Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1167854]Realistically, how much cap space would signing Kirk long term and converting the base salary to bonus free up this year to sign more defensive talent?

Anybody have an educated guess?[/quote]


ask Bruce Allen

a more likely way to create cap space is cutting a few vets.... it could add $10+ million more money

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

Yeah anywhere from 5-12M depending how you structure it.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

$14M in space remaining currently

Kirk took $23.9
Vernon Davis $3.3
DJ Swearinger $3.3
Terrelle Pryor $6.0
Stacy McGee $3.2
Terrell McClain $3.7
Chris Thompson $2.7
Will Compton $1.8
Ty Nsekhe $0.7
Vinston Painter $0.6
Nick Sundberg $1.0

And a whole bunch of guys bumped out of the top 51.

My guess is they'll now hunt for bargains, maybe pay one more starting defensive lineman like Logan or Hankins. After that, plenty more signings, but they will be low salary and thus no significant cap impact once you net out the displaced player from the top 51.

I think they'll enter the season with about $8M in cap space in an attempt to carry some over into 2018 to allow for the possibility of tagging Cousins again at $34M.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=Schneed10;1167894]$14M in space remaining currently

Kirk took $23.9
Vernon Davis $3.3
DJ Swearinger $3.3
Terrelle Pryor $6.0
Stacy McGee $3.2
Terrell McClain $3.7
Chris Thompson $2.7
Will Compton $1.8
Ty Nsekhe $0.7
Vinston Painter $0.6
Nick Sundberg $1.0

And a whole bunch of guys bumped out of the top 51.

My guess is they'll now hunt for bargains, maybe pay one more starting defensive lineman like Logan or Hankins. After that, plenty more signings, but they will be low salary and thus no significant cap impact once you net out the displaced player from the top 51.

I think they'll enter the season with about $8M in cap space in an attempt to carry some over into 2018 to allow for the possibility of tagging Cousins again at $34M.[/quote]

They can still cut Hall, Lauvao.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=Schneed10;1167894]$14M in space remaining currently

Kirk took $23.9
Vernon Davis $3.3
DJ Swearinger $3.3
Terrelle Pryor $6.0
Stacy McGee $3.2
Terrell McClain $3.7
Chris Thompson $2.7
Will Compton $1.8
Ty Nsekhe $0.7
Vinston Painter $0.6
Nick Sundberg $1.0

And a whole bunch of guys bumped out of the top 51.

My guess is they'll now hunt for bargains, maybe pay one more starting defensive lineman like Logan or Hankins. After that, plenty more signings, but they will be low salary and thus no significant cap impact once you net out the displaced player from the top 51.

I think they'll enter the season with about $8M in cap space in an attempt to carry some over into 2018 to allow for the possibility of tagging Cousins again at $34M.[/quote]

Makes sense to me. I think one quality DT signing, like Logan or Hankins, is a must. We can get one or two good DE prospects via the draft.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1167896]They can still cut Hall, Lauvao.[/quote]

Indeed. Will they?

Under Cerrato they used to free themselves of contracts like those all the time. Under Bruce it hasn't been that way as much.

I feel like they should divorce from both, but Jay has always liked Hall as a leader. I feel like they would have done it by now if they were going to.

I feel like they'll bring them to camp and let them compete, and if they can't hack it they'll move on then.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=Schneed10;1167894]$14M in space remaining currently

Kirk took $23.9
Vernon Davis $3.3
DJ Swearinger $3.3
Terrelle Pryor $6.0
Stacy McGee $3.2
Terrell McClain $3.7
Chris Thompson $2.7
Will Compton $1.8
Ty Nsekhe $0.7
Vinston Painter $0.6
Nick Sundberg $1.0

And a whole bunch of guys bumped out of the top 51.

My guess is they'll now hunt for bargains, maybe pay one more starting defensive lineman like Logan or Hankins. After that, plenty more signings, but they will be low salary and thus no significant cap impact once you net out the displaced player from the top 51.

I think they'll enter the season with about $8M in cap space in an attempt to carry some over into 2018 to allow for the possibility of tagging Cousins again at $34M.[/quote]

So are the 'skins back up to around $18M now since they cut RJF?

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[quote=metalskins;1168233]So are the 'skins back up to around $18M now since they cut RJF?[/quote]

I doubt it, Hood is getting something. And RJF was a $3 million dollar savings....$1 million of dead cap space

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[quote=metalskins;1168233]So are the 'skins back up to around $18M now since they cut RJF?[/quote]

Cutting RJF took them up to $16.7M (net of a player added back to the top 51).

Then they signed Ziggy Hood. Cap hit unknown at this time.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1168284]Cutting RJF took them up to $16.7M (net of a player added back to the top 51).

Then they signed Ziggy Hood. Cap hit unknown at this time.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing with 10 picks the Redskins' effective rookies cap hit will be between 3 and 6 M.

So we should have at least 10M left.
If you're right about them wanting to carry 8M for next year's potential Kirk's tag, (that's if they don't sign him long term), that's still enough for one more quality signing!


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Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

Do the numbers being discussed include this deduction?

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-available-salary-cap-shrinks-2011-bill-comes-due?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo]Redskins' available salary cap shrinks as a 2011 bill comes due | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=Schneed10;1168284]Cutting RJF took them up to $16.7M (net of a player added back to the top 51).

Then they signed Ziggy Hood. Cap hit unknown at this time.[/quote]

There are still players who could be cut to create more cap space.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1168918]Do the numbers being discussed include this deduction?

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-available-salary-cap-shrinks-2011-bill-comes-due?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&yptr=yahoo]Redskins' available salary cap shrinks as a 2011 bill comes due | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

No it doesn't. Gotta subtract $4.5M in space for this.

Re: 2017 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 

After the penalty, they're currently at $11.35M in space. It's still not totally clear what Zach Brown's cap hit will be. Only thing I've seen so far is that the deal is worth "up to" $4.65M. That means it's got some incentives built in, some of which may not hit the cap at this time.

Let's figure he counts the full $4.65M until we hear otherwise. That means we've got $6.7M left. And as noted quite redundantly by several folks, they could still clear more space by dealing with Hall, Lauvao, and others.

Rookies figure to require about $3.0M in space.

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Cap space is getting a little tight but we can clear more space by cutting Hall, Lauvao, and others.