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Way to go on the Dixon deal. now we get to face him twice a yr. The FO better hope they were right.

And as far as the avatars for avg players go, well the proof is in the soup uh i mean pudding. :)

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If they are starting what would have been our 3rd/4th DT than their line is worse than I thought. That said, I thought he played well enough to be here, and I am sure that Vinny, Zorn, and Blache all were hoping he cleared waivers.

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People are really getting upset over Dixon? Really?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;585075]Way to go on the Dixon deal. now we get to face him twice a yr. The FO better hope they were right.

And as far as the avatars for avg players go, well the proof is in the soup uh i mean pudding. :)[/quote]

if nothing else, Campbell has has at least taken a snap in a real game as a professional football player. Can't say that about your Hawaiian Jesus.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585079]People are really getting upset over Dixon? Really?[/quote]

not saying he was a stud in the middle but i would keep him over some of the other guys we held on to. -wynn-

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[quote=Mattyk72;585079]People are really getting upset over Dixon? Really?[/quote]
He applied pressure up the middle every play. He was almost as big as Haynesworth. I think they thought they could put him on the practice squad. But it realy pisses me off.

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[quote=GMScud;585081]if nothing else, Campbell has has at least taken a snap in a real game as a professional football player. Can't say that about your Hawaiian Jesus.[/quote]

True, but at least they have 1 thing in common,neither has taken a snap in the playoffs.

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Not sure what the hype is about Dixon all of a sudden. Good story but still, an undrafted FA who didn't even start in college. Probably a career backup/journeyman at best. Just a numbers game at DT. You can't keep everyone.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585087]Not sure what the hype is about Dixon all of a sudden. Good story but still, an undrafted FA who didn't even start in college. Probably a career backup/journeyman at best. We'll see.[/quote]

We learned last yr you dont have to start in college to make an impact. Cassel-- but you are right, we'll see.
I didnt think he was a starter,just not a bad guy to have in the rotation.

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Where's the H.B. Blades avatar?

Keeping Wynn helps Jarmon, Orakpo, with veteran leadership study and work habits. This will pay off throughout the year. Also there is not a tremendous drop off in defending the run when he gets into the game.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585079]People are really getting upset over Dixon? Really?[/quote]

Many felt his preseason contributions warranted a spot on the roster, but by him being a DT they probably felt stacked at that position.

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I'm sad that we lost Dixon. He was a good player in preseason for us.

That said, anyone who is surprised that he was cut really is not paying attention. We have too many other DT's. He would have, at best, been on the practice squad all year long.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;585085]True, but at least they have 1 thing in common,neither has taken a snap in the playoffs.[/quote]They also have that in common with Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez....and Timmy Chang. Just thought I'd throw that out.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;585097]They also have that in common with Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez....and Timmy Chang. Just thought I'd throw that out.[/quote]

you guys do realize that Chang played 5 yrs to get the records he got and CB played 3 and caught most of them? just throwing that out there.
And i believe Cutler goes this yr, Sanchez maybe.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585087]Not sure what the hype is about Dixon all of a sudden. Good story but still, an undrafted FA who didn't even start in college. Probably a career backup/journeyman at best. Just a numbers game at DT. You can't keep everyone.[/quote]

He had a stretch of like 3 or 4 plays in a row where he was blowing things up -- I think it was the Baltimore game. He made a good impression for awhile.

In the end though, we just had too many DTs that could play. Like you said we can't keep everybody, and that's why I hope the roster restrictions are loosened once the new CBA takes effect.

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Former pats QB O'Connell traded from lions to the jets.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;585098][B]you guys do realize that Chang played 5 yrs to get the records he got and CB played 3 and caught most of them?[/B] just throwing that out there.
And i believe Cutler goes this yr, Sanchez maybe.[/quote]

That means absolutely nothing, unless you are Chang. That's like saying, "Do you know how many of Andre Ware's records that David Klingler broke?"

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Unconfirmed report by Mort. But we may be signing QB Andre Woodson

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;585098]you guys do realize that Chang played 5 yrs to get the records he got and CB played 3 and caught most of them? just throwing that out there.
And i believe Cutler goes this yr, Sanchez maybe.[/quote]

I remember Jason White lighting it up at Oklahoma, and Weurffel at Florida. And that was against Big 12 and SEC teams. Just throwing that out there. Colt is headed down their path. College stud, pro dud.

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[quote=GMScud;585128]I remember Jason White lighting it up at Oklahoma, and Weurffel at Florida. And that was against Big 12 and SEC teams. Just throwing that out there. Colt is headed down their path. College stud, pro dud.[/quote]

Exactly. And Steve McNair tore it up against Alcorn State opponents -- so nobody really knows.

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Chase Daniel and Cody Gelnn both GONE........

[url]http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora[/url]

Are we that deep..........??

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[quote=Bandwagon;585142]Chase Daniel and Cody Gelnn both GONE........

[url]http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora[/url]

Are we that deep..........??[/quote]

From PFT (which apparently for this type of news day actually does report news)
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/06/redskins-lose-trio-of-players-to-other-teams/]Redskins lose trio of players to other teams | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

quote of the article:
[quote]Maybe Washington's depth wasn't so bad after all[/quote]

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I'm not too pleased with the Skins giving up on Dixon and Chase. I'm scratching my head on Renaldo Wynn. What does he have, maybe one good year left on the bench? I would have kept the young defensive tackle Dixon with more promise. Please, oh please, don't let him become a pro bowler with Philly. That would really suck. The Redskins are taking a big chance going with only two quarterbacks. I'm surprised that the Skins thought Chase would be available for their practice squad. There are a lot of teams that need quarterbacks and the Redskins are one.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;585145]I'm not too pleased with the Skins giving up on Dixon and Chase. I'm scratching my head on Renaldo Wynn. What does he have, maybe one good year left on the bench? I would have kept the young defensive tackle Dixon with more promise. Please, oh please, don't let him become a pro bowler with Philly.[/quote]

A touch dramatic, I mean he had good moments- I liked him, but in the end he was simply camp fodder that made a chance for himself. If he were to get to the ProBowl you would have to say congrats. I mean this isn't an Antonio Pierce or Ryan Clark who we had trained, developed and didn't want to pay. We have a solid rotation and, from the FO/Coaching perspective, he wasn't ready for that yet.

[quote]That would really suck. The Redskins are taking a big chance going with only two quarterbacks. I'm surprised that the Skins thought Chase would be available for their practice squad. There are a lot of teams that need quarterbacks and the Redskins are one.[/quote]
I actually like this outcome the best. The chance of getting to the third qb on game day is really slim and ARE is there for that emergency. This really gave us flexibility for additional players at other spots.

Pretty dang excited for the season to begin.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;585145]I'm not too pleased with the Skins giving up on Dixon and Chase. I'm scratching my head on Renaldo Wynn. What does he have, maybe one good year left on the bench? I would have kept the young defensive tackle Dixon with more promise. Please, oh please, don't let him become a pro bowler with Philly. That would really suck. The Redskins are taking a big chance going with only two quarterbacks. I'm surprised that the Skins thought Chase would be available for their practice squad. There are a lot of teams that need quarterbacks and the Redskins are one.[/quote]

I definitely agree about Dixon, I thought he outplayed Montgomery and I think we let a future starter walk to an Eagle team that scouts very well and has an eye for talent. That said there's a reason why Dixon wasn't drafted this year. According to RI we got Andre Woodson, who I think has potential similar to JC, but it might take a few years for him to develope into a starter. I'm still pissed we cut Bridges and kept Batsiste but I trust that Buges knows what he's doing.

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Deleted my post...starting a thread about the offensive line.

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So, whats the deal with Woodson? Is he any good? Can we trust him to at least close out a game if needed?

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Woodson is a scout team body. He will run the scout team this week. Since he is on the practice squad he is not technically the 3rd qb, and so he would not be called on to closeout a game. If he were called upon, it would be as second string to Collins because JC was hurt the week before. And in that case, I would think we would go out and get another veteran or call Chase from New Orleans PS before we actually used Woodson. But that's just my opinion

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so why hasn't aldrige or dorsey been signed with us yet??

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Looks like the 49ers are looking at Tony Pashos...

[url=http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090906/SPORTS/909069972/1013/SPORTS0301?Title=49ers-looking-to-land-Pashos]49ers looking to land Pashos | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Santa Rosa, CA[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;585247]Looks like the 49ers are looking at Tony Pashos...

[URL="http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090906/SPORTS/909069972/1013/SPORTS0301?Title=49ers-looking-to-land-Pashos"]49ers looking to land Pashos | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Santa Rosa, CA[/URL][/quote]

Their situation isn't much different in terms of 2009. They (the 49er's) have a LT they're very comfortable with and at the same time they like the guy playing RT so basically he would end up being a backup there to. Of course without Mr. Top 5 Crabtree in the mix I'd imagine the 49ers would have a little bit more cash floating around.

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I'm hearing Crabtree's deal is probably going to get signed in the next week. If it doesn't, and I'm San Francisco, I'd pull some money back if not the entire deal.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;585254]Their situation isn't much different in terms of 2009. They (the 49er's) have a LT they're very comfortable with and at the same time they like the guy playing RT so basically he would end up being a backup there to. Of course without Mr. Top 5 Crabtree in the mix I'd imagine the 49ers would have a little bit more cash floating around.[/quote]
I think their RT went down with injury, so he will start.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;585145]I'm not too pleased with the Skins giving up on Dixon and Chase. [B]I'm scratching my head on Renaldo Wynn. What does he have, maybe one good year left on the bench? I would have kept the young defensive tackle Dixon with more promise.[/B] Please, oh please, don't let him become a pro bowler with Philly. That would really suck. The Redskins are taking a big chance going with only two quarterbacks. I'm surprised that the Skins thought Chase would be available for their practice squad. There are a lot of teams that need quarterbacks and the Redskins are one.[/quote]

We already have many defensive tackles. And Wynn can play end, which in my understanding Dixon cannot. So the Wynn/Dixon comparison is a little apples to oranges.

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Been away for the weekend, so didn't really have a chance to chime in on all the threads but I'll just give my thoughts here

[B]Quarterback[/B]

Just a few months ago, the team seemed to be really trying to push JC out the door. Now, whether intentionally or not, they've fully committed to him this year by basically leaving Todd Collins as the only backup. The Skins really kept whatever injury issues Colt had a good secret this summer. I joked the other day about the Redskins putting Colt on IR, but didn't expect it to happen. I forget what the policy is on practicing with the team while on IR, but while some think this is for Colt and the Skins, I think Zorn (correctly) has given up on him. We'll see though if after this year, the Redskins have given up on Zorn. Interesting that Chase went to the Saints since so many compare him to Brees (and I equate him to Brunell). Obviously, I would have liked to have seen Chase make the roster, but there were other more pressing needs. And releasing him was the right risk to take. As for Andre Woodson, he has huge potential (but you know what they say about potential), but I don't think he's any sort of threat really to #17 (or no #15). And I've never thought of Woodson as a WCO QB. This is Campbell's year to prove he's our franchise QB for the next decade

[B]Offensive Line[/B]

Thrilled to see Edwin Williams make the final roster. Not so thrilled to see them cut Bridges. I admire their decision to go with youth. But don't go young just to go young. And it's not like Bridges is ancient. He's a versatile veteran that could have really helped. I think we made a mistake in keeping Williams and letting Bridges go. I know Buges has said he really likes Batiste and he sees him every day in practice so I guess I'll take his word for it. Montgomery is lining himself up to anchor the middle of our line when we let Rabach go next spring. Overall, I am both somewhat concerned and cautiously optimistic about our OL. I'm glad our backups are young guys that we can develop (for the most part), but concerned about their lack of experience. But everyone starts inexperienced anyway. Pretty surprised not a single OL was signed to the practice squad.

[B]
Running Backs[/B]

Happy for Marcus Mason. He's our #2 back of the future. Betts better watch his back. And as Matt Moseley pointed out the other day, it gives the Redskins a nice change of pace from Portis...when Portis is in, Campbell doesn't have to run scared because he's got a pass blocking back in the game :)...I thought (cap issues aside) the Redskins wouldn't keep Betts, Mason, and Betts. I thought, and was hoping, one of those wouldn't make it and they would find room for Dorsey or Alridge (true change of pace backs). I'm glad we've seemingly identified our future #2 back but wish I could say that I see Mason as a future #1 back. Don't see it though.

[B]Defensive Line[/B]

Dixon played his guts out, but I can't believe how many people are getting worked up over letting him go. We have the best four-five man rotation we've had in years at DT and we're getting upset about Dixon? Not surprised. Wynn making the final roster was a bit of a head scratchier, but I know that the Redskins don't feel Jarmon is quite ready to be the full time back up to Daniels (especially against the run). Wouldn't be surprised if Wynn is on the active roster the first several games of the season and then slips into oblivion as Jarmon gets more comfortable.

[B]Defensive Backs[/B]

Byron Westbrook? Why???

[B]Linebackers[/B]

I was most concerned about this unit going into training camp...and now I'm even more concerned than I was six weeks ago. I think they're taking way too many gambles here. The two strongside backers are converted DEs with no NFL experience at LB (even though I think Orakpo will be phenomenal), the backup (to the backup) MLB is another rookie, the starting WLB has knee issues and no backup. And I sort of understand not keeping Fincher because you felt he had reached his ceiling. But I don't get why you keep a guy like Williams (a 2002 1st round bust) to add depth to your O-Line, but you can't do the same with Robert Thomas (another 2002 1st round bust), especially when Thomas can contribute on special teams (something Williams won't do), and if not Thomas then why not Glenn? I think they could have and should have found some place on the roster for him. I suspect Glenn and Westbrook were among the final cuts and Westbrook won out for a variety of reasons, none of which are encouraging. What bugs me most about Glenn getting cut, and it's not that I think he's some sort of savior is that that's a pick we could have used on someone like Ringer or Jennings. Guys who I think could have been our #1 backs of the future.

Overall, I'm very pleased with our starters across the board, have mild concerns about our OL depth, and am really worried about our linebacker depth.

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[quote=SmootSmack;585467]Dixon played his guts out...[/quote]

"And he's super smart. I think it's just one a those deals where..."

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[quote=70Chip;585468]"And he's super smart. I think it's just one a those deals where..."[/quote]

...you have a guy who came in here and worked his tail off. I can tell you one thing, this guy's a Redskin."

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Mason is the man! our only fire plug with heart! and he can catch??

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Just got back from the long holiday and been reading about the cuts and everything...Knee jerk reactions are:

1. Mason deserves a chance and this is good news

2. Who the f8ck is backing up are starters at LB? Fincher, Thomas, Glenn all gone...wow

3. In the preseason games, it was a steady rotation of plays where Clark would get beat, then the next play M. Williams would get beat, then E. Williams would get beat the following and then the rotation would start over again. Clark is gone thank god, but Im realllllllllly lost now...M. Williams SUCKED this preseason...he cannot be defended...he sucked. E. Williams didnt really impress...this feeling of our depth at O-Line is better than last season is completely gone

4. This whole deal of the 3rd quarterback battle has been completely overblown and waaaaaaaay too much too has been spent discussing it. The only reason is people were foolish enough to think Colt was a better QB than JC and wanted a change or JC too fail. Colt is what Colt is, a 3rd string Quarterback.

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wow, i completly agree with smootsmack, he and I have the exact same questions regarding the secondary, LB's, OL, and RB's. But smootsmack, tell me why we didn't sign either dorsey and/or aldrige to the PS? Are we even interested in Levi Jones? Rob Jackson IMO is better than Wynn. Do you think we bring in a veteran corner like mike mckenzie or patrick surtain and cut loose at least one or two of the crappy backup corners we got now (tryon, westbrook)?