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No-one has any room to say anything negative about Brunell this game. He played with poise, he managed the game, spread the ball, and made plays when we needed them. We rolled down the field on the first drive, and almost capped it (but elected not to give sellers the ball, still don't know why) off.

The defense showed flashes of what they need to become. It's time for this team to get hungry, have a tough week of practice, and come out with another W in philli.

I'm not excited just yet, but shit... if the ball wants to take a redskins bounce, might as well make the best of it.

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I'll be officially in preseason excited mode if we beat the Eagles this weekend.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;240265]I'll be officially in preseason excited mode if we beat the Eagles this weekend.[/QUOTE]

If we win this Sunday, we're back in the playoff hunt as the NFC is officially pathetic once again.[B] I believe we're only one game out of the last wildcard spot.[/B]

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Wow. The NFC DOES suck. At least we can thank the Lions for beating ATL. Gmanc and I have been talking about this, but if we can pick up this win in Philly, TB hasn't been playing for shit and then we come back home for the most important game of the season against Carolina.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;240146]Here's where I can acknowledge I'm biased: I thought the throw to Cooley for the TD was a heart-stopper. It should have been deeper to make it impossible for the ball to be picked.[/QUOTE]

I agree, MB was barely able to get that ball to CC. MB played his usual sub-par game.

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[quote=Mattyk72;240147]Why minus the throw to Cooley? Did that not count or something? How about adding the potential yardage he lost when Cooley dropped that ball?

I don't understand why people always want to subtract plays out, I read an article this morning about how Portis ran 22 times for 46 yards (minus the 38 yard TD run). Why is it ok to analyze a performance by subtracting out big plays?? Why do they count any less?

Rant over.[/quote]

I understand and respect your point. But the bottom line is we are playing with a below average NFL QB. He is the worst QB in the division and is not a Super Bowl QB. That is the goal when you bring in a zillion free gaents every year. When you have a young talent like Campbell who has better physical skills then people are going to bitch an moan until he gets his chance.

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[quote=irish;240315]I agree, MB was barely able to get that ball to CC. MB played his usual sub-par game.[/quote]

OK, you're going to have to stand in the 'Mr. Negative' corner with me and Schneed.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;240346]I understand and respect your point. But the bottom line is we are playing with a below average NFL QB. He is the worst QB in the division and is not a Super Bowl QB. That is the goal when you bring in a zillion free gaents every year. When you have a young talent like Campbell who has better physical skills then people are going to bitch an moan until he gets his chance.[/QUOTE]

all true.

i'm one of the most vocal Brunell critics here, but it was good to see at least his mind was in the right place this game (downfield) even if every other part of his 70yr old body wasn't.

while Jason Campbell's physical abilities are in another realm compared to Brunell's (the medieval realm), the very sad, very scary fact revealed earlier this week that Jason hasn't practiced much with the first team now has me question whether he should be in there NOW.

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At 2-5 I think Gibbs should have started Campbell.

At some point we have to look to the future, sooner rather than later.

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hey you guys added GOOD after i voted (and suggested it). sneaky bastards. how do i change my vote from Great to Good?

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Sorry, you can only change it to 'Sub-Par'.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;240354]At 2-5 I think Gibbs should have started Campbell.

At some point we have to look to the future, sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE]

i think Gibbs should have started Campbell in the PREseason and given him all the first team snaps then, and now in the regular season. alas, neither happened and here we are.

not sure if it will make you feel better, but we're really only one game away from Campbell starting. the season will be pretty much over then though.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;240270]Wow. The NFC DOES suck. At least we can thank the Lions for beating ATL. Gmanc and I have been talking about this, but if we can pick up this win in Philly, TB hasn't been playing for shit and then we come back home for the most important game of the season against Carolina.[/QUOTE]

One game at a time. One game at a time

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;240358]Sorry, you can only change it to 'Sub-Par'.[/QUOTE]

the difference between Good and Sub-Par would have been an INT.

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I think the Brunell bashing makes the bashes look stupid and biased. This is a football team and it takes a TEAM to win and a TEAM to lose. You all need to get the f over it and accept that Brunell is OUR QB, like it or not, and SHUT UP!

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;240363]I think the Brunell bashing makes the bashes look stupid and biased. This is a football team and it takes a TEAM to win and a TEAM to lose. You all need to get the f over it and accept that Brunell is OUR QB, like it or not, and SHUT UP![/QUOTE]

biased towards what

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[quote=hesscl34;240363]I think the Brunell bashing makes the bashes look stupid and biased. This is a football team and it takes a TEAM to win and a TEAM to lose. You all need to get the f over it and accept that Brunell is OUR QB, like it or not, and SHUT UP![/quote]

I think [B][U]you[/U][/B] sound like a petulant 5 year old.

We're all entiteld to our opinions and I'm basing mine firmly on what I saw.

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[quote=RedskinRat;240365]I think [B][U]you[/U][/B] sound like a petulant 5 year old.

We're all entiteld to our opinions and I'm basing mine firmly on what I saw.[/quote]

Thank [B][U]you[/U][/B] for the direct insult! A*shole.

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[quote=hesscl34;240366]Thank [B][U]you[/U][/B] for the direct insult! A*shole.[/quote]

Further proof.

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I'm with you hess.

Can't we just let the bashing rest for one week? That was a great win, let's just sit back and enjoy it for a moment.

Campbell is going to be in there soon enough and the haters will finally have their wish, and probably move on to complaining about something else.

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brunell was efficient once again for us, pretty solid game aside from the botched snap, but the win is what really matters. we are limiting turnovers, but not creating them

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I think if you're going to "bash" him for near INTs and say we almost lost the game you have to also say our receivers have dropped passes this season and we've almost won games. For example, while it wasn't necessarily a dropped pass, Brunell's endzone pass to Moss against the Vikings was right on the money. A great play by Sharper prevented a TD and probably a win. But it's part of the game. It's a game of inches as they say

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I'm just glad they were throwing the ball over the middle and down the field....on third and long he actually threw it past the first down marker unlike the last game when it be third and long and he dump it off for 2 yards..

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Here's why I don't think you can let it just be a mindless celebration: Brunell did not play well. It sets the cause back if the cause is a Super Bowl run. I can't blindly wave the flag and Rah-Rah and unless the rules of the forum have changed I believe that we're free to dissent?

I don't enjoy being called stupid by someone who's displaying their own stupidity by making a statement with no facts to back it up.

Watch the film, see what Brunell did, come back and defend what you saw as 'excellent' or 'unbelieveable'. I'll enjoy the debate.

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If you think I'm "stupid" enough to get pulled into this mudslinging contest, think again.

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[quote=hesscl34;240374]If you think I'm "stupid" enough to get pulled into this mudslinging contest, think again.[/quote]

I'm stating facts.

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Fact: We Won!

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;240377]Fact: We Won![/QUOTE]

devil's advocate: so if Novak missed the 2nd kick and we lost, Brunell played lousy? one point doesn't necessarily make the other true.

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[quote=hesscl34;240377]Fact: We Won![/quote]

Not something I'm arguing about.

People are posting like Brunell was dominant. He was barely adequate. While he stays as the starting QB we have to put up with mediocre/sub-par QB play and that's the kind of attitude that prolonges the inevitable.

Watch the game again and tell me what you think.

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POINT is that Brunell is our QB and will remain so the remainder of the year, so why do we have to talk about this week in and week out. He's not going anywhere, and to those of us that like enjoying a WIN, it gets old listening to the same crap over and over and over again from the bashers.

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[quote=RedskinRat;240384]Not something I'm arguing about.

People are posting like Brunell was dominant. He was barely adequate. While he stays as the starting QB we have to put up with mediocre/sub-par QB play and that's the kind of attitude that prolonges the inevitable.

Watch the game again and tell me what you think.[/quote]

[COLOR=black]You need to go back and re-read these posts. Most people are saying he wasn't perfect, but he got the job done. You just won't give the guy credit AT ALL. It makes people very aggravated that you look at his play so critically, but in reality it really wasn't [I][FONT=Verdana]that [/FONT][/I]bad over all. You pick the guy to pieces, and that isn’t fair. If that makes me sound like a 5yr old, so be it. I don’t give a damn. [/COLOR]

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RedskinRat,

You, as everyone else are free to state your opinion. This site would be boring if we all agreed and, so, your opinion brings something to the table. I, however, also reserve the right to say your post has no merit whatsoever. J/k ;)

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[quote=hesscl34;240388][COLOR=black]You need to go back and re-read these posts. Most people are saying he wasn't perfect, but he got the job done. You just won't give the guy credit AT ALL. It makes people very aggravated that you look at his play so critically, but in reality it really wasn't [I][FONT=Verdana]that [/FONT][/I]bad over all. You pick the guy to pieces, and that isn’t fair. If that makes me sound like a 5yr old, so be it. I don’t give a damn. [/COLOR][/quote]

Sorry, just the first few pages:

[I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]He made some nice deep passes
distributing the ball nicely
did a pretty good job
threw some lasers over the middle
played a very good game
he did pretty darn good
played well today
He was a Pro-Bowler today
He was a field general today
a commendable job[/FONT][/I]

No, he didn't, and that's why I said so in my initial post.

My last post in this thread (possibly).

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Im with ya rat. No way in hell ill give him props. Too many throws should have been picked. And so what he played fair. We all know he cant play good two weeks in a row. Fought guts out my ass. If owens caught that ball this would be a brunell bashing thread from hell.

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[quote=Fan4Life;240397]If owens caught that ball this would be a brunell bashing thread from hell.[/quote]And it would still be unjustified.

And this is how many weeks hes played 'well' in a row? What's the number that comes after 1?

I think his last bad game was the first Dallas game. He deserves a lot of the blame for that game, but it was also the most unfavorable of situations.

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[quote=illdefined;240382]devil's advocate: so if Novak missed the 2nd kick and we lost, Brunell played lousy? one point doesn't necessarily make the other true.[/quote]If only I had gotten you to say this when we were losing.

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add an option to this poll for 'Played His Best Game This Season' then. bet most everyone here would agree on THAT at least. some consensus here on Warpath.

and don't even bring up the dink/dunk fest that was Houston. that 'record breaking' performance gets you a win vs. Houston but not anybody else. not even Tennesee...

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We have lost five games. A good deal of the responsibility for those losses has to be put on the anemic performance at QB. The performance yesterday wasn't terrible, but it certainly wasn't strong. It was just good enough. It is not the kind of performance that is needed in order to avoid a losing season.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;240408]If only I had gotten you to say this when we were losing.[/QUOTE]

aw hell i spoke too soon. GTripp thinks Brunell plays this "good" practically every week. well you're wrong, regardless of the stats you have on your calculator, Brunell didn't rely on YAC and short yardage dinks to get him some decent stats *this* game.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;240396]Sorry, just the first few pages:

[I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]He made some nice deep passes
distributing the ball nicely
did a pretty good job
threw some lasers over the middle
played a very good game
he did pretty darn good
played well today
He was a Pro-Bowler today
He was a field general today
a commendable job[/FONT][/I]

No, he didn't, and that's why I said so in my initial post.

My last post in this thread (possibly).[/QUOTE]

Other than played like a Pro Bowler I don't know how you can really argue with any of the other ones