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Holt over TO anyday!!!!!! Holt is the consumate professional. I know it is unlikely we will go for him, but he might be a decent grab if the money isn't too steep, but of course it will probably be since the Haynesworth deal.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534529]If he can have 1200 yards in Detroit he will have a huge year as the #1 receiver in Dallas.

Cooley is right there with Witten as a pass catcher and ball carrier (maybe a shade better) but he isn't near the blocker that Witten is.

Witten can shut down our ends without help, at least he could before the big boy showed up![/quote]


Roy is great, but everything depends on Romo. I think Romo could be in for a bumpy ride in '09.

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[quote=GMScud;534551]Make that 14.02%.

I guess wish some of these folks voting "yes" would grow some nads (maybe that's the genetic defect caused by only having 43 chromosomes) and explain themselves.[/quote]


Funny. TO would piss off Moss and ARE with his antics. I think the Holt angle would be beneficial though.

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[quote=44ever;534553]My guess would be there are a lot of Redskins fans that would Love to have TO on the Skins but wont admit it. Or at least entertain the thought. IMO.[/quote]


I voted NO, but I will admit being tempted. Our WR corp outside of Moss is average at best. TO is crazy though and needs constant attention like the baby he is. He likes to cause shit to in order to get that attention. Overall he didn't make that great of an impact in Dallas last season either. His skills are unbelievable, but with his attitude those skills are negated for the most part, thus my unequivocal NO.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;534558]I voted NO, but I will admit being tempted. Our WR corp outside of Moss is average at best. TO is crazy though and needs constant attention like the baby he is. He likes to cause shit to in order to get that attention. Overall he didn't make that great of an impact in Dallas last season either. His skills are unbelievable, but with his attitude those skills are negated for the most part, thus my unequivocal NO.[/quote]

I voted no also. Entertained the thought myself. But thats as far as it went.

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I voted no, I maintain no, and I would not ever say anything except no.

BUT

Some team will say yes, and when they do their reason will be that TO will play lights out his first season, and they would be right. Then they will say that they have the personnel and staff to keep him happy/calm and they would be wrong!

My vote is that he will go to the Raiders, and finish his career there. (any tupa award available here?)

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I didn't even entertain the thought, for two reasons- first off, he's obviously a gigantic malignant tumor in any locker room, and secondly he's 35 years old. His skills are bound to start falling off soon.

I would however entertain the thought if he was 5 or so years younger, despite his me-first antics.

Herman Edwards made a great comment about TO on SportsCenter this morning. He said, "you can't marry TO (i.e. long term deal), you can only date him for a year or two." I thought that was funny and right on.

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[quote=GMScud;534598]I didn't even entertain the thought, for two reasons- first off, he's obviously a gigantic malignant tumor in any locker room, and secondly he's 35 years old. His skills are bound to start falling off soon.

I would however entertain the thought if he was 5 or so years younger, despite his me-first antics.

Herman Edwards made a great comment about TO on SportsCenter this morning. He said, "you can't marry TO (i.e. long term deal), you can only date him for a year or two." I thought that was funny and right on.[/quote]

Kinda like the Hottest girls always seem to be the craziest. I found that out the hard way.

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A Dallas reporter was asked if T.O. had failed during his time as a Cowboy. The reporter said that "T.O. had talked about bringing a championship to Dallas when he signed there and he did'nt, so in that regard yes" I'm paraphrasing but let's face it, they didn't even win a playoff game so really, how valuable is T.O.? Not that it all should be on his shoulders, but it's not like they were Detroit when he got there.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;534497]Never mind, a more up to date list.... and YES of course the iggles earned there spot.

[URL="http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/TO_THE_ANSWER_IS_NO.html"]T.O.? THE ANSWER IS NO. | Philadelphia Inquirer | 03/05/2009[/URL]

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2009, 11:17 a.m. EST

As we’re doing with Mike Vick, we’ll be keeping a running tally of all of the teams that have said ”thanks” followed immediately by “no thanks” to the possibility of signing receiver Terrell Owens.

Please note that this only reflects teams that already have said that they’re not interested:

The Dallas Cowboys. (Duh.)

The New York Giants.

The Washington Redskins.

The Baltimore Ravens.

The San Francisco 49ers.

The Minnesota Vikings.

The Atlanta Falcons.

The Cleveland Browns.

The San Diego Chargers.

The Philadelphia Eagles.

The New York Jets.

The Tennessee Titans.

The St. Louis Rams.

Here are the teams that likely will join the list soon:

The Miami Dolphins.[/quote]


Pretty sad if you think about it,I mean really these teams have come out and sad ..."no matter how bad we are...WE DON"T WANT YOU"!

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[quote=44ever;534601]Kinda like the Hottest girls always seem to be the craziest. I found that out the hard way.[/quote]

By that theory, hess must of have been smoking hot.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;534502]POS is dead on! You look at that list damn near half the league, won't touch the clown.

Then you have 4 or so really good teams left that aren't on the list....you have to wonder about a team like ole the pats, maybe pitts...and if they might make a run at this retard..?[/quote]

What team would waste 9.5 million for a 10 TD 2008 player who is second to Jerry Rice in TD's? This motherf ker has to be a parasite in the lockeroom and we already know he's said in public!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;534654]By that theory, hess must of have been smoking hot.

Sorry, couldn't resist.[/quote]

....:)

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I'm betting this is getting to be very humbling to him or I atleast hope so. Yea you may be good T.O. but at some point when you burn too many bridges this is what happens.

PFT mentioned that either he goes to one of the teams left that has not commented whoever that maybe or he ends up with one of the teams who already said no but for a cheap price. Unfortunatly I had already thought of that meaning I hope his agent does not contact Snyder asking for him to do him a solid and hire T.O. on the cheap for a one year deal. I know the Skins said no but the agent and Snyder are always working together in some capacity to either drive up the cost on another player or rework contracts or picking up decent players.

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Where is the vote for "HECK NO!"? Could the person, who put this poll up, please edit it and add the "HECK NO!" option. Thanks.

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Really? Almost 12% of people said yes? That's surprising.

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NOOOO thanks to Team Obliterator...quote..Skip Bayless

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[quote=JoeRedskin;534654]By that theory, hess must of have been smoking hot.

Sorry, couldn't resist.[/quote]


If they are red headed that rule goes out the window. Red heads are just plain crazy hot or not and hess was defininetly NOT!

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From RI:

He says his friend is a waiter there and his friend knows what T.O. definitely looks like…not sure if I believe it though.



NEWSFLASH:
A good friend of mine works at Old Ebbett's Grill and told me that T.O. was eating there with an unnamed "Redskins official." This is totally thirdhand information but I lost a lot of sleep over it and felt the need to pass it on. Lets just hope he was in the throes of one of his many, many, acid flashbacks when he digested this intel.

I really wish i was sh*****g you guys.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | March 6, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

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[quote=mredskins;534741]From RI:

He says his friend is a waiter there and his friend knows what T.O. definitely looks like…not sure if I believe it though.



NEWSFLASH:
A good friend of mine works at Old Ebbett's Grill and told me that T.O. was eating there with an unnamed "Redskins official." This is totally thirdhand information but I lost a lot of sleep over it and felt the need to pass it on. Lets just hope he was in the throes of one of his many, many, acid flashbacks when he digested this intel.

I really wish i was sh*****g you guys.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | March 6, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse[/quote]

Wait--sorry if you already clarified this, but was this yesterday? Or within the last few days? Old Ebbet's isn't exactly an anonymous, out-of-the way place to go eat--the only thing between Old Ebbet's and the WHITE HOUSE is the Treasury bldg. So, if TO showed up at Old Ebbit's during the same week he gets cut from the Cowboys, you'd have to admit that it would be EXTREMELY unlikely that reports of his presence would come from only, as you put it, third-hand sources.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;534749]Wait--sorry if you already clarified this, but was this yesterday? Or within the last few days? Old Ebbet's isn't exactly an anonymous, out-of-the way place to go eat--the only thing between Old Ebbet's and the WHITE HOUSE is the Treasury bldg. So, if TO showed up at Old Ebbit's during the same week he gets cut from the Cowboys, you'd have to admit that it would be EXTREMELY unlikely that reports of his presence would come from only, as you put it, third-hand sources.[/quote]

Plus I heard he and Rosenshit were in Memphis allegedly meeting with the Titans.

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[quote=mredskins;534741]From RI:

He says his friend is a waiter there and his friend knows what T.O. definitely looks like…not sure if I believe it though.



NEWSFLASH:
A good friend of mine works at Old Ebbett's Grill and told me that T.O. was eating there with an unnamed "Redskins official." This is totally thirdhand information but I lost a lot of sleep over it and felt the need to pass it on. Lets just hope he was in the throes of one of his many, many, acid flashbacks when he digested this intel.

I really wish i was sh*****g you guys.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | March 6, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse[/quote]

How would this person have known it was a Redskins official that "Terrell Owens" was having lunch with?

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^Perhaps the Redskins jacket. lol. JK. :)

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I was thinking about this T.O. situation and I believe that Roger Goodell needs to step in and either suspend T.O. or require that whoever signs him has some sort of behavior clause in the contract. I think this would send a strong message that being a jacka$$ in this league doesn't payoff. As much as I think that the environments that T.O. has been (in somewhat dysfunctional teams) have catered to his selfishness, I would hate to see him go to New England, do well, and act like nothing has happened.

I personally think Bill Belichick will take T.O. and they're going to blow up the league. And after destroying three franchises, T.O. will come out unscathed. If it is true that there are teams interested, it shows that this league is willing to let talented clowns continue with their antics.

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This is a great write up on why TO should be done in the NFL. My favorite line: He's a "malcontent with enough red flags to decorate every porch in China." LOL!!

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ag8ERTEpTOUrtAj3PQhiroQ5nYcB?slug=cr-owens030509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]This should spell the end for T.O. - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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I think he will end up with the Colts or NE

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[quote=mredskins;534741]From RI:

He says his friend is a waiter there and his friend knows what T.O. definitely looks like…not sure if I believe it though.



NEWSFLASH:
A good friend of mine works at Old Ebbett's Grill and told me that T.O. was eating there with an unnamed "Redskins official." This is totally thirdhand information but I lost a lot of sleep over it and felt the need to pass it on. Lets just hope he was in the throes of one of his many, many, acid flashbacks when he digested this intel.

I really wish i was sh*****g you guys.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | March 6, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse[/quote]
So a waiter knew it was a Redskins Offical and decided to not say who it was? That would only make sense if it was a reporter with inside scoop not for some waiter.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534762]I was thinking about this T.O. situation and I believe that Roger Goodell needs to step in and either suspend T.O. or require that whoever signs him has some sort of behavior clause in the contract. I think this would send a strong message that being a jacka$$ in this league doesn't payoff. As much as I think that the environments that T.O. has been (in somewhat dysfunctional teams) have catered to his selfishness, I would hate to see him go to New England, do well, and act like nothing has happened.

I personally think Bill Belichick will take T.O. and they're going to blow up the league. And after destroying three franchises, T.O. will come out unscathed. If it is true that there are teams interested, it shows that this league is willing to let talented clowns continue with their antics.[/quote]

I think before he steps into any thing maybe he should look at players breaking the law. Like TO or not you do not ever hear of him getting into trouble or out getting drunk in bars (and thats not illegal). He is a head case but after that seems to be a decent person.

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Reading these updates are hilarious:

"There's no way he's coming here" from every rumored team. :D

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=718]Terrell Owens[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;534769]I think before he steps into any thing maybe he should look at players breaking the law. Like TO or not you do not ever hear of him getting into trouble or out getting drunk in bars (and thats not illegal). He is a head case but after that seems to be a decent person.[/quote]

Eh. Just because he stays on the right side of the law doesn't mean he's not a slimy dude.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534762]I was thinking about this T.O. situation and I believe that Roger Goodell needs to step in and either suspend T.O. or require that whoever signs him has some sort of behavior clause in the contract. I think this would send a strong message that being a jacka$$ in this league doesn't payoff. As much as I think that the environments that T.O. has been (in somewhat dysfunctional teams) have catered to his selfishness, I would hate to see him go to New England, do well, and act like nothing has happened.

I personally think Bill Belichick will take T.O. and they're going to blow up the league. And after destroying three franchises, T.O. will come out unscathed. If it is true that there are teams interested, it shows that this league is willing to let talented clowns continue with their antics.[/quote]

Suspend him for what exactly?

There's no rules against being a jackass.

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I voted yes. And I would have voted yes when he left San Fran and when he left Philly. The guy doesnt have off the field issues that are illegal. He just wants to win and wants the ball. And when he has the ball hes been one of the best. Now yes he dropped a lot of passes last year but we really have the pieces in place that he could step in and help. We dont need him to be 115 catched, 1500 yds and 15 tds. But think of what Moss could do with him on the otherside. Maybe the guy really wants a ring and to come in as an older guy and contribute. Give the rookies another year or let them compete as the number 3 guy but I think he makes our offense so much more dynamic. And who cares about the money Snyder always figures that out. After cutting Taylor we have the money to sign him. And considering Philly and New York are big options for him Id much rather have him with me then against me.

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[quote=firstdown;534769]I think before he steps into any thing maybe he should look at players breaking the law. Like TO or not you do not ever hear of him getting into trouble or out getting drunk in bars (and thats not illegal). He is a head case but after that seems to be a decent person.[/quote]


I just read the comment and was passing it along. I have been there to eat before and I would think considering where it is in DC and the level of service that can easily have "secert" guest there without anyone knowing. I bet a million bucks Obama has already eaten there. Plus I could see a waiter being seceritive there as well because he would fear his losing his job because of lose lips. I could imangine a waiter there probably makes six figures in a good year.

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[quote=Mattyk72;534778]Suspend him for what exactly?

There's no rules against being a jackass.[/quote]

Sadly there aren't. I'm surprise that there aren't any league code of conduct that would punish this type of behavior.

Whoever signs he would be smart to put some clause about his behavior. But it only takes one team to take him 'as is' to make this impossible. Knowing Drew Rosenhaus, he's not going to get T.O. signed for cheap anywhere.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534787]Sadly there aren't. I'm surprise that there aren't any league code of conduct that would punish this type of behavior.

Whoever signs he would be smart to put some clause about his behavior. But it only takes one team to take him 'as is' to make this impossible. Knowing Drew Rosenhaus, he's not going to get T.O. signed for cheap anywhere.[/quote]

Teams can police themselves. A la Gruden kicking Keyshwan Johnson off the Bucs, Andy Reid kicking TO off the Eagles, Steve Smith getting suspended two games for putting a dent in Ken Lucas' face, etc.

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[quote=GMScud;534789]Teams can police themselves. A la Gruden kicking Keyshwan Johnson off the Bucs, Andy Reid kicking TO off the Eagles, Steve Smith getting suspended two games for putting a dent in Ken Lucas' face, etc.[/quote]

True, but I bet someone is going to pick him up and give him a good contract. Initially when all these teams came out and said no to him, I was hoping that it would continue like that and he would eventually sign somewhere for the vet min. Now that there are apparently teams interested in him, I bet Rosenhaus will find a team to give him a good contract.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534793]True, but I bet someone is going to pick him up and give him a good contract. Initially when all these teams came out and said no to him, [B]I was hoping that it would continue like that and he would eventually sign somewhere for the vet min.[/B] Now that there are apparently teams interested in him, I bet Rosenhaus will find a team to give him a good contract.[/quote]

I think he'd retire before he'd play for the vet min.

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Why should he play for vet-min? He's still one of the best WR's in the league. I hope he finds a team outside of the NFC East. And continues his career.From a fan of Football in general. I enjoy watching TO play.

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^ I agree much like WWE the NFL needs it's balance of faces and heels in order to make the story lines flow.

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[quote=44ever;534801]Why should he play for vet-min? He's still one of the best WR's in the league. I hope he finds a team outside of the NFC East. And continues his career.From a fan of Football in general. I enjoy watching TO play.[/quote]

Is Arena Football still in business?