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we have a legitimate chance to win three more games, we will beat oakland, and dallas at home, and we have a shot at the giants they don't look as solid as everyone thought. i doubt we will be in the top 5 we will most likely be 8 i hope we some how manage to get the 11th pick cause then we would have a better chance of trading down

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Here's another small school guy I like. Running back out of Buffalo. Missed this year with a shoulder injury which has dropped him from a potential 2nd round pick to possibly the 4th or 5th round. Could be a steal

[url=http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=170697]James Starks Stats, News, Photos - Buffalo Bulls - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/url]

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I expect guys like Suh and Eric Berry to be long gone by the time we pick. Even though they may become good pro's, I hope we don't trade up for Clausen or Bradford. I think the smartest thing we could do if we don't trade down for more picks, would be to take Okung with our first and someone like Trent Williams with our second if they're available when we pick. Take a RB and maybe a QB in the 4th and 5th. If we could put together a package to get another second, I would take Gerhart and then go LB, (Micah Johnson available in the 4th?) instead of RB in the 4th or 5th, but that would probably have to involve trading a player plus pick, or something from next years picks.

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[quote=53Fan;638335]I expect guys like Suh and Eric Berry to be long gone by the time we pick. Even though they may become good pro's, I hope we don't trade up for Clausen or Bradford. I think the smartest thing we could do if we don't trade down for more picks, would be to take Okung with our first and someone like Trent Williams with our second if they're available when we pick. Take a RB and maybe a QB in the 4th and 5th. If we could put together a package to get another second, I would take Gerhart and then go LB, (Micah Johnson available in the 4th?) instead of RB in the 4th or 5th, but that would probably have to involve trading a player plus pick, or something from next years picks.[/quote]

Can you please be our GM?

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[quote=Lotus;638338]Can you please be our GM?[/quote]

If he think's Trent Williams will be available in the second then he doesn't have my vote for GM.

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[quote=Lotus;638338]Can you please be our GM?[/quote]

Full control on personell decisions and we can talk.

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[quote=WaldSkins;638342]If he think's Trent Williams will be available in the second then he doesn't have my vote for GM.[/quote]

Did you think Orakpo would be available to us last year? :) I said IF he's available. If not, the highest ranked o-lineman that is valued that high. We'll see.

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[quote=53Fan;638344]Did you think Orakpo would be available to us last year? :) [/quote]

Yes :)

Actually Williams might slip, but I'd be surprised if he drops past the end of the first round

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[quote=SmootSmack;638363]Yes :)

Actually Williams might slip, but I'd be surprised if he drops past the end of the first round[/quote]

Not fair Smoot, you have inside info.

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[quote=53Fan;638364]Not fair Smoot, you have inside info.[/quote]

Only so much. Thinking Orakpo would slip was a total guess. (though I guess other inside info may have helped). Still...only so much. I wish I knew who our next coach will be

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[quote=SmootSmack;638367]Only so much. Thinking Orakpo would slip was a total guess. (though I guess other inside info may have helped). Still...only so much.[B] I wish I knew who our next coach will be[/B][/quote]

And spoil all the gut-wrenching intrigue through the offseason? I think we'd all feel better if we just knew. When you think of the way the offense is coming along, and will JC be here etc. It really could affect the next few years dramatically.

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[quote=53Fan;638344]Did you think Orakpo would be available to us last year? :) I said IF he's available. If not, the highest ranked o-lineman that is valued that high. We'll see.[/quote]

I thought if we didn't trade up for Sanchez that we would choose between Oher and Orakpo. I usually have a pretty good idea of where players will fall in the 1st round especially if the Skins are involved. Now what the Skins do in the later rounds im as lost as everyone else.

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[quote=WaldSkins;638374]I thought if we didn't trade up for Sanchez that we would choose between Oher and Orakpo. I usually have a pretty good idea of where players will fall in the 1st round especially if the Skins are involved. [B]Now what the Skins do in the later rounds im as lost as everyone else[/B].[/quote]

Nostradamus on his BEST day couldn't predict that. Maybe we'll draft a SS, and a TE? :silly:

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[quote=53Fan;638379]Nostradamus on his BEST day couldn't predict that. Maybe we'll draft a SS, and a TE? :silly:[/quote]

Im sure we will take our chances on some late round LBs who dont make the team

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[quote=SmootSmack;638327]Here's another small school guy I like. Running back out of Buffalo. Missed this year with a shoulder injury which has dropped him from a potential 2nd round pick to possibly the 4th or 5th round. Could be a steal

[url=http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=170697]James Starks Stats, News, Photos - Buffalo Bulls - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/url]

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he is listed at 6-2 211 seems like an odd size for a nfl running back, is he like a hybrid speed/power guy?

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[quote=WaldSkins;638397]Im sure we will take our chances on some late round LBs who dont make the team[/quote]

i'd say thats a pretty safe bet right there

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Looking at the first round lineman, I'd say that we'd either draft Russel Okong up high or trade down and pick up Charles Brown the OT from USC. I think Shannahans biggest requirement for lineman is that they're athletic and agile. The 3 in between Okong and Brown seem more like maulers. The trade down for Charles Brown would probably be best because they could either

A. use the pick to draft another lineman or

B. trade up in the second round to select Colt McCoy if Shannahan and Allen desire to do so.

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[quote=FRPLG;591072]Unless he can play both ways and is a stellar OT then I ain't buying this. We need an OT and OG that can start out of the draft next year.[/quote] Yes we need O lineman but if a great player is sitting at 6th pick in this draft we need to get him. No matter who we get in this draft we are two or maybe three drafts away from being a good team. I think the Giants game showed us all that and more.

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Looks like we're sitting at the 6th pick currently. Of course that could change. Like was mentioned before, we're at least a couple years away from being competitive again.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;644384]Looking at the first round lineman, I'd say that we'd either draft Russel Okong up high or trade down and pick up Charles Brown the OT from USC. I think Shannahans biggest requirement for lineman is that they're athletic and agile. The 3 in between Okong and Brown seem more like maulers. The trade down for Charles Brown would probably be best because they could either

A. use the pick to draft another lineman or

B. trade up in the second round to select Colt McCoy if Shannahan and Allen desire to do so.[/quote]

I'll take option B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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anthony davis from rutgers declared himself for the draft he is a 6'6" 320lb-er, if we trade down he could be a good late first round pick up or early second rounder

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4765128]Anthony Davis of Rutgers Scarlet Knights entering NFL draft - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;644928]anthony davis from rutgers declared himself for the draft he is a 6'6" 320lb-er, if we trade down he could be a good late first round pick up or early second rounder

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4765128]Anthony Davis of Rutgers Scarlet Knights entering NFL draft - ESPN[/url][/quote]

The more that come out, the better. More chances for us.

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1st Russell Okung, T OKST
2nd Maurkice Pouncey, Center, FLA
...or, trade back and get

mid 1st Anthony Davis, T RUT
late 1st Cody, Spikes, or Iupati.
2nd Pouncey, C

Basically, the biggest, baddest dudes available.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;637629]If we don't reach then we need to trade down. any pick other then OL would be ridiculous. I guess, I could modify that if a stud, along Orakpo's situation, fell to us, and we wheeled and dealed and got several OL in the later rounds.[B]But we normally are on the losing end of wheeling and dealing so if we reach we reach.[/B] 2010 is the year to right the OL.[/quote]

That's been the case because of Vinny. We now have Allen, and most likely Shanahan coming in. I think they'll be better at making wheels and deals than Snyderatto. I know Snyder will still be involved and they won't be as good at dealing as Bellichick, but i think in terms of trades and draft deals we'll be on the upswing.

I could see us making some crafty moves this coming draft.

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[quote=53Fan;644940]The more that come out, the better. More chances for us.[/quote]

What could the Skins get for their first round pick? I'm all for trading down and trading Cooley. The more picks, the better!

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Because of what's likely to be a new HC in Shanahan and with Allen as our GM, I could see them working to acquire a few extra picks, notably an extra 1st (or moving for 3 2nd rders like '08) and getting our 3rd rd pick back.

I see our draft looking like this:
(~20th pick)Davis RT, Rutgers
(mid 2nd rd) Brown LT, USC
(mid 2nd rd) Bradford
4th rd: Hudson C, FSU
5th rd: Brown RB, OK U
6th rd:Angerer LB, Iowa
7th rd: Cromartie-Smith FS, UTEP

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[quote=franklinhimself;645006]Because of what's likely to be a new HC in Shanahan and with Allen as our GM, I could see them working to acquire a few extra picks, notably an extra 1st (or moving for 3 2nd rders like '08) and getting our 3rd rd pick back.

I see our draft looking like this:
(~20th pick)Davis RT, Rutgers
(mid 2nd rd) Brown LT, USC
(mid 2nd rd) Bradford
4th rd: Hudson C, FSU
5th rd: Brown RB, OK U
6th rd:Angerer LB, Iowa
7th rd: Cromartie-Smith FS, UTEP[/quote]

so u already know that Bradford AND both Charles Brown and Davis will be late first early second round picks cause I think they're all mid 1st rounders

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[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;644967]1st Russell Okung, T OKST
2nd Maurkice Pouncey, Center, FLA
...or, trade back and get

mid 1st Anthony Davis, T RUT
late 1st Cody, Spikes, or Iupati.
2nd Pouncey, C

[B]Basically, the biggest, baddest dudes available[/B].[/quote]

You should change that to the smallest, baddest dudes available. If Shannahan comes here then small, athletic, O-Lineman are going to be on the menu. Particularly guys under 300 pounds. So if you were going to draft early then Okong would likely be your pick, or if you trade back then you would probably get a guy like Charles Brown from USC. Bruce Campbell also seems like he could fit the mold though if we do go that route I would hope we'd get a caliber of talent on par with Jared Gaither rather then Stephon Heyer.

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i really don't care who comes to Washington, as long as they can block somebody. i don't ever want the skins to lose. but if there was ever a time for the line to play as bad as they did, it was right in front of our new G.M. you know what they say, timing is everything

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[quote=CultBrennan59;645010]so u already know that Bradford AND both Charles Brown and Davis will be late first early second round picks cause I think they're all mid 1st rounders[/quote]

I think its very unlikely all three of those guys go in the 1st round. But your opinion is just as likely as mine. Regardless- you'd be pretty happy if that scenario happened for us right?

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Dream Draft Pick of the 2014 Draft

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if he is our 2014 pick i want this kid for our 2024 draft

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I like Anthony Davis, but he might be too much of a project. Either way, any O-Line would be nice. I wish we could get a silly deal like the Eagles got a couple years ago when they traded their first pick for the panthers second, and next years 1st. how come we never pull magic like that?

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[quote=franklinhimself;645132]I think its very unlikely all three of those guys go in the 1st round. But your opinion is just as likely as mine. Regardless- you'd be pretty happy if that scenario happened for us right?[/quote]

Keep in mind a lot is going to change between now and the actual draft. Guys that are 3rd round picks right now could easily become 1st round picks after their pro days.

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To the person who mentioned that Shanahan likes smaller O-linemen, that is a great point. If Shanahan does end up coming to DC, then it would seem that speedy linemen who can pull and can run a spread offense where the running back does more lateral running would be the best option going forward

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[quote=rbanerjee23;645657]To the person who mentioned that Shanahan likes smaller O-linemen, that is a great point. If Shanahan does end up coming to DC, then it would seem that speedy linemen who can pull and can run a spread offense where the running back does more lateral running would be the best option going forward[/quote]

True. And the good news is that the o-line needs an overhaul anyway. Maybe Shanny, unlike Vinny, will fix the o-line.

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It looks like we will be in the 5-9 range in the draft hope we can trade down or pick the best OL

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why trade down? I say trade back into the first round, and trade down in the second. We need more talent on this team.

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What if nobody wants to trade up AND Okung is gone when we pick around the number 5-7 slot? Do you guys still want us to select a OL if we have to reach or would you rather have us select a Franchise QB in Clausen or Bradford?

Keep in mind that the Chiefs, Bucs, Lions, and Rams are the teams that will be picking in front of us.

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There was actually an interesting thread on ES today (I know I couldn't believe it myself) that showed that out of 50 lineman on the last 10 Super Bowl winners only 7 of them were selected in the first round and most of the 7 weren't exactly world beaters. The main point it brought up though was stocking the line after the first round and how it's prudent to draft 2 or 3 guys every draft, which given Bruce Allen's track record and our current situation a no brainer.

Anyway that was probably Vinny's downfall, it wasn't that he wasn't selecting offensive lineman in the first round, it was the fact that he wasn't selecting more then one, if any, after it.

I think now given how the offense has hit rock bottom and Shannahan's development of Cutler as a rookie (88 QB rating) I think it's safe to say that I want Sam Bradford as our first pick, after which I would like to see a splurge on offensive lineman, even if we find a few good ones during free agency.

One of the more interesting questions posed in the thread went as follows:

[quote]would you rather have:

ryan clady, joe thomas, jake long

or

phillip rivers, ben roethlisburger, aaron rodgers[/quote]

So long as we properly evaluate and develop a QB we select I'll be all for it. Keep in mind there were a lot of people in Atlanta that wanted the Falcons to draft Glen Dorsey and were extremely disappointed when Matt Ryan got picked. Looking back it was obviously the right move.

It would also seem very possible that Joe Gibbbs and Sam Bradford have met.

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