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The Skins said they wanted to take the best player available and they did. I heard some analysts say the two surefire picks in the draft were Calvin Johnson and LaRon Landry.

I just hope Miami misses out on Quinn and Peterson. I hate everything about the dolphins. I hate their colors, I hate Dan Marino, and I hate their stupid logo on their helmets. Come on, that thing is just ridiculous looking.

There I got it out, I feel much better now.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;303747]Laron Lanry

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew"]YouTube - Laron Landry Hit[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKaO78Ov2I&mode=related&search="]YouTube - Laron Landry greatest hits[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJh-5HBgsE&mode=related&search="]YouTube - LaRon Landry's Highschool Highlight Tape[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMupdMwCIjQ&mode=related&search="]YouTube - LSU Football[/URL][/quote]

Like I said, nobody's questioning whether the kid can hit. We've already got a Human Heat Seeking Missile at safety. I seem to recall we were all very excited about another Big Hitter at safety last year as well. What happened to that guy? Or our defense for that matter.

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Landry Highlight Video:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04]YouTube - Laron Landry bonstonker hits mix[/url]

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303751]But, I would have been happy with drafting a DE. I would have been thrilled with drafting Okoye.
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Yeah, it would have been a reach at six, but I was really impressed with all the background on his character and personality. Sure seemed like a guy who could have matured into a team leader and core of the defense.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;303746]So how many would've been happier with Jamaal Anderson?[/QUOTE]

I would have been fine with him. I thought he rivaled Adams...in fact, I think Anderson will be more effective in the NFL than Adams. But we could have really used him or Okoye. We didn't need to fill that safty position.
I am very disappointed.
That's it, I'm going to get back to my drinking. See you guys later.

Before I go, all I can say is, all of you that said or think Landry was the answer, you better be right, cause that's all we have on defense is a secondary.

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holy shit

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suprise of the draft here??

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303751]I honestly do not know much about Anderson and haven't seen him play (other than in highlights and 1 game). But, I would have been happy with drafting a DE. I would have been thrilled with drafting Okoye.

Also, that we have already improved the secondary (with Smoot and Macklin), suggests to me that it was time to focus on the D-line.[/quote]

There does seem to be an imbalance. It says to me that the Fantasy Football, big name, marketing approach is not yet dead at Redskins Park. Cerrato's statement that you don't draft for need is the most idiotic thing I've heard, and he's supposed to be the knowledgeable component of the Snyder/Vinny tandem. If you had ten picks you can do that, but we had just one and you need to use that one to get well. I would have been willing to take my chances with Pray-Low or Stout-Mire. We need more talent, especially at the DE position.

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any guesses on landrys contract or is it still to early to rumble about all the money invested in the backfield compared to the front 4? 5 yr 30 mill range?

if our offense steps up next year i think well be very competitive next year . . . ginn over quinn . . . . wheres that edit button at lol, phins fans sounded steamed!

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Miami didn't draft Quinn....I figured for sure they would've taken him.

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Doesn't it feel like this pick was made because it was the most obvious and least likely to get us ridiculed by NFL commentators, rather than making a move we think would help us the most, even if it might be riskier or more of a waste of such a high pick?

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;303763]Miami didn't draft Quinn....I figured for sure they would've taken him.[/QUOTE]

I'm shocked that he might fall to the middle, or even late, 1st round.

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Ginn to Miami? ARE YOU KIDDING. Left Quinn??? I cannot believe that!!!

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303765]I'm shocked that he might fall to the middle, or even late, 1st round.[/QUOTE]

I figured someone would've picked him up by now.

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Have to admit I have mixed emotions. We really needed a DE or DT very badly, but to be honest if I was in the FO I would have been tempted also to get Landry. Sure we have ST, but what if this guy is another ST? A 4 year starter at LSU is pretty damn good in my opinion and a definite upgrade at safety over Prioleau. In short my Redskin brethren, all is not lost. I think Landry is going to be the real deal for us and well worth the pick. Tomorrow is where it is going to get really interesting.

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Qinn over Quinn... man they must really want trent green

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[quote=dgack;303764]Doesn't it feel like this pick was made because it was the most obvious and least likely to get us ridiculed by NFL commentators, rather than making a move we think would help us the most, even if it might be riskier or more of a waste of such a high pick?[/quote]


I had that thought too. They were stuck at 6 and felt they had to get "value". They probably could have traded down but didn't for similar reasons. They don't want to look like they got taken, even though the results for them might have been marginally better.

For example, you may be better off with a low 1st and a 3rd, even though the pundits might be left scratching their heads. You can help the DL with the low 1st and with the 3rd, well Cooley was taken in the 3rd. You have to do what's best for your team which by the way was 31st on defense last year.

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Well looks like Okoye is going to Houston.

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I dont understand....Okoye only 19 years old and highly talked about. Can you say FO= DUMB. Now the texans have williams and okoye. Unreal good job skins, you failed again!!!

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Quinn falling doesn't surprise me b/c he is a product of the system guy. Landry makes me nervous b/c if u notice all of his highlite reels are of blitzes where an O-linemen doubles a d-linemen and he finds a crease. There are barely any clips of him in coverage AND with our D-line i don't know how many teams are going to double griff or daniels to create those kinds of creases. My prediction is that we are going to trade into the 2nd or 3rd round to get a D-lineman or guard.

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I must say that it must be impossible to trade in this draft. If that is the case then I am a little less upset about our pick.

I really thought that Miami would be all over trading up and I was absolutely floored when they took Ginn.

The thing that worries me the most about Landry is that we now have two guys who are head hunters and that could be both good and bad.

I guess it all depends on how our D line shakes out.

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[quote=Hail2em;303772]I dont understand....Okoye only 19 years old and highly talked about. Can you say FO= DUMB. Now the texans have williams and okoye. Unreal good job skins, you failed again!!![/quote]

Talk doesn't mean jack, or win football games! They picked up the best player available. SMART MOVE.

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Well I thought they would have gone D-Line but Landry is a great player. My quesion is who should the Skins target in free agency to bolster the D Line and guard? The only name I see that keeps coming up in posts is Ian Scott? Is there anyone else out there that can help?

As far as guard - isn't Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack still available? He reminds me of Dockery a little in being a road grader type of guard.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303765]I'm shocked that he might fall to the middle, or even late, 1st round.[/quote]

SGG, I'm not suprised at all. mid/late...1st

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[QUOTE=NYCSkin;303718]Not that down on Landry--but the inability to trade down disappoints me. Still I look forward to seeing Landry on the field (say around Week 10)...[/QUOTE]


Yuo know in order to trade up or down, you have to have a trade partner that you can work out a compatible deal with. Not as easy as many people seem to think, it's not an automatic, we're at the 12th pick now and there has not been a trade yet. I just hope we can address some of the other needs we have with trades, early cuts, or later round DP and UD FA.

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I was in the Gaines Adam or Alan Branch camp because I thought we needed to upgrade our defensive line, BUT drafting Landry will really improve our passing defense and we can now concentrate our 2nd day picks on picking up d-linemen. We've now got two safeties who are pretty interchangeable, and a ton of depth in the secondary with Fox, Prioleau. This pick will make ST even more dangerous, because now you don't know who is coming or staying back, and both guys can cover and hit.

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Well, when we first picked Landry, I was FURIOUS that we didnt trade down. I thought everything worked out perfectly for us.... now seeing how the draft is going; I can't be mad at the Skins' for not trading down, they really had no partners.

As far as Landry...I really wanted to go defensive line. I just think we needed a defensive end, and I would have liked to take Anderson or Okoye. Now part of me (now that its over) am glad we didnt get a DT, because we have Griffin and two guys we drafted last year who I think can be quite good. I'm not estatic, but after seeing that we really couldnt trade down, I'm not as dissapointed as I was initially, I thought I was going to cry.

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If Landry doesn't work out I'm gonna get a LOT of angry Private Messages in three years.

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went back and read a tues wash post article on landry, seems some other nfc execs/scouts dont think landry is cerebral or football knowledgable enough . . . pairing him with ST might be bad idea having two of the same type players, might hurt STs development (probaly the most certain negative sideeffect of adding a rook safety) . . . go skins

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Where's Earthquake?

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[QUOTE=memphisskin;303780]I was in the Gaines Adam or Alan Branch camp because I thought we needed to upgrade our defensive line, BUT drafting Landry will really improve our passing defense and [B]we can now concentrate our 2nd day picks on picking up d-linemen. [/B]We've now got two safeties who are pretty interchangeable, and a ton of depth in the secondary with Fox, Prioleau. This pick will make ST even more dangerous, because now you don't know who is coming or staying back, and both guys can cover and hit.[/QUOTE]


Well, you would think ... but don't be so sure. Watch them take a tight end, a receiver, an offensive guard. It would be a small miracle if they are able to find anyone in the 5th round who could make an impact no matter where they pick.

This front office just doesn't like to take defensive linemen high in the draft.

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What people don't realize is that a good secondary = sacks. Our D- line looked so bad last year because our secondary couldn't cover my grandma (and she runs a 4.9 40), and quarterbacks were making quick throws. The D Line wasn't great, but it wasn't as nearly as bad as it looked. We can pick up some veterans later. Landry is solid at 6, he was the best on the board.

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WHAT!! The skins have 8 CB/SS/FS. Why is a team that had 19 sacks all last year and one of the worst run defenses in the league. Drafting a safety. Skins need help on the Dline. Bad Pick

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Given that they didn't have a trade partner, they took the highest rated D player on their board. Now maybe they didn't evaluate talent correctly (a serious possibility with this group, no doubt) but given that, they made a responsible move as a FO.

Plus, it's clear that Williams believes that the key to his D is proper effective safety play. Now he's got great young talent there. As for the D line, let's hope they can pick up a decent late rounder or late FA to bolster things, and maybe if our LBs and Safeties can play ball properly, our D-line will look better. It's not impossible that bad secondary and LB play made the line look worse... (obviously, this is not conventional wisdom, but perhaps that what GW and co think--and he did have top-10 Ds for us).

A responsible pick--not flashy. That's pretty good from this bunch. And I assume that no one wanted to trade down with us, which is what we all really wanted.

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What makes anyone think that just because you draft a D-lineman that it solves our problems? The fact is not 1 of these guy's had the talent that M. Williams had coming out last year, not as fast, not as strong, not as tall, and look at what kind of a difference he made for Houston. My feeling on these lineman is that they are not impact type lineman, which would leave us in the same position next year, but with Landry I believe barring injury we are set at the safety position for a long time.

The only player who I wouldn't have had a problem with at #6 at DL was Anderson, but there wasen't a ton of film on him to really get a feel for him, but he may be the 1 player that got away. On the other hand none of these guys are S. Merriman in whom I wanted 2 years ago. When it's all said I believe we drafted a difference maker in Landry, I don't believe the other top Lineman are.

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Initially I didn't like the pick, but with the addition of Smoot and Fletcher, I think this pick might be OK. Smoot and FLetcher will improve our run support at the second level to allow Taylor and Landry to play more "Center Field" in Cover 2 rather than having to play run support first. I remeber too many times on replay watching Taylor/Arch/Fox do the "attack the line...then Oh @$&#"...and turn and run to catch up to a receiver behind them or down the middle.
I think Carter will play better this year, Griffin if healthy, will be fine for another year or two. The two young kids and Salavea at DT are not Pro-Bowlers, but not awful either. Wynn and Daniels can platoon at DE. My biggest concern is how long it will take Landry to adjust and not be the weak link in the secondary, hopefully not past Week 8 (wishful thinking I'm afraid). Nothing we can do until tomorrow now.

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Cowgirls are on the clock...hope they take Quinn. LOL

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branch is still on the board...

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;303817]Cowgirls are on the clock...hope they take Quinn. LOL[/quote]
Not gonna happen.

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The Browns take Brady Quinn.