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Here is a [URL="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/pdf/CS_North-Korea.pdf"]Library of Congress country study on NK[/URL], start at page 245 (p. 285 in my Adobe reader) for a list of NK units as of 2009, Honestly I thought the chart gave a nice clean breakdown, and don't really even understand what you are disputing about it, it was just a base info sheet
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For starters that jpeg uses some of the most recent goofy pictures of NK buffonery.
Makes me not want to read it at all. How can it be taken seriously? The B-2s are not there, neither are the F-22s. The warship quantity should re-written as 47 "warboats". They are barely worth mentioning as they will all dissapear in the first 10 days if things got real bad. 700 fighters? Total bullshit. Even if you wittled that down to 300, most of them are 1960s technology. Some left over from the original war and I'd venture that all of them are dependent on ground control during combat. They still use MiG-17s. You see more of those in airshows than you do in someones military. That jpeg is meant to impress complete laymen. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1002805]Here is a [URL="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/pdf/CS_North-Korea.pdf"]Library of Congress country study on NK[/URL], start at page 245 (p. 285 in my Adobe reader) for a list of NK units as of 2009, Honestly I thought the chart gave a nice clean breakdown, and don't really even understand what you are disputing about it, it was just a base info sheet[/quote]
Looks interesting but I cant load that here at work on this crappy PC. I'll take a look at it when I get home. |
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1002809]For starters that jpeg uses some of the most recent goofy pictures of NK buffonery.
Makes me not want to read it at all. How can it be taken seriously? The B-2s are not there, neither are the F-22s. The warship quantity should re-written as 47 "warboats". They are barely worth mentioning as they will all dissapear in the first 10 days if things got real bad. 700 fighters? Total bullshit. Even if you wittled that down to 300, most of them are 1960s technology. Some left over from the original war and I'd venture that all of them are dependent on ground control during combat. They still use MiG-17s. You see more of those in airshows than you do in someones military. That jpeg is meant to impress complete laymen.[/quote] I didn't mean it to do more than just give a ball park comparison, which I think it did nicely. Sorry it doesn't do it for you. |
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Meh......their air force and navy are not the concern anyways AFAIC.
Nukes Chemical weapons Their large artillery force. Their large mobile infantry. Those are the four things I would be worried about most. |
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1002787]...
[B]If North korea has 700 fighter jets then my name is Alice Cooper. [/B]...[/quote] From the Library of Congress Document I linked earlier (p.252 actual 291 acrobat reader) [quote]the [North Korean]air force has about 110,000 airmen and is equipped with an aging fleet of more than 1,600 aircraft that [B]includes about 780 fighters, 80 bombers[/B], 300 helicopters, 300 An–2 biplanes, and more than 100 support craft. About 70 percent of the fixed-wing aircraft are first- and second- generation Soviet-made fighters and bombers, including MiG–15, –17, –19, and –21 fighters and Il–28 fighter-bombers. The air force also has many third- and fourth-generation Soviet-made aircraft such as MiG–23 and MiG–29 fighters and Su–25 ground attack aircraft. Among its rotor-wing fleet are a significant number of Mi–2s, Mi–4s, Mi–8s, Mi–17s, and Hughes–500 multirole helicopters. [/quote] Can I call you Alice now? (I understand they aren't a threat per se because they are aging, and their pilots get an average of 20 hours flying time a year, just numbers that would have to be shot down) |
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North Korea may have some military numbers, but they couldnt logistically support a war. Fuel and food are expensive. Alot of their vehicles are old too, arent they?
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1002827]From the Library of Congress Document I linked earlier (p.252 actual 291 acrobat reader)
Can I call you Alice now? (I understand they aren't a threat per se because they are aging, and their pilots get an average of 20 hours flying time a year, just numbers that would have to be shot down)[/quote] Good researching. How many of them are operational? Cause if they cant fly then they are just lawn ornaments. If you look at them on Google earth, thats what they appear to be. And I find it amusing that you would bother to list the AN-2s. |
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Phear the mighty AN-2.
160 MPH top speed. [img]http://www.allaviationsites.com/news/gallery/antonov-2-an2/antonov_an_2_1.jpg[/img] |
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[quote=Chico23231;1002829]North Korea may have some military numbers, but they couldnt logistically support a war. Fuel and food are expensive. Alot of their vehicles are old too, arent they?[/quote]
This is why I fear a land war. IF they were to fire off a ton of missiles, then make a dash to SK's front line stocks, the initiative would allow them, most likely to get the needed supplies like fuel and food to keep their military going. I know they don't have a lot of supplies, but EVERY thing in that country is earmarked first and foremost for the military, and they would burn through their supplies in an all out push to get to SK's back stocks. Wouldn't shock me if they have several tunnels that the South hasn't found, (they found 4 across the length of the DMZ), which would allow troops to start behind the frontlines. |
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1002833]Phear the mighty AN-2.
160 MPH top speed. [img]http://www.allaviationsites.com/news/gallery/antonov-2-an2/antonov_an_2_1.jpg[/img][/quote] lol for the record, I just took the words right off the page, and only so that I could call you Alice :cheeky-sm |
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[quote=Chico23231;1002829]North Korea may have some military numbers, but they couldnt logistically support a war. Fuel and food are expensive. Alot of their vehicles are old too, arent they?[/quote]
If they massed quickly and pushed south before we got organized I think they could take Seoul. They wouldnt be able to keep it but it would be messed us very very badly and set the world on its ear. A lot of Americans (military) and south Koreans would be dead. Say good bye to the KIA factory. |
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1002836]If they massed quickly and pushed south before we got organized I think they could take Seoul.
They wouldnt be able to keep it but it would be messed us very very badly and set the world on its ear. A lot of Americans (military) and south Koreans would be dead. Say good bye to the KIA factory.[/quote] Forget KIA, where would we get our new Samsung Galaxy S5's from!!! (maybe Apple is prodding NK? hmmm) |
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1002826]Meh......their air force and navy are not the concern anyways AFAIC.
Nukes Chemical weapons Their large artillery force. Their large mobile infantry. Those are the four things I would be worried about most.[/quote] I agree, and I might put chemical ahead of nukes, because I could see them more likely using them inside SK, then what nukes they do have. |
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Yep....if the chemical wepaons are artillary capable then just shoot them en masse....wait an hour and invade.
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Would we use nuclear weapons if they invaded SK?
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1002842]Would we use nuclear weapons if they invaded SK?[/QUOTE]
no way Obama would authorize nukes for anything less than an attack on the US |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1002843]no way Obama would authorize nukes for anything less than an attack on the US[/quote]
What if they really had Godzilla? Hopefully if not nuclear weapons, Obama could launch Mothra |
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[quote=Chico23231;1002829]North Korea may have some military numbers, but they couldnt logistically support a war. Fuel and food are expensive. Alot of their vehicles are old too, arent they?[/quote]
Correct. Half the country is starving now. North Koreans only eat because they get food shipments from outside - i imagine those would stop as soon as North Korea started a war. Also, the article i linked to earlier said those 700 planes couldnt all fly because they dont have enough fuel. Ultimately, the only real threat North Korea poses to South Korea is in its sheer number of troops. There are no civilians in the DMZ, so if North Korea tried to send troops accross, it would be easily caught on Satellite and South Korea and its Allies could just bomb the crap out of them. The key would be dropping bombs on them before they crossed into South Korea. |
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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1002846]Correct. Half the country is starving now. North Koreans only eat because they get food shipments from outside - i imagine those would stop as soon as North Korea started a war. Also, the article i linked to earlier said those 700 planes couldnt all fly because they dont have enough fuel.
Ultimately, the only real threat North Korea poses to South Korea is in its sheer number of troops. There are no civilians in the DMZ, so if North Korea tried to send troops accross, it would be easily caught on Satellite and South Korea and its Allies could just bomb the crap out of them. The key would be dropping bombs on them before they crossed into South Korea.[/quote] You put no stock in any threat of tunnels under the DMZ? Some of the 4 we found would allow for some pretty serious troop movement. |
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[url=http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/344855/ex-n-korea-spy-says-kim-struggling-to-control-military]Ex-N.Korea spy says Kim struggling to control military | Bangkok Post: news[/url]
Interesting view from a former NK spy. [quote=Chico23231;1002842]Would we use nuclear weapons if they invaded SK?[/quote] Not going to happen. Even if NK had a nuclear weapon and used it, we still probably would not retaliate with a nuke. Why? Well, the fact that China is sitting right next to it is a large reason. You can't predict how radiation clouds will move due to mother nature and if China got flooded with a radiation cloud, you can bet they would be more than pissed. We would too. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1002849]You put no stock in any threat of tunnels under the DMZ? Some of the 4 we found would allow for some pretty serious troop movement.[/quote]
I didnt know about the tunnels. I would imagine that, after they were found, the SK openings are guarded and rigged to explode. I say flood the tunnels with water and fill them with sharks with frikkin laser beams on their heads. |
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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1002858]I didnt know about the tunnels. I would imagine that, after they were found, the SK openings are guarded and rigged to explode.
I say flood the tunnels with water and fill them with sharks with frikkin laser beams on their heads.[/quote] The 4 that have been found were obviously made not usable, I know one was turned into a tourist attraction. |
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Don't know that it is true (didn't look into it too deeply) but it is said that there are over 2Million landmines in the DMZ. The DMZ is 4km wide along the whole Demarcation Line. That's a helluva lot of landmines!!!
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Ok, new fodder for the conspiracy theorist in me.
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-nkorea-could-launch-nuclear-missile-183109878--politics.html]Pentagon: NKorea could launch nuclear missile[/url] So, we are supposed to believe, that one line out of a whole document was "accidentally" declassified, right as NK has 2 confirmed (and rumored up to 5) midrange missiles prepped on the launch pad? All the while we've been told that they don't have the ability to launch nuclear warheads. My guess is the admin is trying to prep us for when launches a nuke into the pacific. I am finally starting to believe that the administration is ahead of this now, and it will de-escalate after the North launches their missiles (yes I think they will launch 2). It will of course present a whole new nightmare as the North is officially admitted as a nuclear power. Will the South want their own nukes? What about Japan, how will they feel living in the shadow of a NK with the ability to hit them with nuclear missiles? Will China reverse course and try to remove UN Sanctions claiming they are excessive now that NK is a member of the nuclear club. Further, what leverage does that give to Iran, or anyone else wanting entry into the nuclear club. Does it send the message that if you just keep pursuing them the world will grudgingly accept you once you get them (I would say that that is a given). Is a US preemptive strike on the NK nuclear facilities even in the realm of possibility to prevent NK from making more weapons? |
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Am I the only one that just realized the UN Secretary General is a South Korean?
I don't know what that means, but I assume that it means North Korea is unlikely to respect any UN resolutions. |
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[IMG]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/561213_10151403496864150_2072923672_n.jpg[/IMG]
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North Korea really does hate Japan (rightly so if you go back to the 1940's)
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/12/north-korea-reportedly-warns-japan-to-be-first-target-over-order-to-destroy/]North Korea reportedly warns Japan it would target Tokyo first | Fox News[/url] |
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Seriously, NK is one broke country. From [URL="http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2013/04/12/heres-how-lousy-life-is-in-north-korea"]US News[/URL]:
[QUOTE]– Annual GDP per capita is about $1,800, which ranks 197th in the world, according to the CIA World Factbook. GDP is 28 times higher in the United States and 18 times higher in South Korea.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]– Most workers earn $2 to $3 per month in pay from the government. Some work on the side or sell goods in local markets, earning an extra $10 per month or so.[/QUOTE] honestly $3 a month? that's half a fast food meal, about a gallon of milk. I can't imagine living on that. At least it wouldn't be called living. There are other standout things, but it's just crazy poor. |
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[URL="http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nanking.htm"]Rape of Nanking[/URL]
Yes, the Japanese were rivals to Nazi Germany for international crimes but it is now ugly history. The current Japanese shouldn't be held responsible. |
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Here's an article from the [URL="http://www.rodong.rep.kp/InterEn/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2013-04-12-0019"]NK daily paper[/URL]:
[QUOTE]CPRK Secretariat Warns U.S., S. Korea Not to Make Misjudgment The Secretariat of the Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea (CPRK) released information bulletin No. 1029 on April 11. The puppet group of south Korea, taken aback by the toughest steps taken by the DPRK to defend its dignity and sovereignty, is letting loose absurd remarks, the bulletin said, and went on: Those concerned of the puppet regime including Chongwadae, experts and conservative media have remarked that the north will not provoke an all-out war even though it ratchets up threats. They are describing those steps as "brinkmanship tactics", saying that study into the inside of the north shows that the people are leading a peaceful life as usual. They are also calling those steps an "extreme psychological warfare" and "sort of propaganda". Our comment to their rhetoric about "psychological warfare" and "propaganda" is that they are free to think at their will but should not belatedly regret having done such a thing. Now south Koreans buy out food and daily necessities out of extreme war-phobia, making volumes of sale soar. Several countries are taking measures to provide shelter or evacuate their people residing in south Korea, and foreign students, businessmen and institutions are thrown into chaos, trying to find their way out of south Korea. The puppet group of south Korea is resorting to smear propaganda campaign to seek its comfort by forcing others into death like itself. The arrows indicating the merciless retaliatory strikes have already been drawn directing at the U.S. mainland, U.S. military bases in the Pacific and all other bases where the U.S. imperialist aggression forces station. The powerful strike means of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK have been put in their places and the coordinates of targets put into the warheads. Just pressing the button will be enough to turn the strongholds of the enemies into the sea of fire. However, the south Korean regime is talking about "psychological warfare" and "propaganda campaign". This is a despicable act which can be done only by imbeciles and fools unaware of what an all-out action declared by the DPRK is like and what consequences their acts will entail. As for their talk about peaceful activities in the north, it is the fixed will of the army and people of the DPRK to carry on production and construction till midnight today and have children taught at schools even though a war might break out tomorrow. The DPRK has won victories in confrontation with the U.S. in this spirit and is waging an all-out action with it, with confidence in final victory. The enemies should know that it is the era of the great Marshal Kim Jong Un, leader of the most powerful country and invincible great Paektusan nation. The U.S. and south Korean war maniacs are gravely mistaken and misjudged if they think they can have lucky chance. War can break out any moment and what remains to be done is merciless punishment of the enemies. Belated regret will be useless and not a single man will be able to survive to regret for his doing. Rodong Sinmun Copyright @ 2010-2013 by The Rodong Sinmun. All rights reserved. [/QUOTE] These guys are seriously delusional |
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Have you guys seen the you tube video of the annoying little fecker that gives the cowboy living statue the wet willy?
The annoying fecker is North Korea. |
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[quote=RedskinRat;1003196][URL="http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/nanking.htm"]Rape of Nanking[/URL]
Yes, the Japanese were rivals to Nazi Germany for international crimes but it is now ugly history. The current Japanese shouldn't be held responsible.[/quote]Agreed that Japan shouldn't be held accountable today, but they should have been in the 1940's. [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/18/opinion/the-crimes-of-unit-731.html"]Unit 731[/URL] [URL="http://teaching.cs.uml.edu/Rigas/GlobeSecretHistory/shenware.virtualave.net/his_unit731.shtml"] More disturbing details.[/URL] |
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And [URL="http://www.rodong.rep.kp/InterEn/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2013-04-13-0019"]today's daily NK newspaper rant[/URL]:
(I guess I post these as a reminder that this is what Millions of NK citizens and soldiers are being told on a daily basis. I know it's not much of a focus here in the US overall, but this story or a version of it, has been the front page of the NK paper every day for about 3-4 weeks. Imagine if our media was filling us with such propaganda (written better and for a more educated public) we would be calling for action. In NK I have to believe that a large portion of the public, who we don't see or hear from are fully ready for either a US invasion, or a NK preemptive attack.) So without further ado: Your 5 o'clock Charlie editorial [quote]Plot for Confrontation The south Korean puppets, stricken with terror by the increased strength of the DPRK and its toughest offensive, are persisting in smear campaigns. Recently they intruded into internet homepages of the DPRK and posted on them articles malignantly slandering the DPRK's dignity. They even stole the list of netizens and opened it to the public. An international hackers group claims the hacking as its doing, but it is evident to everybody that the south Korean puppets including the intelligence service stretched out their tentacles into it. There are lots of grounds for the assertion. A statement published by the hackers group provides evidence of it and the alleged hacker used both English and Korean. The problem is not only the despicable plot-breeding, but the puppets' much ado about the illegally announced list of netizens. Now they are engaged in another round of racket for "eliminating forces following the north". They are seeking to distract the attention of south Koreans from the north, divert the public opinion elsewhere and get rid of poor plight. Loudly crying that south Korean people of different strata are visiting the internet homepage of the north, they have launched a joint investigation to secure evidences of benefitting the enemy. The Saenuri Party too calls for taking advantage of the opportunity to "uproot those who follow the north". They are trying to fabricate "north wind" again, thereby revealing their miserable plight. They foolishly think that they can get something from such a smear campaign. But, however noisily they kick up a racket of eliminating forces following the north, the colonial puppets without their own thought and political principle can never check the aspiration of south Koreans for the DPRK. The south Korean puppets' racket of confrontation with the north is never tolerable. Their suppression of progressives only reveals their anti-national and fascist nature. Choe Hak Chol[/quote] [YT]OVs5J_dIk9k[/YT] |
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and this:
[QUOTE]Fools Ready to Kill Themselves The sea off south Korean Kangwon Province on April 9 was a scene of a large-scale joint shelling drill. The North was the imaginary target. Involved in the drill were "K-9" self-propelled guns, MLRS, anti-artillery radars, destroyers and other war tools such as "KF-16" and "F-15K". The drill was accompanied by loud advertisement of "serious warning against the dangerous provocation". This drill for a three-dimensional attack on the North was conducted during the Foal Eagle joint military exercise. This added fuel to the already tense situation in the Korean Peninsula. The most absurd UNSC "resolution of sanction" on us following our satellite launch and underground nuclear test had already brought the Korean situation to the brink of war. In the meantime U.S. war threats never cease. The U.S. B-52s, B-2As and F-22 stealth fighters kept flying into south Korea imposing threats on us. Even U.S. nuclear flat tops showed up in the waters off the Korean Peninsula. The U.S. military threat boosted the morale of the puppets. Almost every day they play war games. They cry out about "provocation from the North" but it is a sheer lie. By frantic war drills, the U.S. and its south Korean puppets drive a huge mushroom cloud to the Korean Peninsula. A nuclear war is imminent in Korea thanks to the war efforts of the U.S. and south Korean war maniacs. Therefore, it is natural for us to go out for an all-out action with the full mobilization of all war deterrence to shatter the war maneuvers of the enemies. Merciless will be our war of confrontation; it is a war to put an end to all attempts of war and aggression, a war to defend our sovereignty and supreme dignity and a war to achieve the national reunification. The south Korean puppets be aware that we always say what we mean, and they'd better not be so foolish as would kill themselves. Ra Sol Ha[/QUOTE] |
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For anyone keeping track, Kim Jong Un has not made a public appearance since his pistol shooting video on Apr 2nd.
I don't know that it means anything, but if he doesn't make some public appearance today (the 15th in Korea) that will spark a flurry of speculation about a possible coup in NK, and what that would mean for the region... (no links, no media speculation on that, just a simple thought) |
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Ok, K-Un showed up at midnight. Guess that means he's doing swell.
Their [URL="http://www.rodong.rep.kp/InterEn/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2013-04-15-0006"]newspaper continues the propaganda[/URL]: [QUOTE]CPRK Secretariat Issues Information Bulletin No. 1030 The Secretariat of the Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea (CPRK) issued information bulletin No. 1030 on April 12 as regards that the warmongers of the south Korean puppet military have laid out a "strategy for annihilating the north's army". According to the strategy, a computer test simulating an all-out war on the Korean Peninsula showed the annihilation of more than 100 000 troops of the south Korean army 10 days into the war. So the strategy was worked out envisaging destroying the north's armed forces with the massive missile strikes in advance. This strategy is said to be included in OPLAN 5015, a new war scenario against the DPRK. To this end, the puppet military warmongers are desperately moving to purchase cutting-edge war means from abroad, while crying out for possessing their own capabilities for striking all the parts of the north from the south along the Military Demarcation Line by introducing long-range air-to-ground missiles for the present. This is another serious war provocation plot aimed at a preemptive attack on the DPRK, the information bulletin said, and went on: The puppet group is fanning up a war fever with such strategy like a puppy unafraid of a tiger. This will only precipitate its destruction. The revolutionary Paektusan army which regards it as its priority mission to defend the leader, social system and the country, will mercilessly punish the puppet warmongers even before they make first movement. The "annihilation strategy" will never be able to see the light in face of the powerful blows from the DPRK. What we are concerned is the land of south Korea that can turn into ashes, innocent civilians who can suffer and their properties that can sustain damage due to the puppet warmongers' reckless war frenzy. We are now making preparations for giving celebration performance in the stronghold of the enemies after reducing it to ashes. The puppet group should not run wild, clearly seeing the merciless spirit of the army and people of the DPRK all out in the great war of justice for national reunification. Rodong Sinmun[/QUOTE] |
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I dont think they said puppet warmongers enough.
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[quote=Alvin Walton;1003338]I dont think they said puppet warmongers enough.[/quote]
LOL, that's true. I like reading it straight off their site, because the other media takes snippets of it. Reading their site is like reading a mad 3rd grader's tantrum. |
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Today's daily dose:
[QUOTE]Repercussions of Ultimatum Our Army men and the people express towering indignation against the south Korean gangsters. Kim Su Man, officer of the KPA, says: "When the whole world is in a festive mood greeting the Day of the Sun some gangsters held a really against the DPRK in the heart of Seoul in broad daylight and set on fire the portraits, the symbol of our supreme dignity. This is a mockery of our life and soul. Our People's Army will crush all those gangsters but those who masterminded them behind. Kim Ryong, petty officer of the KPA, says: “Their craziness has gone too far now. Our nuke strike will blow off Seoul in a second. A large panoramic picture at the war victory museum now under refurbishment will show what a deadly blow will be dealt with on those who dared to curse the Heaven." Ryu Tu Hyon, deputy chief engineer of the Sunchon Chemical Complex, says: "We work in the spirit of assisting the fighting soldiers in the front. When an order comes, we, too, will rush out to the front and send the sink of all sins to the hell of fire." Jang Chol Ryong, smelter of the Chollima Steel Complex, says: "We must kill a crazy dog with stick and burn traitors in a cauldron of boiling oil. Molten iron we draw out will be pouring down upon the heads of all those heinous traitors."[/QUOTE] This frightening :cheeky-sm picture ran with the story: [IMG]http://www.rodong.rep.kp/Contents/NewsEn/2013/04/17/photo/2013-04-17-02-01.jpg[/IMG] |
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