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theJBexperience 11-26-2007 12:21 PM

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This is so shocking and unsettling. Poor, Sean. He seems to get a lot of bad breaks.

I pray he survives and comes out of this a stronger person. To God be the glory of his remarkable recovery. May your protection, healing and comfort be upon Sean and his family. In Jesus' name. Amen.

We love you Sean. Thanks for always playing your heart out for us. Our hearts are with you and your family.

firstdown 11-26-2007 12:21 PM

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[quote=munny;383238]Anyone else think this sounds like a hit? I know I will get flamed for saying it, but it strikes me as awfully co-incendental that the one night he spends at home in Miami is the one night this happens. To me, it sounds like someone found out he was going to be home and struck at it him, either as payback for the earlier incident or some other thing his boys might have been involved in. Just seems like an awfully big conincedence to me.[/quote]
His Boys? So you know who ST hangs around with and make it sound like he has his own little gang.

GTripp0012 11-26-2007 12:22 PM

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I keep hearing from multiple sources, [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/?hpid=topnews"]including JLC[/URL], that the situation is stabilizing. Seems like he's going to make it through this one.

Still, theres absolutely no doubt that you have to shut him down for the year now. Playoff hopes be damned if need be, we should just hope he can one day play for us again. Arterial bleeding is about as serious as an injury can be.

SmootSmack 11-26-2007 12:22 PM

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[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan;383245]When your famous and you make a lot of money you can be a target. We'll find out, but it is a possibility. I'd say it probably reflects on the individual who would perpetrate such a crime rather than on Taylor, who from everything I've seen in the past few years has really become a mature and upright individual. He had some problems early, as every story on this incident has taken the time to mention, but I was very impressed on the few occasions I heard him speak. He had a great understanding of the game and seemed like a very intelligent person besides. Still, your point has some validity and I'd hope that the Miami-Dade police would have that guy who was involved in the earlier case with the ATVs and the lawsuit in for questioning right now.[/QUOTE]

Athletes getting robbed in their home has been a very serious issue over the past year or so.

However, and I've only heard this fom one source so I can't confirm this in any way yet, I've heard some rumors that this wasn't a random robbery. Rumor is this was a crazed fan. If I hear more I'll let you know.

SouperMeister 11-26-2007 12:22 PM

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[quote=munny;383238]Anyone else think this sounds like a hit? I know I will get flamed for saying it, but it strikes me as awfully co-incendental that the one night he spends at home in Miami is the one night this happens. To me, it sounds like someone found out he was going to be home and struck at it him, either as payback for the earlier incident or some other thing his boys might have been involved in. Just seems like an awfully big conincedence to me.[/quote]We really shouldn't speculate on motives behind the incident. The story behind the story will be sorted by the police. All that matters now is that Sean survives for his family's sake. I didn't realize that he had a young child born last year - it makes this sort of thing even more tragic.

theJBexperience 11-26-2007 12:23 PM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;383245]When you're famous and you make a lot of money you can be a target. We'll find out, but it is a possibility. I'd say it probably reflects on the individual who would perpetrate such a crime rather than on Taylor, who from everything I've seen in the past few years has really become a mature and upright individual. He had some problems early, as every story on this incident has taken the time to mention, but I was very impressed on the few occasions I heard him speak. He had a great understanding of the game and seemed like a very intelligent person besides. Still, your point has some validity and I'd hope that the Miami-Dade police would have that guy who was involved in the earlier case with the ATVs and the lawsuit in for questioning right now.[/quote]

Yeah, it's a frightening, disturbing thought but a valid one. Unfortunately, it can be hard to escape the past. Hopefully, Sean leaves South Florida. It is bad news in the Miami area.

VTSkins897 11-26-2007 12:24 PM

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jesus i can't believe this. i am praying that he is okay.

GMScud 11-26-2007 12:25 PM

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Remember how Eddy Curry and Antoine Walker were held at gunpoint and robbed in their home? Taylor is obviously no stranger to guns, and his father is a police cheif in Florida City, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Sean had a gun in the house. Maybe he confronted whoever broke in and was shot in the process. This is TOTAL speculation of course, but how would the Eddy Curry/Antoine Walker situations have turned out if either of those players confronted their prowlers with a weapon?

skinsfan_nn 11-26-2007 12:25 PM

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PRAY-LOW is LIVE ON comcast NOW speaking on ST status.

firstdown 11-26-2007 12:26 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;383243]If he was indeed shot in the femoral artery is it true to keep him alive they may need to amputate his leg?[/quote]
No, only if the loss of blood to his leg was long enough. Not sure what they call this maybe gangreen (speeling) sets in they could have to amputate his leg but that could take several days to tell if that would or could be the case. They had a doc on the radio about this injury.

FRPLG 11-26-2007 12:27 PM

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Let's all just picture this.

Our boy is gonna get through this. He is going to hit this thing as hard as he hits alligator arm WRs and blow it the f*ck out of the water. And then next season he will come back and lead us. He will annihalate opposing players and blow Cowboys up like toy soldiers. That's how I am going to look at it. I can't for the guy to come back full strength. I am not going to dwell on the potential negatives. Let's think positive.

theJBexperience 11-26-2007 12:30 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;383250]Athletes getting robbed in their home has been a very serious issue over the past year or so.

However, and I've only heard this fom one source so I can't confirm this in any way yet, I've heard some rumors that this wasn't a random robbery. Rumor is this was a crazed fan. If I hear more I'll let you know.[/quote]

You're right. That has been a very serious issue. Wasn't Antoine Walker robbed in his home earlier this year? Was that in South FL too?

If this was a crazed fan, this incident would become far more tragic. Seriously, why can't some people just get a grip.

chrisl4064 11-26-2007 12:30 PM

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Im still in shock that the call to the police went out at 1:45 and the police didnt get there until 2:00. That means he was bleeding out for 15 minutes at least until a turniqit was thrown on to stop the bleeding... of course the times may not be accurate, but ive seen guys bleed out in minutes when hit in the femoral.

SmootSmack 11-26-2007 12:32 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;383256]PRAY-LOW is LIVE ON comcast NOW speaking on ST status.[/QUOTE]

Can you tell us what he's saying?

NYCSkin 11-26-2007 12:33 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;383243]If he was indeed shot in the femoral artery is it true to keep him alive they may need to amputate his leg?[/quote]
Amputation is generally predicated on the extent of the blunt trauma to the femoral artery, the amount of vascular reconstruction needed, whether associated vessels were injured, and whether his tibia was fractured by the bullet. If his injury incorporates many (or all) of these variables--then the rate of amputation increases.

SC Skins Fan 11-26-2007 12:34 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;383263]Can you tell us what he's saying?[/quote]

Basically everyone is talking about how much Sean has matured over the past few years, how he is a different person from '05, how he has changed since starting a family. James Thrash is talking right now, you can get the live stream from Redskins.com.

Thrash: We're praying for his family; the Skins have organized a prayer meeting and have prayed; during team meeting pastor came in and team prayed.

Dlyne8r 11-26-2007 12:34 PM

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And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. I understand the curiosity of the media and regular peeps as well to question this crime, but to dwell on the negative reminds me of the Don Henley tune "Dirty Laundry." I just wish everyone would wait for the facts before speculating and making assumptions. We will know the facts when they are discovered.

SkinsFan6388 11-26-2007 12:36 PM

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cowherd is one of the bigger dickheads in the media

SC Skins Fan 11-26-2007 12:38 PM

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[quote=Dlyne8r;383266]And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. I understand the curiosity of the media and regular peeps as well to question this crime, but to dwell on the negative reminds me of the Don Henley tune "Dirty Laundry." I just wish everyone would wait for the facts before speculating and making assumptions. We will know the facts when they are discovered.[/quote]

Yeah, no one is reporting on how much Sean has grown over the past couple of years. Cowherd is a douchebag, who is entertaining at times but basically a callous prick, as illustrated by the above. If you haven't followed the Redskins all you know is the bad stuff from a couple of years ago, but Redskins fans and players know better how much maturing Sean has done. Basically they don't know what they are talking about, think that people are incapable of change apparently, and don't follow the Redskins close enough to make a half-way intelligent comment and instead revert to speculation and misinformation.

mheisig 11-26-2007 12:38 PM

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[QUOTE=doxiechic12000;383242]My experience in working in the medical field lets me know one thing : Gunshot wounds to the thigh DO NOT require getting air lifted to a hospital, you go by ambulance. This is not good my friends.

Im gonna go pray.....[/QUOTE]

Yeah, my thoughts exactly, but from a law enforcement perspective.

I was the first officer on two scenes in the last year where the victims were shot in the legs. One guy was shot through the thigh and calf with a 9mm handgun, the other was shot through the thigh with a .22 rifle.

Both were evacuated by ambulance, not helicopter. In fact, with the first one (the one shot with the 9mm), myself, the victim and another officer had to remain behind the cover of a pickup truck given that the shooter was supposedly in a building directly across from us. We were eventually evacuated by the SWAT team about 30-45 minutes after my arrival.

As far as I know both victims made it fine. The one shot with the 9mm was lucid and talkative the entire time I was with him.

I guess it all depends on where the shots landed and, specifically, with what weapon he was shot. Makes me think this was a particularly bad circumstance since he was taken out via helicopter.

mheisig 11-26-2007 12:39 PM

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[QUOTE=Dlyne8r;383266]And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. I understand the curiosity of the media and regular peeps as well to question this crime, but to dwell on the negative reminds me of the Don Henley tune "Dirty Laundry." I just wish everyone would wait for the facts before speculating and making assumptions. We will know the facts when they are discovered.[/QUOTE]

Why don't these asswipes shut the fuck up until the guy is stabilized and an official investigation reveals something? Why assume the absolute worst when there are zero facts to support it?

Douchebag media.

GTripp0012 11-26-2007 12:41 PM

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[quote=Dlyne8r;383266]And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. I understand the curiosity of the media and regular peeps as well to question this crime, but to dwell on the negative reminds me of the Don Henley tune "Dirty Laundry." I just wish everyone would wait for the facts before speculating and making assumptions. We will know the facts when they are discovered.[/quote]Well give Cowherd some credit at least. Those 60 seconds he spent Googling ST are 60 more seconds than he has ever spent researching anything else in the world of sports.

skinsfan_nn 11-26-2007 12:42 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;383263]Can you tell us what he's saying?[/quote]

Guys, When Pray-low finished, James T. being they were both recovering together from injuries and had grown close as friends, got up for the presser.

He stated the team had gathered for prayer. That they where all waiting for some word from the ST family and very concerned from the news they have recieved to this point. He also stated of course this is very difficult and they are just waiting and praying.

Southpaw 11-26-2007 12:43 PM

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[quote=Dlyne8r;383266]And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. [/quote]

He was at his fucking home with his family! If he was out looking for trouble, it would be a different story, but I guarantee you there is nothing he's done in his past that deserves getting gunned down in his own home.

SmootSmack 11-26-2007 12:45 PM

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Pay no attention to Cowherd. All he wants to do ever is rile up his listeners. If it's not about college football he really doesn't care.

GMScud 11-26-2007 12:48 PM

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I just heard he's in a coma?? Anyone confirm or deny?? I have so much shit to do today and I can't concentrate on anything but this.

skinsnut 11-26-2007 12:49 PM

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[QUOTE=GMScud;383275]I just heard he's in a coma?? Anyone confirm or deny?? I have so much shit to do today and I can't concentrate on anything but this.[/QUOTE]


Pleaes reveal your source

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-26-2007 12:50 PM

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[QUOTE=GMScud;383275]I just heard he's in a coma?? Anyone confirm or deny?? I have so much shit to do today and I can't concentrate on anything but this.[/QUOTE]

Jesus. Where did you hear that?

VTSkins897 11-26-2007 12:50 PM

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yeah this is horrible horrible news. just pray he's okay.

skinsfan_nn 11-26-2007 12:50 PM

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[quote=GMScud;383275]I just heard he's in a coma?? Anyone confirm or deny?? I have so much shit to do today and I can't concentrate on anything but this.[/quote]

GM, where did you get that info?

munny 11-26-2007 12:52 PM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;383245]When you're famous and you make a lot of money you can be a target. We'll find out, but it is a possibility. I'd say it probably reflects on the individual who would perpetrate such a crime rather than on Taylor, who from everything I've seen in the past few years has really become a mature and upright individual. He had some problems early, as every story on this incident has taken the time to mention, but I was very impressed on the few occasions I heard him speak. He had a great understanding of the game and seemed like a very intelligent person besides. Still, your point has some validity and I'd hope that the Miami-Dade police would have that guy who was involved in the earlier case with the ATVs and the lawsuit in for questioning right now.[/quote]

Yeah. I am not knocking the guy. Aside from some early bumps in the road(and the one large bump) he has been a great team guy. Doesn't run his mouth with the media, just goes out and does his job. I certainly hope he pulls through. We know so little about what happened though, that you do have to wonder...

TheBigD 11-26-2007 12:52 PM

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WOW, I keep reading these posts but still can't beleive what they are saying.

This is some bad news and not what the Skins needed at this point.

I really was hoping that he could come back healthy for the last game. I wanted to Dallas to beat the Skins with ST in the line-up. Now, games and wins seem kind of meaningless when someone's life is on the line.

I really do hope he gets better and recovers from this incident.

skinsnut 11-26-2007 12:52 PM

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ESPN reports he was shot twice

VTSkins897 11-26-2007 12:53 PM

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[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7490604]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Taylor in critical condition after shooting[/url]

"He's in critical condition and has somewhat stabilized after surgery, but things could go either way at this point," the source said. "He's lost an incredible amount of blood. At this point, we're just waiting to see how he responds to the surgery."

An Extremeskins poster said this:

Channel 5 news (Fox 5) just reported that Sean Taylor is in a coma right now. Do keep him in prayer.

GMScud 11-26-2007 12:54 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;383276]Pleaes reveal your source[/quote]

From a friend who heard it from someone else. It's unsubstaniated. That's why I was asking if anyone else heard anything like that.

GMScud 11-26-2007 12:55 PM

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[quote=VTSkins897;383284][URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7490604"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Taylor in critical condition after shooting[/URL]

"He's in critical condition and has somewhat stabilized after surgery, but things could go either way at this point," the source said. "He's lost an incredible amount of blood. At this point, we're just waiting to see how he responds to the surgery."

An Extremeskins poster said this:

[B]Channel 5 news (Fox 5) just reported that Sean Taylor is in a coma right now. Do keep him in prayer.[/B][/quote]

SHIT! There you go.

jaheem 11-26-2007 12:55 PM

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Sean Taylor is a true Redskins...he has done nothing but sacrifice his body and well-being for this team over these last years...there is not a man on this board who can truly call himself a man....who would not do everything that they can to prtect their family and their home....he went to his backdoor to check on a noise and he was unfortunately he was shot....he did exactly what I would have done....attempt to make sure my family was ok...if he was a "thug" like SOME in the media have tried to paint him to be...he would have shot the intruder....however Sean merely tried to make sure his family was fine...doesn't matter if this was retribution, crazed fan, or random violence...a young man...24 years old was shot....He has become the unassuming face of the franchise particularly since LaVar has left....aside from everything else....we need to send our thoughts and prayers to Sean, his daughter, and his loved ones....

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-26-2007 12:56 PM

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;383282]WOW, I keep reading these posts but still can't beleive what they are saying.

This is some bad news and not what the Skins needed at this point.

I really was hoping that he could come back healthy for the last game. I wanted to Dallas to beat the Skins with ST in the line-up. Now, games and wins seem kind of meaningless when someone's life is on the line.

I really do hope he gets better and recovers from this incident.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the classy post and the kind words BigD.

Beemnseven 11-26-2007 12:57 PM

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[QUOTE=Dlyne8r;383266]And now Collin Cowturd on ESPN is spinning the negative on ST. He said he "spent 60 seconds Googling Sean Taylor" and he pulled up all of his troubled past, blah, blah, blah. He thinks this was not a "random" incident. I understand the curiosity of the media and regular peeps as well to question this crime, but to dwell on the negative reminds me of the Don Henley tune "Dirty Laundry." I just wish everyone would wait for the facts before speculating and making assumptions. We will know the facts when they are discovered.[/QUOTE]

I just sent him a not-so-friendly email.

GridIron26 11-26-2007 12:58 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;383291]I just sent him a not-so-friendly email.[/quote]

Thank you


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