Some of our young guys will be better next year, Cravens, Fuller, Smith, Ioannidis, could all turn into nice pieces. And if Galette returns we have an athletic pass rusher to rotate in instead of the plodders we have now. We could actually be solid on defense next year

Edit: Oh and of course a new D coordinator is a must[/quote]

yup...I wouldn't stop at 1 D-Lineman. We need 2 and to resign Swaggy Baker. I would spend money on a NT/DT and draft a DE.

Id watch the situation in Cincy...If Marvin Lewis is finally fired, then Paul Guenther will be coming to DC. Him and Gruden are close friends and Barry hasn't done enough to retain his job. Guenther will change the defense to a 4-3, no question.

SFREDSKIN 12-16-2016 10:41 AM

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Coaches are high on Lanier's potential and also like Iaonnidis, this is their first year, I expect both to be on the team next year. Jenkins and Hood are ready for the retirement home. Draft 2 DL or sign one on FA in addition to Baker and we'll be fine. S and a stud ILB in addition to DL will solve our problems.

MTK 12-16-2016 11:11 AM

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I like Hood as a backup.

punch it in 12-16-2016 12:27 PM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1158977]Coaches are high on Lanier's potential and also like Iaonnidis, this is their first year, I expect both to be on the team next year. Jenkins and Hood are ready for the retirement home. Draft 2 DL or sign one on FA in addition to Baker and we'll be fine. S and a stud ILB in addition to DL will solve our problems.[/QUOTE]



I hated the Iaonnidis pick. We need speed. I guess he could potentially help plug the run.

KI Skins Fan 12-16-2016 01:04 PM

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[quote=MTK;1158978]I like Hood as a backup.[/quote]

Me too.

punch it in 12-16-2016 01:05 PM

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1158984]Me too.[/QUOTE]



Me three. He has been a small flicker of a bright spot up the middle.

KI Skins Fan 12-16-2016 01:10 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1158983]I hated the Iaonnidis pick. We need speed. I guess he could potentially help plug the run.[/quote]

Matt's formula for success: Eat like a pig, work out like a maniac, get up to 330-340 pounds, and dominate the LOS as a NT.

Chico23231 12-16-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
ZiggY Hood at best is a back up, He is not disrupting enough up front.

skinsfan69 12-16-2016 02:44 PM

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So it looks like Spaight is going to get his first start.

Schneed10 12-16-2016 04:15 PM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1158974]Giants' D went from dead last in yards/game last to being a really solid defense (14th in yards/game), their performance against the cowboys was really impressive! Great defensive game. So yeah I guess that's well spent money.[/quote]

The question is will it be well-spent money a couple of years from now? The cap ramifications this year are not nearly what they are three years from now.

But at the same time they're not mortgaged to the hilt. They just need Vernon and Jenkins to continue this play, or else.

We were appropriately aggressive in going for Norman. I hope we find another like that this coming offseason. Bennie Logan would be worth a good offer.

skinsfan69 12-16-2016 05:12 PM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1158973]Last offseason the Giants did exactly what you said. They spent big in FA and they got a dominant DT and an elite Edge Rusher. We criticized them a lot here for spending so much on those positions but they had the last laugh because their defense is much better.[/quote]

I would hardly call Vernon an elite pass rusher. Nice player, not on Miller's level. Giants totally overpaid for him, as we did for Norman. That's free agency.

The Giants defense had nowhere to go but up. Yeah they're better, but I don't see them having a great defense or anything.

Bangee7 12-16-2016 07:30 PM

Re: Skins vs Carolina Pre Game
 
[quote=mredskins;1158964]Getting off the field on 3rd down. End of story. Games are decided on 3rd down.

Only Cleveland is worst then us.

[url]https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-third-down-conversion-pct[/url][/quote]

And while we're at it, let's cut down on letting the other team score!

The discussion is [B]what does it take to make that happen[/B]?

What has to happen to get off the field on 3rd down? Just get a new Def Coord & we get massively better?

Our secondary (even with Josh Norman) seems to have regressed. Our safeties suck (again), Breeland & Dunbar regressed and Fuller doesn't seem like he's improving. Is Perry Fewell doing his job well enough?

I put some blame on McL for not addressing the d-line more strongly. Going in with basically career backups as starters (Goldson, Hood, RJF) is hardly a formula for success in the NFL.

I just think our def problems need more talent before we can judge Barry fairly. But, hey, if he's the one telling McL that he could make those pieces work, then I would agree that he should go.

I'm not close enough to know if that's the case though.

-Hail.

ethat001 12-16-2016 09:21 PM

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[quote]No team in the NFL is worse on third down than the Redskins, who are allowing conversions 48 percent of the time. They're on pace to have the second-worst third-down defense in the past 15 seasons [B][U]behind only the 2011 San Diego Chargers[/U][/B].

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-nfl-worst-3rd-down-defense-obstacle-playoffs-212739259--nfl.html]Redskins' NFL-worst 3rd-down defense is obstacle to playoffs[/url]
[/quote]

So the worst team in past 15 seasons on third downs? 2011 San Diego Chargers, when Barry was the LB coach. Joe Barry's teams in the past 10 years have some of the WORST third down defenses in history -- and although he didn't always make the D calls, you've got to believe he clearly wasn't the solution. He's used to mediocrity and his experience and everything he's learned in the NFL has been about BAD DEFENSE. Not sure why his career makes us trust him.

Detroit - 2007 - 45% (30th in league)
Tampa Bay - 2009 - 40% (23rd in league)
San Diego - 2011 - 49% (32nd in league)
San Diego - 2012 - 42% (29th in league)
San Diego - 2013 - 40% (21st in league)
San Diego - 2014 - 43% (25th in league)


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